On Change
HOST
JC Streets, fire away.
CALLER 1
Yo, can you hear me?
HOST
Yeah, I hear you.
CALLER 1
Okay, perfect. Thanks for doing the space. You've spoken on this before. A little bit, but I kind of want to pose it again.
There's, there's been a lot of friends and people in my life that I guess I've had a difficult time walking away from or putting distance between because, you know, it's like you can't, you can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved, if you know what I'm saying. It's not, it's not your responsibility. And you've kind of talked about just like letting people degen and then being there to like, I guess give them a helping hand when they come back. So I guess kind of like my question is, is like, like how, how do you get over that, that urge to kind of constantly, you know, be advocating or for somebody's betterment when they really don't give a shit?
HOST
Yeah, it's a good question. So, I mean, I operate under the premise, first of all, I'm a, I'm a non interventionist, I'm a very live and let live motherfucker. So I don't, I don't believe in intervening in what people are doing, even people that I care about and love. Because I think it's extremely arrogant for a lot of us to try to rob people of the lessons to learn.
I'll give you an example, an extreme one. I thought about this over and over again and this is going to make sense to probably few people. But I think it's true. If I knew for a fact that my boy was being cheated on by his girl, I wouldn't tell him.
And I'll tell you why. Trying to feed information and rob somebody of the path that they're on, somebody who's being cheated on and doesn't, and doesn't ascertain, that has very, has a very up intuition, right? I feel like if you're a pretty well adjusted person, you're gonna, you're gonna know if that's happening. And so I, I live by a policy that I let people crash and burn.
And if someone wants to crash and burn and they genuinely want that, I will encourage it. I'll help them crash and burn faster. Because like I said, who the am I to come play God and intervene and, and eject and be that deus ex machina and insert myself into somebody else's story and fucking extricate them from a situation that I know they need to go through? Because the only way you can learn is through pain and suffering.
That's just a fact. And this kind of. It's a good question because it circles back to my original point. How is it that people get over pain and suffering over a long period of time?
The only thing that removes people's pain is by changing the way they look at the situation. Nothing actually changed. If you were cheated on, if your heart was shattered, if your heart was broken by a woman, why is it? It's because you changed the way you looked at the situation.
Nothing actually physically changed. And so you have to understand that method, like people, especially when it comes to women, After a certain period of time, you're able to kind of see the monster that was underneath. This is why I'm. Saying a lot of people, the person that they currently are, but they.
They hope that maybe one day that person's going to become the person they want them to be. And I think that's a very destructive place to be in. Because if you can peel back those layers and you can figure out who people are and see them for who they are now, it makes it very easy to take stock of your relationships. So I have a very.
Live and let live, you know what I mean? I. I live and let die, man. I.
I just. I've never seen, ever. I've never given someone an alley oop or a nugget of wisdom while they were going through something that actually saved their life. They had to crash and burn and go through it on their own.
So I'm just. I believe in non intervention, I think, is the best policy, man.
CALLER 4
That's real.
CALLER 1
That's real. Thank you, man.
HOST
Yeah, of course. Drew, what up, man? Drew, you're on. Hey, what's up, brood?
I just wanted to say thank you,
CALLER 2
man, for everything you've been putting out lately.
HOST
My question regarding this kind of topic
CALLER 2
was, in your own personal experience, did you.
HOST
Do you think you experienced more change when you kind of had just one big change, maybe that being your perspective,
CALLER 2
or was it kind of you seeing
HOST
a lot of stuff that you didn't like and you had a bunch of little increment changes along the way? I see things differently than most people. You know, it's. It's even hard for me to have friends.
It's hard for me to have friendships. I see things in a very different light than most people because I've seen what you can do when you really bootstrap yourself to a mission and you have conviction and you're unwilling to compromise and you're unwilling to Put your morals and principles aside to get done. I've just seen unbelievable ferocity in my. That you can't train every day.
You can't train to max. You're gonna hurt yourself. You're gonna become weak after a while. All of that's because I attack it from a different mentality, place.
And so once you do what's considered the impossible and you've proven it over and over again to yourself, nobody can take that away from you. It's like nobody could have convinced me of anything that I know in life now. That's the. That's the.
That's the ironic part. There's not a. Not even God could have came down from a cloud and convinced me of jack shit. I've had to go through every thing that I have to arrive to this conclusion, and now it can't be taken from me even in my last gasp of breath on this planet.
No one can take away what I know because I fought for it, I had to earn it, and I had to dig really, really deep and go to some very dark places in my own consciousness in order to see things in a different. Pretty little lies. And most people are telling themselves and selling themselves pretty little lies on a daily basis to keep themselves comfortable. I'm a guy where I love to get my reality shattered.
I don't give a if it happens every day and I have to pivot and I have to make new changes. I am very quick to implement. When I come across new information or new truth, I can completely blitzkrieg an entirely new path. I'm not married to who I was yesterday.
I am not associated with pretty much any idea. I'm extremely open to interpretation. So I have a very artful perspective towards life and language and the way that I interpret things. It's all up for grabs at any.
At any given time. That was a good question.
CALLER 4
Yeah.
CALLER 2
Thanks again, man. Appreciate it.
HOST
George. What up, Doc? Yo, what's up, man? Can you hear me?
Yeah, man. I feel like I share your perspective as far as going crazy with, like, physical fitness. Like, I've been working out twice, four hours a day, maxing. And the only thing I'm wondering is,
CALLER 1
like, that's kind of what I've taken
HOST
away from you, like, really imposing your
CALLER 1
will on a physical level.
HOST
But I'm just wondering about, like, your opinion about how you crack the money game. Like, how do you approach making money? I mean, that's a good question. It's one of the few questions that you see.
This is. This is like a tough One, I feel like this question is you. It's really difficult to ask another man how they make money, or even the question that's kind of the subtext of that of, like, how do you become successful? I think that's one of those questions that every single individual man has to answer for themselves.
I have a very, very aggressive approach to everything in my life. I live life very aggressively, and I think people confuse aggression with anger. It's not really coming from an angry place. I just.
I've been able to bend so many obstacles in my life over long periods of time that I know that's just the baseline for me, man, is to attack. I'm just always on attack mode. I. I really, really see very few situations in life where retreating is the correct answer.
Even if I'm gonna get obliterated, I'm just that guy. I got a high pain threshold. I don't mind the fight. In fact, I love it.
I just love being embroiled in the fight, man. And that's just what it is for me. And that's why, I mean, as far as, like, how my approach to make money personally is, I have a very, very powerful team that I have invested that I have built over the course of 10 years. Basically, I'm on God mode when it comes to sports betting.
I can pretty much bet whatever I want on a weekly basis, and I have very powerful investors behind me who will cover my action. And I have a team of quants and autistic dudes who basically crunch data. And I have my own proprietary method and proprietary system for knowing what picks to take. So I just follow my own system.
I created it out of dudes behind me who cover my actions. So, I mean, I'm betting six figures a day, every single day. If you saw my betting numbers, it would make your head spin. I'm talking millions and millions and millions of dollars of action that I've had over the last 10 years.
So I. I have a very desensitized view on a lot of things because my circuits, my dopamine circuits are completely frayed. And that's just something that I've had that I've come to terms with. You know what I mean?
I'm not interested in living a normal life. I'm interested in pushing the edges and seeing how far I can take my consciousness and how far I can push myself in this life. And that's just pretty much what it is. And I.
I fully embrace the fact that this may come to a very tragic end for me. One day. And I accept that. And I'm not afraid of it because I choose to live my life at the edge.
You know what I mean? I have done things that are so unbelievably irrational. I could have retired in my mid-20s. Man.
I went on a run. I went on a God run that is probably a once in a multi generation run in sports betting. And I had enough money to just walk away from everything and I torched every penny of it. And it was a learning lesson.
I had to go through it for whatever reason, and I don't regret it. So I guess I'm just trying to tell you that I understand. I'm on a very heroic mission. I'm here to build a massive thing.
And if I die or I injure myself or I lose my mind in the process, I'm okay with that. Because my dedication levels ain't ever coming down. I'm. I'm in too deep, you know what I mean?
There's like a certain point in life where you go so hard that you basically cross the Rubicon and there's really no way to turn back because my baseline now is so high. Dude, I've lived a very luxurious life. I've done some real cool that probably 0.01% of the population will experience. Like, it has been an absolute journey.
And I created it. So I take credit for my mindset because I, I didn't grow up a very particularly, you know what I mean? I, I, when I was a kid and I, and I looked at me compared to my classmates, I wasn't really that much different. You know what I mean?
Like, I, I never, I never really had a clear edge. That's why. That's why. Yeah, I do have some genetic gifts for sure, but I look back on my life and I'm like, I wasn't particularly smarter than anybody.
I didn't stand out. I just cultivated and culminated this different mindset than most people. And that's when you can really start making more progress, is when you just start to see the world from a completely different lens. And you can only see that when you're in hell.
That's kind of the catch 22 of it, you know what I mean? Like, I, in order to see things differently, let me get into sports betting with you. I'll give you all my money. Where do you live?
Yo, yo, I'm dead serious.
CALLER 1
I'll work out with you and I'll
HOST
show you how crazy I am. I literally work out until I'm exhausted. You can apply the same mentality towards making money. You can DM me, brother.
I'll do that. Chris, what's up, dog? Think I'm on my own, bro. Hey, man, yo, I hear you.
Well, you kind of answered this a
CALLER 1
little bit just now and in your answer to the previous.
HOST
But I'd love to get you to double down sort of on this philosophy
CALLER 1
of outrunning yourself, right? And I think obviously modern society, Everybody's talking about 401k, save your money, stack
HOST
up for retirement, etc. Etc.
CALLER 1
And as humans, because of evolving, risk averse, because it's a survival mechanism, right?
HOST
So I'd love to hear you talk a little bit more about how you actively rewired, like your brain to just
CALLER 1
throw risk to the wind and what it's like to, you know, outrun yourself and be okay with whatever, wherever the chips may fall.
HOST
I'll tell you the biggest reason why I came to that conclusion was that when I was super poor, I've had money and I've been poor and I've gone bust several times, right? I've had, I've gone to zero more times than any than any grown man should. And one thing I've noticed is that when I'm. When I'm.
When I was dirt broke and I had money, nothing, nothing really changed. I got just as much women, I had just as much access to social circles, just really, there was no actual, like, there wasn't really any consequences to it, which is kind of strange. It was like I was able to just navigate the world and do. Because eventually it's just a numbers game.
You paint enough shots, you're gonna hit one big lick. And so that was just my basic, my basic baseline was that when I would go bust, I mean, dude, I'm still jacked. I'm six 1, 200 pounds. I'm a big dude, I'm in phenomenal shape.
I can talk, I can hold the conversation. Like, I'm still, I still have tools and money. Never. The interesting thing about money is when I had money, if anything, it was much more challenging for me to function in the world because it's so hard not to slack when you come into some immediate success, especially when you're sports betting because you could be broke one day and the next day you could have 4 million.
I mean, that's just how it works. And so when I would have these big stacks of cash and I was living a large life, you know, I found myself kind of very distracted, no mission, kind of lackadaisical. And I think that's why I always kind of taunted and went back to the gambling gods and kept playing for high stakes because I kind of liked being in that constant chaos because it kept me very sharp and it kept me on my heels. Does that make sense?
Yeah, but absolutely.
CALLER 1
Sorry about the noise about the gym, but that's.
HOST
That's a great answer.
CALLER 1
Thank you.
HOST
Of course. Keep this rolling. You guys got good momentum. Count.
What's up, doc?
CALLER 3
Hi, Good evening, bro. I'm from the Philippines, by the way, so thank you for the opportunity to ask questions. So. So right now I'm.
I'm unemployed, so I'm really having a hard time making money and not really winning. But I am just applying everything I learned online. So my sex life is doing fine. My life overall is.
I just follow everything that you guys say here that just train every day. Train every day. So I box, I weightlift, I improve my physique. Is that really winning when you're not winning in the side of money?
Can I really consider that progress or. I have no idea what's happening in my life right now, to be honest. I just work on myself daily.
HOST
Okay, I appreciate that. The furor. What's up, man? Fury, you're on.
CALLER 1
Hello.
CALLER 3
Am I audible?
HOST
Yes.
CALLER 3
Okay, Brute. My question is that there's a folly with human nature that, you know, every human knows. What are his ad habits? He knows what he has to give up in order to survive and in order to succeed.
And he knows what habits he has to pick up. But only few are able to, you know, do what their inner guiding light tells them to do. Majority ignore it. For say, if there is a fat man, he knows he has to become fit in order to gain confidence, but he is not able to do that.
He knows a way out of it. He knows he has to change and there is a path to follow, but he doesn't follow it. So there is a guilt which comes with it. So how to come out of this vicious cycle,
HOST
Vicious cycle of falling back into the patterns that you know are not serving you or
CALLER 3
actually, a man knows that he's. He has some bad habits and there are ways out of it. He knows that those bad habits can be thrown out if he constant consistently working on them for, say, just one or two months. There are, you know, free guides out there.
You can take any example, we'll say porn, masturbation. Yeah, but he doesn't do that. And you know, there's guilt following it. So how to come out of that vicious cycle?
HOST
So here's how I See that? I see that most people, most men in general, they use defenselessness and helplessness as a strategy to garner sympathy and pity from other people. So what I mean by that is you'll get a guy who's obese or a guy who knows he's in a really situation and he doesn't, he doesn't want to rise above those circumstances because he actually uses defenselessness and helplessness as a strategy of survival. Because he thinks if he stays in this lowly, corrupted, decrepit state that people won't trample on him, people aren't going to with him.
If he surrenders and he shows the world that he's a pussy and that he's a little bitch, that people will just kind of pass by him and leave him alone. Essentially what it is, it's a very, very fucked up protection mechanism. Whereas a guy who decides to rise above his circumstances knows he's going to have to flash some fangs and some claws. He knows he's going to have to become aggressive.
He knows he's going to have to show weapons and show demons and establish himself, make a mark for himself in the world. And that's gonna piss people off, right? Even when it comes to personal missions, an obese guy who's trying to become super fit is gonna piss people off because there's going to be days where he hates his situation and he's going to be a his. He's gonna have to completely rupture the entire fabric of his life and people will take, people will get hit with the radioactive shrapnel of that.
It's just, it's just an alter effect of making any kind of radical change in your life. People are going to get hurt inadvertently on your path and sprint not to be trounced on by others. So their whole existence is being subservient and being less than because they're hoping that people will just leave them the alone. They don't like the fight, they don't like conflict.
They're very conflict averse and you have to really enjoy conflict. You have to be a sicko to make any real change, right? You have to be a sick in your head because you have to really enjoy and find happiness in the days that you're a lot of really successful people from unsuccessful people. Is that what's very interesting about the concept of happiness is that I find that most men are actually happy when there's some low element of suffering in the background.
Like there has to be some existential pain that you bootstrap the Happiness onto. It's not just this chocolates and. And bunnies and. And like, baskets of fruit.
Like, that's more of a feminine approach of happiness meant in chaos. And I've recognized that in my own life, the days that I'm most happy and genuinely experience joy are the days when I'm struggling and I'm at least putting up a fight. And I'm. I'm searching for answers.
You know what I mean? I'm not sitting on my hands in my living room hoping that the answers are going to come. I'm a seeker. I'm out there trying to figure out.
And it's easy to be happy when that's your perspective. That was a good question. I'm gonna take another. The dons.
What's up, man? The dons. You're up. What's good, my man?
How you doing? What's good, brother? I really wanted to ask a quick question. And I mean, I feel like a lot of society is feeling anxiety, feeling fear on a daily basis, especially men nowadays.
A lot of us are raised by our mothers. And I mean, people don't really know how to take that leap. What do you think the best advice is for someone with anxiety or depression or just to really, for me, step into a new realm? Is it to just change the perspective or do something radical?
No. So that's a good question. So I have this personal theory that I've been kind of working with is that I. I think the type of anxiety you're talking about is a modern phenomenon.
I don't. I genuinely don't think anxiety, the. The modern conception of it, of that feeling of crawling out of your skin where you have mental fog. I don't think that existed not too long ago.
I think that what. Anxiety was probably more confused with despair in history. And what I mean is I. I fully believe in my own life, whenever I've experienced great anxiety on a magnitude that was unbearable, I think it's a gut issue.
I legitimately believe that when the gut is pierced and the gut has permeability in it, and you have leaky gut, you. There's a severance of connection between your brain and your. And your gut. And that's what creates that feeling of helplessness.
Like there's. You're. You've lost this. That pipeline.
So there's no communication in the body. There's no unity. There's been a. There's been a break.
And I've seen enough people talk to me about their anxiety to figure out that I think it's A physiological issue. I don't think that's something you can work through mentally. I think that's something that has to be changed on a physical level. Because when I was.
Dude, when I was hammering 10 cups of coffee a day, which I was a major coffee abuser, I would experience that flighty feeling of just completely crawling out of my skin. And I really enjoyed the warfare of it. I enjoyed fighting myself, just using all my faculties and trying to funnel it into this channel where I was like, I can't believe this little drug is getting the best of me. And it would get the best of me every time, and I would just get excruciating anxiety.
So I think, yeah, like, there's, there's restlessness, there's varying degrees. There's a gradient here. But I think anxiety, in the way that you're describing it is 100 a gut issue. And I've talked a lot about gut health and, and how, you know, having a repaired gut lining allows your brain and your body to communicate with one another so that your thoughts are more crystal clear.
Like, there's, there's not much evidence as to what I'm saying, but anecdotal evidence literally wins every time. And that's just something I've noticed. So it's food for thought. Appreciate it.
Appreciate it for sure. Yo, light bulb. It. You think about guys who have to build schedules out for themselves.
Because I know you're not a huge, huge fan of scheduling, from what it sounds like, at least from following you for a little while now. Where do you think the balance lies between a man scheduling himself into, like, his own sort of domestication versus kind of keeping that wild side to him? Yeah, I think so. I have talked about this.
So, yeah, I mean, I have them. Much more diagnosis. Extremely uninhibited, unrestricted. I like, I, I don't write down.
I've never, I don't, I can't even schedule a meeting with somebody, so I'm on the complete extreme end of that. But, man, I, I, it literally makes me cringe right now, trying to even picture myself scheduling. I don't, I almost need. I don't, I don't like to schedule things out really, more than a day, honestly.
I like to. I like to build my plan for the day in the morning and then just execute that. Just, Just hammer it out. But where do you ever find that, like, there's guys who they, they chase freedom, and when they're building their companies, they end up just compartmentalizing themselves into it, into.
CALLER 1
That.
HOST
You're in and you have to be kind of like a technical guy during the day. I understand that. But I do think by the time your, your day's over, I think that's when the barbaric nature has to be released. That's why I say like every man needs to, needs to focus on building an alter ego.
Because the alter ego is the person who saves your ass at the end of the day, right? Like my, my Twitter brute to force. That's basically my alter ego, right? I'm speaking, I'm speaking through a lens when I'm fucking brute to force.
Like it's almost a character to a degree. And what I mean by that is like my personal life is somewhat very removed from my Twitter life. You know what I mean? Like, I have a, I have a gigantic life, dude.
I have a lot of responsibility. I got a family, I got a lot of on my plate that I've, that I've taken on. But I use this outlet and I use night time as an outlet to just be wild, dude. And that's when I think people, aspects of yourself, when you're off the clock or you're, you're done scheduling for your day, that's when it's time to kick it into fifth gear and start really putting yourself out there into the, into the world and taking shots and taking risks and getting involved in a little bit of trouble.
I think low level trouble situations that you're in where you have to figure out a way out. I think like that is just extremely healthy and rounds out your corners. It's like most people, if they're an accountant during the day, they're just. Their whole identity is in their profession.
And like my identity is not rooted in anything. I can become whatever the, like I could be, I could play lawyer, I could play account, I could play doctor during the day if I have to. And by night time, I mean I literally, literally, dude, I can be whatever hat I want to wear at any particular time. I'm very, very amorphous.
And kind of amiiboid when any, any kind of lifestyle. I'm not really married to any kind of profession. Like nothing. And so, and so I think that guys that do live a technical life and have to show up during the day and be a certain guy once that, once that day is done, I think that mask has to be taken off and then it's time to unleash.
And I think that's why most people feel that despair and anxiety is because they don't. They're the same They're. Their identity is the same 24 hours a day, so they're fucking bored. It's boring being John the accountant 365 days a year.
That's just a fact. Like, at some point you have to. You have to build an alter ego, a guy who's willing to try different things. Yeah, because John the Accountant is only an accountant because he needs the.
Exactly. Right. Yeah. He becomes a prostitute to his profession.
And that's what you don't want to do. You don't ever want to prostitute yourself to your own profession. Good question. Hey, forged path, let's hear from you.
CALLER 1
Yo, so going back to your main topic on this, this whole space you said, how you impose this kind of analogy on, you know, this mental condition of, you know, with squatting and being in the prison, like, in the prison with your family next door and getting them out and whatnot. I want to see, like. I also see a lot of people talking about manifestation on Twitter. Like, you kind of opposing to that.
That ideology. Right. So where do you draw the line of, like, manifesting and actually, like, almost like brainwashing? Because I feel like in the bigger picture, they're very similar things.
Right. But I want to see where you draw the line of, like, what you just said with that analogy and where you're, like, manifesting in, like, a corny way, you know?
HOST
Of course. Yeah. I mean, dude, I have the very, like, Roman approach to this. Like, I have a very physical.
I'm very much ingrained and down to earth in the physical realm. Right. Like, I, I really believe that true spirituality and true manifestation comes through sculpting the physical. It comes through releasing energy here.
It's like, I, I don't like the metaphysical arguments on a lot of different things because I'm like, just please don't give me your metaphysical. In a physical world, like, there are clear laws and clear things in nature that we have to obey. And I pretty much obey the animal before I obey anything else. Like, I am in touch with the animal side of myself, more.
More than I am in touch with God, if that makes sense. Because that beastial nature has propelled me to levels in life that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to achieve if I had just, you know, given my life away. To think I have this sort of ideal that you have to stir. You have to put dents and craters in your environment.
You have to actually, like, be pushing and, and. And changing the. The environment that you live in, if that makes sense. You have to put pressure on It.
Yeah, I put a lot of external pressure. Like, I dissipate a lot of my energy out there. Like, if I give people opportunities to make money, I'm very. I'm constantly integrating and bringing the people into me, like, into the stage of action.
Like right at the Gunpowder.
CALLER 1
Yeah, because you know what I mean? Like. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta apply that action, that force, you know, And I think that's really kind of an idea you kind of incorporate in a lot of your work and what you have to say.
Like, there's a difference between journaling and writing down, oh, I'm gonna, like, gain this muscle or lose this weight. But then you gotta actually go out and, like, do the. You know, it's. You're almost just wasting time writing shit down.
And, like, you know, you're filling your head with this, like, garden of thoughts and goals and ideas you want to get done. But, like, there's another side of it where you actually have to go out and put in the work to actually get those results. Like, otherwise, if you're not. You're just basically, you know, you're going to end up going insane because you've got this whole dead garden and shit that you're not getting done.
HOST
I couldn't agree. I couldn't agree more. And honestly, man, if you're not obsessed with a goal and you have to write a goal down, that goal is just not really important to you. That's just the way I see it.
If. If a goal is actually important to you, it's going to be on your mind 24 7. You can't erase that from my mind when I want something, you can. You can give me every antidepressant essence SRI on planet Earth.
You're still not going to get in the way between me and the goal, because I can't. I cannot get it off my mind. I can't sleep until it's accomplished. Why the would you have to write something down when you're genuinely inspired by a goal that you have?
And so I think a lot of people have these fake goals because they want this big laundry list of to do. And none of those goals are actually important to them. So of course they're not going to do anything impressive. No, you're not gonna come.
It's to remind you to go do something. It's not important to you. It ain't. It ain't.
You're not gonna get impressive results. I just know that for a fact nothing impressive is going to come of that.
CALLER 1
Yeah, absolutely. It's. It's like it's just an all or nothing approach. Like if it's, if you're really serious about the goal, you've got to give it your all and like have that obsession with it towards it and otherwise just like disable it entirely.
Like don't, don't even like think about it, dude.
HOST
You're giving your all.
CALLER 1
Otherwise, you know, there's the middle ground too where when you're just writing it down and, and just kind of playing with the idea, like you're just kind of like fantasizing over it. That's just, that's just gonna. Cause. Cause stagnance if you're not actually acting on it in the real world, right.
HOST
100 dude, you're better off doing nothing than taking a half hearted approach at anything. That's my opinion. I would rather sit still and not do jack than give something a half attempt. If I'm gonna try something or I want to achieve something, I'm going all the in and I'm gonna sacrifice every piece and every resource at my disposal to get it done.
Otherwise I'm just gonna sit still and just relax.
CALLER 1
I love that. Thank you so much. Very helpful for sure.
HOST
Damien, what's up baby? Damien, I got you on. All right, moving right along. Nico, what's up man?
CALLER 1
What's up brother? Can you hear me?
HOST
Yep.
CALLER 1
I wanted to ask you what would be their. Your best advice on taking action and overcoming taking action. For example, if you're cold calling, you're afraid to.
HOST
Can you amplify that question for me?
CALLER 1
Well, like, for example, if not a lot of people are social these days, right? From what, from my experience, if you were starting a cold call business or a. Anything like that, where you had to, it was sales and you'd had to call people they necessarily don't know, right. And you were to talk to them, but you're, you're just afraid to.
You know what I mean? Like you got a shaky voice. And just in general, it's just hard to talk and put words together.
HOST
Yeah man. I mean, I mean that's, that's just a, that's a function of time. I mean sometimes you just gotta put the reps in and fail and embarrass yourself and humiliate yourself over and over again before you get good at something. And I think that's putting yourself in situations where you could potentially be humiliated is ultimately how you make the correction.
Like you're not going to get better at anything. Holding it in and trying to rehearse and be perfect in the mirror. You know what I mean? You actually have to go out there and take a few beatings before you can make that correction.
So I think humiliation is actually a really good tool that we can use to sort of improve our behavior in general. Because, you know, if you're stumbling over your words and you're mumbling and you can't get your point across, there's a. There's a very natural sort of rebound from that where you're kind of forced to improve on the spot, and you can only get that through experiencing it. You know what I mean?
Like, you can't. Like I said, you can go rehearse for days at a time and try to get the perfect pitch, but until you actually run it and you're.
CALLER 1
It's.
HOST
It's the final show. It's the final showing. I mean, before you get to that point, it's all hearsay. Know what I mean?
You got to actually put that into to the test.
CALLER 1
Right?
HOST
Right.
CALLER 1
It's all about experience and just how many times you fail over. You're going to keep getting better either way.
CALLER 2
Right?
HOST
Talking to people. Yeah, but I mean, you have to be willing to be embarrassed a couple times at first. I mean, that's just how it is. Like, especially.
You can. You can apply that to anything.
CALLER 2
All right.
CALLER 1
I appreciate it.
HOST
Of course. Alex, what's up, man?
CALLER 2
Yo, Brute, circle back on what you said a little bit ago about. On that. And how do you. How do you go about demanding more of what you want out of an environment that is totally not your speed at all?
And how do you, like, even with the people in that environment as well? Like, how do you. How do you force them to mold them into what you want out of life?
HOST
It's a good question. Yeah. I mean, dude, Covid really hit Covet hit me hard, too, just because I had a perfect setup. I had a fly.
Nightlife was perfect. My routine has been super up since all these shutdowns. And so, I mean, that's kind of why I came to Twitter in the first place, is I never would have even had an account unless Covet hit. So I.
Dude, I kind of went to the online world. I mean, I built a community of my own. I have my own discord that I run with. With dudes in there.
And I dude. I mean, I connect with a lot of the people in my own community. Like, I'm on the phone multiple times a day with guys, as I've had dudes fly out to come meet me. And so I mean, I'm pretty connected to my ecosystem that I, that I built.
But for the other question, as far as putting pressure, like, dude, I give a lot of people around me opportunities to work with me. So I'm constantly presenting opportunities to, for people to make money. I throw things at people. I get.
I give a lot of people opportunities to show me what they're made of. And I put a lot of pressure and expectation on that because I'm willing to do the same. If I'm in a spot or if I'm in a situation where I'm needed, I'm willing to sacrifice everything I have. You know what I mean?
CALLER 2
So you're saying, like, you constantly are stirring the pot and inviting others to jump in and give them that opportunity. Sink or swim type deal.
HOST
Constantly. Constantly giving people the opportunity to get involved in the action, to. To create something. Like, I'm just constantly putting it out there and then once I'm involved, the way with it, even with myself, you know what I mean?
Like, I've. I've been in deals with people where I've completely destroyed my self in the process and my bankroll. But that's just, that's just the kind of leader that I am. I'm willing to lead from the front and absorb most of the damage so that I can be a better leader for my crew.
I mean, that's just how I am for sure. I don't, I don't. I don't expect other to do anything that I'm not willing to do. So if I, if I get someone to gamble with me, bro, you best believe all my money's in the pot too.
Going up. You're going up, right?
CALLER 2
And also like, how you're saying, like, our lives have kind of shifted a little bit digital. Like, how would you, you know, hopefully when this kind of kind of transitions back into real life, how would you. How would you transfer that. Those digital connections and, and just like, like that transfer you made, how would you kind of pull that back into the real world as we shift?
HOST
Man, it's a great question. I was talking to my boy about this the other day. I'm. I'm actually trying to figure that out.
I'm trying to figure out how I can take my community and actually crystallize it in the real world because I, I seriously think the Internet is pretty gay.
CALLER 2
I agree.
HOST
I, I really don't read my TL too much anymore. I, I think Twitter has actually gotten so gay, it's almost unbearable for me at this point.
CALLER 2
Yeah,
HOST
you know, I come on here every once in a while to tweet or whatever, but, like, dude, I'm pretty immersed in the real world right now, bro. Like, I. I spend. I'm trying to figure out this optimal setup to maybe where I can have like a big crew of successful dudes around me where we all have each other's backs.
And basically it's like a real world scenario where we all meet up, lock down some spots. Like, I'm trying to take this thing to the real world, bottom line.
CALLER 2
Yeah.
HOST
Yeah. I'm not trying to consolidate online. I don't really give a. About my account too much.
I don't give a. If I. If I was banned from Twitter right now, I wouldn't give a. I'm.
I'm literally on twitter. For some weird reason. It just feels like a civic duty to just continue to post on Twitter because I just. I just want to give back the.
That I've learned in my life. But I'm not here to make money. I really don't give a. About my course sales, as you can see.
Like, I don't ever self promote. I don't show products. Like, I'm just here to have a good time. And I do it because I genuinely enjoy it.
I don't have to do it. I'm in the power. I'm in the power seat of my life, bro. I can walk away from this right now and never look back.
But I just. I host these spaces and I get involved with the community because I genuinely enjoy giving back to the young dudes because I know how tough times are right now. A lot of people are struggling and up.
CALLER 1
Yeah.
CALLER 2
And it's like, it's like for the. For the people who have, like, kind of garnered, like, I. I mean, not everybody. I feel like, you know, you might be a special case, but not everybody, you know, can bring that into the real world.
And it's almost like they're in some sense, they're.
CALLER 3
They feel.
CALLER 2
They feel like responsibly tethered to online because they don't want to abandon all the friendships they made, you know, but you still got to get back to real life. Like, this isn't real in a sense, you know?
HOST
No, it's not metaverse. It's not. Dude. It's actually gay as.
And like, hey, versus so gay. I always say if you're just DMing people all day on Twitter, like, those aren't your friends.
CALLER 2
Yeah.
HOST
Like, eventually you have to meet these people in real life. You know what I mean? Like, Me and me and absolutely me. An absolute freak.
Like, he's one of my best friends. I kick it with him all the time. In person, we've done it. We've made a bunch of money together.
We've done a ton of. And it's like that. That started online and moved into the real world, and now that's a homie for life. So it's like, I think more people need to start doing like that.
Yeah.
CALLER 2
And for those that, you know, can't meet up with whoever they befriend on here, like, is it just a matter of bringing that same, like, voracious intent, like, to the real world? And it's like, hey, either with me or you're not.
HOST
100 words.
CALLER 2
Appreciate you, brother.
HOST
For sure, man. Let's get on Gavin and a couple more. Gavin, what's up, baby?
CALLER 4
Yo, what's up, D? So not intervening with somebody when they're on their down. And I have this little brother. He's 19 now.
He's in college. He's with this girl who he's been with for, like, I said, two, three years. And he came to. To me and he.
He was like, I don't know what to do. I want to focus on myself and. And my progress. He's in college playing soccer, and he said, I want to break up with her, but I don't know if I should because I'm not sure I'll find another one like her.
And I'm trying to give him the perspective of, like, abundance. Dude, go after your goals, but no matter what you choose, you just have to make a choice, because either way, you'll learn and. And you grow. But what perspective.
Say he was your younger brother. Would you give him so that he. He knows that it's okay to. To take risks?
HOST
Yeah, man. I mean, dude, I kind of operate from the. I operate from the fundamental premise that all roads lead to Rome. It really doesn't matter what path you take, you're gonna get to Rome eventually.
And it's like, yeah, there's gonna be some twisted, warped, and heartbreak along the way. And I think that a situation like that, I think the best thing that can happen to him, especially at 19, is to just get his heart ravaged. Dude, he's gonna have to learn the super hard way. Because ultimately, dude, being a man, one of the biggest responsibilities we have as men is.
Is growing more callous. Is growing callous to the things that affected us and got under our skin when we were younger. And the only way to gain those, to get hurt and once you get hurt, you kind of. You kind of have past experience to call upon.
You know what I mean? Like, you go through, you go through several heartbreaks and then the fifth one just ain't so bad because you have, you have something you can grapple with. You have past experience. You know, you got through it before.
And it's like you just, you need, you need that accumulation of experience to really look back upon. That's why I really implore this adventurous risk lifestyle. Because the more pain and hardship you go through, the more you've seen, the more you're able to grasp what's really going on in the situation, the more you're able to see things more clearly because you've been there before. If you haven't been there before, it's a nightmare to deal with.
CALLER 4
Yeah.
HOST
So, so Ra. I think rather than focusing on just trying to maybe get him to behave differently, you kind of have to let him sink or swim type deal. But I will tell you this. I think it's also true love.
If you really love somebody, why would you ever want to steal that lesson from them? It's just selfish. It's not. People confuse that with loyalty or.
No, I love him, so I want to protect him, but that's actually kind of setting him back, if that makes sense.
CALLER 2
Yeah.
HOST
It's different if somebody's coming to you and they genuinely want to make the change. If someone. But when it's unsolicited is what I'm talking about. When, when you give unsolicited advice, I think that never ends well.
CALLER 4
Yeah, I mean, he came to me and he said, like, he's just not happy with where he currently is and what, like, what's going on in his life. And I'm sure he's not giving me all the details. Details. But, you know, I, I tried.
It's okay to be going through the. And figuring it out, but just know that it's okay to make a choice and go all in.
HOST
I'm with that. Awesome.
CALLER 4
Thanks, man.
HOST
I'm with that. Yeah, for sure. My man Spartan. See what's up, baby?
Connected in the real world, you know, I think that's so important for all the young G's on here. Like me, right now, I'm in between jobs. I just tapped in, wanted to hear what you were saying. I own a real estate photography company.
We do about like 2500 shoots a year. I'm shooting like five, six listings a day. And it's just a constant grind, you know, but it's so worth it being out in the real world, connecting with. You got to get out there.
You got to get involved in your community. So important for development, for everything. Hustle, man. Hustle, man. 100, dude.
Internet money is hella cool. But like I said, bro, real world ain't ever going out of style. You. You're out there, man.
It's fulfilling. It really is fulfilling. It's a whole different game when you can look at someone in the eye and hold a conversation, bro. That is getting rarer and rarer.
Yeah. It's so important. I think everybody should do it. Like, you don't want to be online just DMing people scrolling your feed all day long, like you said, too.
I'm on here. I just post my. And I bounce. I barely check the timeline.
Same here, brother. And it's. It's honestly created a lot more of a baseline of mental health for me, dog. It's very mentally unhealthy to be online all day.
It just really is. There's so many. There's so many jobs that kids aren't willing to do nowadays, like require some hustle. Whether it's cleaning gutters, cleaning pools, pave.
Whatever it is, man. Just hustle, you know, Scale that up, make some real money and do your thing, man. Bang your man. This is what you do, you know, Take pride in it.
I big with that. Thanks, brother. I just wanted to say that anyways, I got a job to do, so. Peace, guys.
Yep. Take care. I'm gonna take one more, See what our board. Parker Nathan's at
CALLER 1
space.
CALLER 5
It's really fantastic. Yeah. So I'll tell you, I just got back from LA a few days ago. First Airbnb was in the Hollywood Hills.
I met a ton of people I know on Twitter in real life, you know, we lived that lifestyle, went to, like, those restaurants in Beverly Hills, the whole thing.
HOST
But I gotta tell you, man, coming
CALLER 5
back, it really puts into perspective. And I feel like the last few days, because I've had that, you know, it's like that injection of like an alternative life for a few days. And you go back from that, That responsibility of saying, hey, if you did get, you know, whatever 7K apartments, would that motivate you more? Or is it just a mindset thing and everything else is just sort of not that important?
Because I felt electric when I was with people in real life and we were on that Hollywood Hills house. So the question is, how would you go about importing that into your everyday life?
HOST
You mean trying to revive that same experience or Trying to revive that same feeling. Yeah, man, yeah.
CALLER 5
It's just, I mean it's a social community of meeting people in real life, like on Twitter. It's so great. But it's also just how do you get past that? It's like you go from the,
HOST
Or
CALLER 5
the whatever get that social responsibility of like, hey, if I get this very expensive place, is this going to push me harder or is this.
HOST
Just cope and I just need to
CALLER 5
focus more on what I'm doing right now.
HOST
So I'm wondering what you thought. No, I think, I think that's a no brainer. I'm big on the financial pressure aspect. I definitely think that if you want to, if you want a bigger life, you have to buy your way into it.
And I think that most people economically, when they get into a pinch, they retrench themselves and I don't think retrenchment is the appropriate response. I think that if you, I think that we need more pressure. So if you get into a lifestyle that's semi unaffordable for me that's always been effective because I've always risen to the occasion and found other ways to make money to sustain that. But if I, if I lay low and I, and I went lower end everything you kind of get into, you kind of capitulate and you get into bad habits.
But one perspective I do want to offer you and I think mercurial file. Everything that you need is right in front of you right now. Doesn't matter what city you live in, it doesn't matter if you're in a fucking shithole. There's access to so much in your local environment right now that nobody seems to capitalize on, which I think is very bizarre.
What I mean by that is most people are living in like buildings with like saunas, jacuzzis, gyms, like there's amenities and. Street. There's coffee shops that you've been driving by for years that you just, for whatever reason, you never walk in, walk into those places. And I think that we need to go hyper local.
We need to take advantage of all of the resources and places that are doing business directly in front of us. That's how you meet people, that's how you incorporate yourself into the community. Most people are sitting in their fucking buildings right now, they're sitting indoors and they're obsessed with this fantasy vision of what could be. But they don't realize all the fucking power that's literally at their fingertips right across the fucking street.
And nobody seems to want to take advantage of that. So that's what I do. Like, when I burrow into a new community or I have to go back to a situation that's not ideal, I immediately get involved in all of the. And all of the events that are popping within a one mile radius of me.
And I will take advantage of that to the fullest extent of my ability. And that is exactly how you revive that sense of community. And that electric feeling is you got to start taking advantage of every single thing that's at your disposal in your immediate environment.
CALLER 5
Yeah, that makes sense a lot, man.
HOST
Thank you. Of course. All right, guys, I'm going to shut this down, but it was a pleasure, and we'll talk again soon.