The fast life

00:00:02HOST

Yo, I, I can't even believe that this has to be addressed, but it does. What the is all this talk on the timeline about virgins, this obsession with chasing virgins like that, that to me seems like a psychic defense. It doesn't seem to me. I know for a fact it is.

Like dudes that are not getting any play have tricked themselves into thinking that they're holding out because they're searching for a virgin. Because you're the virgin. Because you're the virgin. So it's, it's a very strange mechanism going on here with this.

First of all, utopic thinking as a man is very feminine. Men don't think in terms of utopia. Men accept whatever landscape is brought forth in front of them right now. That's what men do.

And times have obviously changed. There's obviously a chasm between men and women. There's obviously a correction that has been accelerating. Anybody can see that.

Stevie Wonder can see that. So, like, this whole idea of chasing unicorns and holding out for a virgin is bizarre on many levels, and I'll tell you why. First of all, I've never seen any mega successful superstar, a billionaire, an athlete, anybody who has a ton of clout and a ton of power and status, never seen them once in my life complain about body counts. That's never happened.

The only people I've heard complain about body counts are people who get no. Secondly, if you've noticed, there is a very small pool of very beautiful women, especially on Instagram. Well, there's probably what, four or five hundred out there in circulation that are literally pining after the highest status men in the world. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but those women have a lot of experience.

Like, those women are sexually experienced, and the most beautiful women on Earth are sexually experienced. That's just how it is. It's just the current climate, it's the current landscape. And none of those successful megastars are.

Why aren't they, they have all the money and the power in the world. Why aren't they scanning and scouring the earth for virgins? You just, you don't see this. You don't see this practiced in reality anywhere.

Maybe in some country where there's like 300 people in a village, I get that. But in a capitalistic society where you have guns blazing, shots being fired left and right, high competition that don't exist, that's a countryside fantasy. That is a bucolic fantasy. And I mean, like, I can't just, like I'm saying I can't even believe this has to be addressed.

And then the other thing that has to be addressed is this notion that women are washed at the age of 25, which any Casanova Don Juan suave type who's had a lot of experience with women knows that's asinine too. Like, of course young girls are fun to. Sure, of course they are. But if you're like an older dude in your mid-30s or like early 30s, you will notice right away they're very fun to.

And they're fun to mold. They're fun to teach that those three things are true. However, the older chicks, like late 20s, even early 30s, are way more fun to chill with. With.

It's not, it's night and day. It's not even close. It's not even a competition. They are way more fun to actually hang out with.

Like if you want a partner in crime, like a chick who will literally be down for you and do anything you want her to do and rock with you and ride with you, build a business with you. Because I mean, I. Look, ultimately I think that's the only way you can have a rock solid long term relationship is if you're building something with your woman. It's that simple.

Like, if your woman is not involved in your projects and in any capacity, relationship's gonna 100 Peter out at some point. And what's. Well, here's what's even funnier. If you speak to older women, older women understand the game, especially older women now.

Like they. Older women, you can talk shop with them about right wing politics. Like they are very razor sharp. A lot of these older chicks, they genuinely are smarter than your average guy, which is unbelievable to me.

But it's true. And anybody who has experience in these domains knows what I'm saying is 100% fact. So I just found it interesting that I feel like guys are checking out of the game and they have this virgin fantasy because it's an excuse for not playing the game. Oh, these girls are, are not my type.

They have high body count. So I'm just, I'm just not going to get laid and I'm just going to. I'm just going to hold out for a virgin. That's what that is.

We all know it's a psychic defense. That's way off topic from how I want to start the show. But I kept seeing virgin talk on the timeline today and it makes me cringe. Sec.

Next topic. Michael Malice, the author and political commentator, he wrote a book on North Korea and the book is Pretty bad. It's not really a great book, but there was something in there that stuck out to me and when I, when I compare it against my own experience, it's very true. He said something to the effect that Kim Il Jong did not view time as a flat plane.

He viewed it as a cube, a cube that could be shrunk. In other words, time can be shrunken down. And yeah, it's, it's a big fucking metaphysical thing to tackle. But in my own life that really rings true for a number of reasons.

I've lived a very, very, very fast paced life since about 17 years old when I got fired from the last job that I ever worked, which if you know my history, I've said over and over again was the greatest day of my life. I could not fathom dragging my lumping body back into that office to make another telemarketing call. And when I got fired, I had this alleviation, I had this relief that I had been wanting my whole life that I was scared to take. And that was the, the idea that now I was a man on my own two feet and I am fully responsible for my decisions and I no longer have to be at anybody else's beck and call.

It's all up to me now. There's no plan B. I'm going to start a business and I'm going to give it my all. And I have no problem dying on that sword.

And I made that commitment since the age of 17. I have lived multiple thousands of lives since the age of 17, which is 18 years ago. The fortunes that I have made from living fast and outrunning time and also squandered are absolutely staggering, staggering numbers. I have lost money in a single 24 hour period that some people will never generate or earn in their entire life combined.

I have taken their life, the totality of it, and put it in a furnace as an offering to the gods for my mission and watched it be incinerated before my very eyes. I've done that on multiple, multiple, many, many, many multiple exponential expeditions. This is, this has occurred. I was a hunter.

When I quit my job, I became a hunter, a heat seeking missile roaming around town, dilly dallying around town. I had no clue what it was that I was really going to do. But I understood that if I showed up in the real world every day and showed up to the same establishments and made a name for myself and got acquainted with staff members, then I built a little bastion for myself, right? I had a little, a little alcove where when times were rough, I could walk into a coffee shop and I could always rely on a smile or the care and concern of just, just your average worker.

And it's, it's very important as a man to have a stronghold in the real world. It's easy to have a footprint online, but when you are established at an actual location and you have home turf, home court advantage is what I call it. You are really a force to be reckoned with after a certain point because you don't have to have a lot of money. You just have to take the money that you have and you have to be willing to spend it and develop that customer loyalty.

And then when you're in there every day, you got popping out of cupboards, you got people coming out from the back, shaking your hand, giving you fucking pats on the back. And then everyone's looking. Now all of a sudden you become a main character. All of a sudden you become a player because you're sitting in this establishment and people, the patrons are wondering who the is this guy?

Why is everybody saying hi? So that's, that's like instant status. Something very, very simple. If you're a young man, you don't have much going on.

You have to get some home turf, you know what I mean? Like a place where you can bring dates, a place where you can bring prospects, where you can close deals. I've said it a hundred times, I'll say it again. Doing handshake deals or even contracts on the back of cocktail napkins.

That shit's not going out of style, fellas. It's just not like there's a certain romance to that's just never gonna die out. And unfortunately, like those of you that grew up in the Internet age, you've sort of missed the eclipse. You've missed sort of that.

It's. It's a very electric feeling when you're in an establishment and you have taken really good care of the people in there. Let me explain it like this. If you are established at a certain spot, I don't care if it's a restaurant.

I don't even give a. If it's a rinky dink coffee shop. After a certain point, you feel like those are your people that you are serving and taking care of the roles. Flip.

I'm no longer there because I care about the service. I'm there because now those are my people. I enjoy tipping them. I enjoy shaking the busboy's hand because I know they get bombed on all day by bellicose patrons.

And so you sort of, you. You get in your own sort of service habitat where you're propagating and reinforcing this sort of divine energy. And it does come back in spades. The, the fast relations that I have made in those places are.

Are actually unbelievable. In the book that I'm writing, I have segments on the wily characters that I've run into in restaurants and, you know, jumping on jets with them. Two days later, massive investors investing in my gambling business. After meeting them for 30 minutes, I've just had a lot of serendipitous chance encounters.

Just roam, roving around the real world. Now, obviously, there's a presence that you have to have, which is why I always say if you're a young cat, you want to build an identity around performance. And for me, that was always the athlete. You know, Olympic lifting gives you a very unique build, gives you a very unique body structure.

When people look at you in real life, they can tell you're an athlete. Huge traps, huge glutes, huge legs, small waist, big shoulders, big forearms. Complete opposite of the bodybuilder, sort of Frankensteinian, where it just looks like every muscle group is just kind of glued together. You develop a very distinct look that people just kind of look at this guy like, yeah, this dude definitely looks like a athlete.

So that was like my. That drew a lot of attention for me in my early 20s because very few Olympic lifting wasn't even mainstream until CrossFit made it famous. So CrossFit comes on the scene, it makes Olympic lifting famous. Then you had a bunch of people jumping into Olympic lifting.

I was into Olympic lifting about three or four years before Cross. Crossfit went mainstream. So the physique that I was developing from that was just very. It was just very unique.

You didn't really see dudes with like massive traps and shoulders, big forearms and big legs. You saw the opposite dudes with huge biceps, huge pecs, not very developed backs. And. And I know, you know, I always lambast aesthetics and because I have every right to do so.

But obviously there is an important component to not really the aesthetics, but just the performance and the functionality. You know what I mean? Like, I was very, extremely athletic. I'm 6:1, but I could dunk a basketball when I was 22, just.

Just because I could snatch 300 pounds. So like my vertical increase. Just a lot. A lot of performance metrics I was able to hit because Olympic lifting carries over.

I'm also fast as can run a super fast sprint, and I'm not even a sprinter because I'm just practicing those fast twitch muscle explosive movements. So my point in telling you guys all this is that you have to understand how time is extremely, the experience of time is very different for different people. It's not, we don't all have the same 24 hours in a day. That's one of the greatest lies and mythological fallacies that's been promoted.

It's, it's, it's completely false. If you're a high status male. Let's take any NBA player, those guys, when they meet a woman, that woman is head over heels in love with that man in literally five minutes. In five minutes.

He doesn't even have to take her on a second date. She's in love, she's locked in, she ain't going anywhere. If he wants to make that his chick, she's in five minutes in. Meanwhile, the average guy, the average guy has to date a chick for a year to get serious.

Like literally date a chick for a year and break his fucking back making money and taking her on dates and shit. Traveling. Takes the average guy a year for a woman to really fucking be like all in committed. Takes a high status guy five minutes.

So who's warping time in that scenario? Who's, who's stepping into a wormhole and literally changing the fabric of reality? The high status guy. So time, you want to talk about time travel?

Time does 100 speed the up. The more power you have in the world. You can live many, many, many lifetimes in 24 hour periods. You know what I mean?

Like, I would go bust on a massive bet. I would rock up to a bar. Next thing I know, 20 minutes later, I'm sitting in a chick's hammock. Sitting in a woman's hammock, squeezing limes into my fucking sparkling water.

How did I get there? I have no fucking clue. But all I know is, is that time is not equal by any measure. You'll also notice something very interesting and that's that people who live very slow lives, people who build wealth very slowly, maybe they have just an ordinary job, maybe they're making 50k a year.

Whatever, they're stacking their, their money. They don't really have a risk appetite, they're not really adventurous. Their whole life is really just about comporting themselves for the comfort of death, right? Like they're concerned about growing old and not having resources and dying alone and not having money for health care.

Like that's, that's the majority of people. Majority of people. They're living their day to day to prepare for their inevitable death. And they're hoping that the day they die they can just die as comfortable as possible.

That's why they're amassing wealth. They're not amassing wealth because they want to amplify their business. They're not amassing wealth because they want to amplify their vision. They're amassing wealth for the inevitability of a health crisis.

That they can take care of themselves and, and die maybe not in as much pain. That's literally the average person. That's their unconscious mechanism at work. That's why they don't take risks.

It's why they're afraid to lose. It's why they're afraid of loss. It's why they're afraid, afraid, afraid, afraid. It's all a fear of death.

And it's all cloaked in a lot of these psychic defenses and very bizarre patterns and nervous ticks and quirks in order to prevent that from happening. Then you have the other flip side of the coin. The people who don't give a. The people who are not afraid of death.

The people who understand that you die every night you go to bed and you wake up with a new day. Guys like me, I am, I go to bed every day. And I have cycled through, I have journeyed through the entire pantheon of human emotion from morning to night. My rises and falls throughout the day are wicked.

I go from terror to euphoria to, to vacillating between absolute bellicose rage to, to mirth and light hearted laughter. Like that's the sliding scale of emotions that I feel on a daily basis is immense because of the way I choose to live my life, which is as a hunter, which is as somebody who does not have any fear of loss, which is somebody that does enjoy risk taking and does enjoy the thrill of the ride. Because I'll tell you something. Anytime I have ever lost a monumental amount of money that meant a lot to me or I lost a relationship that meant a lot to me.

It's amazing how you're able to pick yourself up the next day and just be grateful that the next day exists. It's. It's just, it's that simple. It's a very bizarre thing.

Like I could, I could lose 10 million bucks in a day and then somehow wake up the next day and I just love the game so much and I have so much conviction in myself that I just know I'm just gonna go get that back somehow. I don't know How, But I know I will because I'm just. I just don't quit. Quitters never win.

There was a very funny tongue in cheek post by Ben Westgate on Twitter. I'm sure a lot of you guys follow him. He's probably the second largest smoking advocate besides myself, and he's a funny guy, but he's also whip smart. And he had a tweet that was, like I said, it was tongue in cheek, but it had some parochial wisdom in it.

And someone had tweeted something about how someone was trying to defend quitting smoking in his comments, and they were like, yeah, my grandfather, he quit. He was a, you know, two pack a day smoker for 50 years, and he quit after like 50 years. And then he had emphysema and he died. And Westgate, quote, tweeted it and he's like, he only got.

He only got emphysema because he quit. If he would have kept smoking, he never would have gotten it. And then he said something to the effect of like, quitters never win. And that is like a very crude tweet.

But there's some raw wisdom in that. Quitters never win. Even when what you're doing does seem destructive, if you are industrious enough, you can sort of change the temporal portal of life and you can really sort of manipulate your reality and make things work even when they're not supposed to work. That's like the.

That's the magic tapestry of life right there. It's. It's alchemy. It's putting yourself in situations that seem unbearable, and it's alchemizing them into something beautiful, you know, like.

Like Rumpelstiltskin spinning weed into gold. That's what men do. Men take wheat and they turn it into gold, and they do it routinely. At least successful people do.

At least successful people do. So my life, even in the last two years, it feels like I've lived 200 of them. I would say in the last year particularly, it feels like I've lived 200 lives with the amount of money that's come through my hands, the investor relationships I've created, the hardships, the morass, the turmoil, the turbulence, the maelstroms. Like, I have been through it all.

I've cycled through the entire panoply of almost human experience. I've almost, like, groked it. It's like, been in my possession, even if it was for moments at a time. And I say this because here's what's interesting.

If you notice anybody who lives a very Fast life who's redlining all the time and really obsessed with sort of maximizing their human limits and potential. Because that's really, that's really what I'm about at the end of the day. I'm all about maximizing human potential and pushing back against what you're supposed to be on paper. Like if your genetics are garbage, there's a transcendental factor of the human experience that you are not taking into account, which is that the human spirit is able to transcend genetics, which I think is unbelievable.

And I think that should give everybody strength and hope every day that no matter what kind of hand you're dealt. And by the way, God deals relatively fair hands, like God deals fair hands. And what I mean by that is like you'll get a guy like Mike Tyson who's a pugilist who will knock your block off. But then God crafted his, his vocal cords to sound like a 13 year old virgin.

Like the guy literally sounds like a little girl when he talks. And it's like ironic. Like arguably one of the greatest boxers ever, at least power punchers. And the dude's got that kind of voice.

So like God levels the playing field. Like anybody who's industrious or any titan of industry has severe defects. And we all have an Achilles heel. Everybody has an Achilles heel.

Doesn't matter how great you are, it doesn't matter how stand above you are from the, from the common cloth. Like you have an Achilles heel. And it's, I think it's really important to reconcile what that is very early in life and figure out what your sort of, what your, what your blemish is. Because God factors it into everybody.

I mean, there's no such thing as a flawless creation. Not at least not in human form. And I think understanding and accepting that imperfection in every man is, is, is unbelievably empowering. Like understanding the imperfections in myself and then understanding that, hey, I never had to remove these imperfections.

I never actually had to spend any time making incisions in the personality traits that have held me back. All I had to do was focus on the, that I'm great at. And it overshadows all those imperfections. Like that's the pursuit of excellence and the pursuit of greatness.

That's what that, that's what that is. It's not about whitewashing your imperfections. It's about magnifying and making the things you're good at so good that you don't even notice the, the character defects that you Have. That's a very.

That's a very committed one dimensional approach which is masculine. It's just so that's like a masculine undertaking. Right there is maximizing one thing. Balance and harmony is much more of a feminine energy.

It just is. The masculine is extremely funneled and it's a concentration of energy down one galley. Like that's what the masculine energy is. It's a.

It's a concentration. It's a ray of energy that just absolutely obliterates whatever the. That talent is. That's your ray.

Balance. And yeah, women love all that stuff. Women love balance and harmony, but men don't typically. So I'm gonna open the floor here.

I want to sort of springboard off this. I. Yeah, you know what? I'm gonna leave that to the end.

Yo, Juan Blanco. What's up buddy? All right, guys, if I call you up here and you're not talking right away, I'm just gonna remove you. Mr.

Closer. What's happening, Mr. Closer? Third Time's a charm.

Yo, J.C. what's up, buddy?

00:26:33CALLER 5

So you talked about in the beginning

00:26:35CALLER 7

there, you know, the way to, I

00:26:38CALLER 5

guess to have a long term relationship is for the wife or your girl to be in on the mission with you, right? And the first thing I thought about there is, I guess a lot of people, a lot of guys like, okay,

00:26:47HOST

the mission is like the family.

00:26:48CALLER 5

Like we're going to have a family together. Do you think that's realistic or do you think it has to be something more like it has to be a business venture. It can't just be that simple.

00:26:56HOST

I'm curious, like what you're. No, dude, it's the opposite. The, the. The.

The family itself, that's the mission. It's going to rot within. Dude, there has to be something much broader in scope from my experience.

00:27:08CALLER 10

Right.

00:27:08CALLER 5

No, that's exactly what I thought when. And that's why I wanted to ask because first.

00:27:13HOST

So like if you refer back to my last spaces, I gave a very vivid illustration of what a very powerful mission a man's life looks like. And it's extremely conflicting. See here, here's. Here's the push pull between the masculine and the feminine.

Right? You got a guy who's completely hell bent on his mission, whatever the that is. I don't give a. If he's a painter, he's painting murals.

Could. Could literally be anything. See, that's what people don't understand too is like what makes a man attractive is simply his commitment to his mission. It really doesn't matter how grand that is in scale.

Like, not everybody has to be an alpha bad boy sharpshooter to have a woman absolutely madly in love with them. The guy just has to be focused on whatever the fuck he's doing. Literally. The guy could be fucking making necklaces from puka shells on the beach in Hawaii.

And if that dude is obsessed with that shit ten hours a day, I hucking that on the side of the road. I guarantee you that guy has a better chance of having a woman fall in love with him than any other dude who's.

00:28:11CALLER 10

Who's.

00:28:11HOST

Who's got his hands in like 30 other tills and can't commit to one thing. It's just. It's just they love a man who is just putting their craft over them. And that's the whole.

Dude, that's the whole balance. Like, a woman's job is to whittle you down to a nub. It is their job. They are hardwired to test you and grind you down.

Especially when they love you, they will just try to destroy you on a daily basis because that's the. That's the yin and yang. When a woman loves you, she has to attempt to destroy you. She has to.

She has to, because I'll tell you why. If she can't successfully destroy you, then you've proven that you're worthy of her love. So it's like all these guys will be on their mission, and then they can't take the testing that their women are giving them, and they end up giving up the mission. They.

They abdicate the throne, they abdicate their responsibility. And then guess what? Now they have no mission and they have no woman. Yeah, they lost everything.

So, dude, it has to be something that's 100 greater than the family. And I promise you, if it is something that is divinely committed, like I'm talking about, it's gonna cause conflict with your. With your woman. It's going to.

And when she's upset and she's furious that you're not emotionally available, you're not giving her enough time, You're a workaholic. You work too much. Why are you traveling? That is confirmation and reaffirmation that what you are doing is correct

00:29:46CALLER 5

100%. I couldn't agree more with what you're saying. I had a chick in my early 20s. I was.

Yeah, I was living real crazy at the time. Like living out in my cousin's spot, riding buses. Like, broke is broke as a nail. And I met this chick.

I was obsessed with photography at the Time and everything changed when I decided I'm gonna try and play house with her and I bring her into my space and I completely neglect everything else I was doing. It was like. It was like black and white and everything just crumbled in a couple of months. And it was.

It was. It was a healthy and humbling experience. It's one of the best experiences I've ever had because of everything I learned from it. But I couldn't agree more with what you're saying, man.

00:30:34HOST

Exactly, dude. It's like women can't come out and directly overtly tell you to your face what you're doing is correct. They have to do it in a. In a.

In a way of, like, subterfuge. They have to do it in a trickster kind of way because women can't be direct. They can't afford to. They're the weaker species.

So they have to use. They have to use psychic warfare to penetrate and get what they want. So it's like, the moral woman is. This is.

Here's what's very strange. The moral woman is complaining about a behavior. The more she most likely likes that behavior. Yeah, like, like, dude, like.

Like there's alcoholics that come home every night from work and they drink themselves into a blood drunken rage. And dude, I'm telling you, like, women don't leave those kind of guys. It's actually unbelievable. Like, those alcoholic types who are like, really up every day, the chicks stay with them forever because they're.

They're not tame, because they're not tamable. So that's the lesson there. The lesson there is not to be a belligerent idiot. The lesson there is just to not.

Not be tamable. Because whatever their commitment to the alcohol, that's why I'm saying, dude, it could be something so trivial, it could be something so lame and so unimportant, like, like, literally, if a guy's committed more to drinking than he is to his woman, he's got that woman for life. Just how it works.

00:31:57CALLER 5

Absolutely, man. And to give you another example, because what you're talking about when I. I'm trying to think back when this was like 24, 25, I didn't understand any of this. And when I came out of the whole situation, like, I.

I found the red pill space and whatnot, and I went down that rabbit hole and that was kind of cool for a while until, like, started poking holes in that. And a couple months ago, I moved across the country for. To. To take a.

A solopreneur job. Selling solar out here in California. So I'm going around door to doors. I'm living out of Airbnbs.

I'm sleeping in rental cars sometimes. And I've never had so much on the line. And at the same time, I've never

00:32:36HOST

had so much action in my life.

00:32:38CALLER 7

Money, women, everything.

00:32:39CALLER 5

And it's funny how. It's really funny how that works. And that's what I get a lot of times just out of listening to your spaces is I think back, I'm like, you know, I went through that at 21, or I'm going through that right now. And it's just funny how that manifests.

It's wild. So, yeah, I can't agree more with what you're saying, man. I appreciate that perspective.

00:32:59HOST

Yep. Thanks, brother. Yo, yo, yo, Pierre. What's up, bro?

00:33:13CALLER 3

Thanks for letting me on. I'm gonna reaffirm what you said real quick before I ask a question. I never really struggled with women in my entire life since maybe like, as soon as I could because I was always so hyper focused from a young age, I was forced to. And then I went through the same experience as homeboy that was talking before, and it literally just happened last week.

So I just want to point that out, but I want to say this. You got folks like Jordan Peterson, I would say, which I don't. Not really a fan of him, but you can say that he's become sort of a spokesperson because of how good he is at communicating. And personally, I feel like you're 20 times better than Jordan Peterson.

That communication, I feel like that's a great skill to have. Did you do anything to get those kind of communication skills, or has it just been years of relaying your experiences to other people that got you to be able to communicate like that?

00:34:09HOST

That's. That's exactly what it is, man.

00:34:10CALLER 10

It's just.

00:34:11HOST

It was innate. And I. That's go. It's perfect.

You asked that because I'm just doubling down on my strengths. I never cared about math. I never cared about any subject other than language and communication because I was always good at it. So I just ran off to the races with that and took it by the reins and said, you know what?

I'm just gonna maximize the. Out of this, dude. There is nothing more powerful than being good at the English language on the. On planet Earth.

Like. Like being a lawyer, being a doctor. There's one skill that you would. Would pray to God that you had.

It's good at communication skills. There's just nothing better. And here's the thing. Like, it's an infinite.

It's an infinite quest. Like, there's no way to truly master the English language, which is what's so great about it. You can always refine it. I've just spent zero time refining it.

I don't know, man. Like, when I would read books and I would see words I didn't understand, I could just understand what the word meant by context clues. I never had to crack open a thesaurus, never had to look up definitions. I would just read a word and I would.

Then I would just incorporate it into the main frame of my mind. And that's it, man. Like, that's how it happened for me. So, I mean, like 100.

It's crazy because if you're not. If you're not a natural master at English, I do think it's very hard to grapple with. It actually is a very. It is a difficult language to master, especially if it's not your first language.

It's difficult to master if it is your first language.

00:35:27CALLER 4

So.

00:35:28CALLER 3

So I'll say this. I am, at least I think that I am gifted in English. And every time I listen to you talk, I learn five different words. And I only say that because the way that I figured out I was gifted at speech in English was kind of weird.

It was kind of just me throwing myself in there when the pandemic hit. I mean, I'm around 19, 20. Friend comes up to me with like a network marketing scheme, but he doesn't really tell me what it is. He just says, hey, we're selling this, so my ass.

I'm like, okay, cool. I call everybody on my phone 20, 30 minutes later. And I live in Texas, so no heavy rules. 20, 30 minutes later, I'm at a coffee shop.

00:35:58HOST

There's 20, 30 people.

00:36:00CALLER 3

He's like, oh, well, tell them what we do. I'm like, but you just brought me on today. So I end up giving a speech and launching 20, 30 people under this info product. And I'm like, hold on, I can do this shit.

So I get on and I start creating and creating. And I'm like, okay. No, I'm gifted at speech. I started doing 100, 200 person webinars, like within a week or two.

I'm like, okay. But I attribute it to the fact that I didn't really have much growing up. I would read, like by the time I was in fifth grade, I had read hundreds of books already. And then I hear people like you speaking.

I'm like, hold on, let's see if there's a practice behind that. But I never really practice either. It's just kind of living.

00:36:33HOST

So appreciate it. Just, just, just living and articulating your experiences. Let me, let me give you the flip side of that because this is, this is also fascinating. If you are, if you're a poor communicator, here's what happens.

You become a fighter. People who get into street fights, people who are obsessed with calling people out and challenging them to fights, their communication skills are so bad, they're so frustrated they can't get what they want in life. So the last resort is, if I can't communicate with you to get what I want, I'm just gonna fight you for it. That's, that's the mentality of people who do not wield the English language, who are not a wizard with words.

00:37:06CALLER 7

And

00:37:10HOST

it's. Dude, it's extremely pervasive. Look at that. That's why.

Dude, that's why. That's why. Let's look at it this way. People who steal.

Thieves, right? Are even a thief. Don't like a thief. Like, thieves are universally frowned upon, right?

Here's why. When you, when somebody steals something from somebody without permission, what that is demonstrating is that your communication skills suck. You, you don't know how to get what you want in life because there's other people who get what they want through the art of sales. Like a guy who's good at sales gets everything that the guy who's stealing gets, but he gets it with permission, right?

That's the difference. That's why that guy gets accolades and the other guy ends up in jail because it's, There's a breakdown there. So it's like all you proved when you use deception like that and take money from somebody like that is you've proven that your communication skills are horrendous. 100.

00:38:09CALLER 3

I think I can. I think a reflective, A reflective concept of that is like a lot of times you'll have somebody that's maybe looks better naturally, and he won't know how to talk to girls for he can't speak even. Like, he, he'll choke up right away. And he won't, he'll, he'll.

He'll drop the girl. He won't be able to pick her up. And you'll see somebody that's butt ass ugly that's been forced to develop wicked communication skills and charisma walk in and do you know what? He couldn't.

00:38:36HOST

So appreciate you, duty. Yeah, of course, bro. Appreciate you too. Realizing true self.

00:38:52CALLER 10

What's up man?

00:38:52CALLER 9

Yeah, so I think I've, I remember you saying one, one time where you were like, you know, wear your heart on your sleeve because that's, that's, that's usually where you'll find exactly what you need to do.

00:39:06HOST

And I have.

00:39:08CALLER 9

So it's like this innate thing that I know that I need to do, but I'm just kind of scared to take that second, that, that step, first step to do it. Is there anything you, you can say that to, to just block that off

00:39:20HOST

and just keep, keep it pushing

00:39:23CALLER 11

for

00:39:23HOST

wearing your heart on your sleeve?

00:39:24CALLER 8

Yeah.

00:39:25CALLER 9

Like, like, because, because we all. I feel like as, as a whole, like as a man, you know, that you should be doing something that you, that could take you to the next level, but you're just kind of scared to do it. What can, what can you do to just push through that and just keep going? Like just to not care and just,

00:39:42HOST

you know, so, so you have to, you have to only pursue things that you actually want. Which is, which sounds so fundamental, but it's not. Because here's what most guys do. Most guys intentionally pursue things they don't want because if you get something that you truly don't want or let's, let's even, let's take it to the next level.

Let's say you fail at trying something. A goal. Maybe it's a goal you have in your head that you want to hit, but you don't really care about the goal. Right?

You don't really, you don't really give a. It's just a box. You want to check if you are pursuing goals that you genuinely don't give a. About.

You not only are never going to be good at it, but even worse, what happens is you'll purposely fail because you didn't really want it in the first place. And it doesn't hurt as bad. Like rejection and failure hurts so bad it hurts the male heart. When you pursue something that you really, really wanted and you fail, it hurts, it stings.

And most guys don't want to feel that pain. So they purposely go after women that they're really not even attracted to. Low hanging fruit women that are beneath them because those women will tolerate and put up with behavior that ordinarily they wouldn't be able to get away with. So these guys don't want to hold themselves to a high standard and they don't want to be accountable to themselves.

So I urge you to be very careful about pursuing things that you genuinely don't want to do. And that's, that's, that's, that's. It is. It is sort of a tough line to straddle because a lot of times you think you want it and then when you get it, you realize you didn't want it in the first place.

And that's brutal because you will piss it away. Like, you should only be dating women that you really genuinely like. Like ones that it will hurt you if they leave. Like, there has to be that risk.

Like there, they just there has to be in order for you to be at the highest level. That's why most of these gym guys are all the ugly chicks, man. Because when those girls leave, they didn't really want them. It doesn't hurt.

They don't feel a thing. They don't feel a thing. When those women exit their life because they didn't really want it. It's not really the type of chick that they, that they wanted to be with.

That's the best way I could articulate it for you. All right, thank you. Yep. Molly world, what's poppin?

00:42:12CALLER 8

I think I can answer your question. That first question you had. So these people, you say you see it on your timeline, you gotta keep in mind what age these people are. So they're the.

00:42:28HOST

Oh, my first, my, my first question about virgins.

00:42:32CALLER 8

Yeah, I'm, I'm in. I can answer it. So, I mean, I, I think I know the answer.

00:42:38CALLER 4

It's.

00:42:39CALLER 8

I mean, the first off, these people you're following, they're younger. So they're like 20, 21, 22 chicks. 20, 21, 22. They have body counts of like 80 plus they got a rotation of 15 guys. They're at the same time.

Why would you want to lock that down? Like, of course you're gonna go after the younger chick with, like, who doesn't have all that trauma and isn't doing that. Like, I don't see why that's hard to understand.

00:43:10HOST

Where does that exist? Brother, that's chasing unicorns. Listen to this. Here's the flip side of the to the coin.

Those chicks that you claim have high body counts, guess what? Those chicks don't put up with losers. Those chicks are going for high status men. That's where all the competition is.

All the competition. The most beautiful women in the world that have high body counts, guess who they're. They ain't the chumps. That's not happening.

They're the NBA guys, the high status me Guys like that. That's who they're. I mean, they're all competition. So these guys.

These guys are shirking. Listen. They're shirking from competition, which is. I am.

I absolutely am the largest ambassador for competition. I think it creates greatness. And if. If those types of women in the current landscape are holding those men to the highest standard, because, bro, those.

The most beautiful chicks with high body counts, they're not losers. But guess who will. A loser. A virgin with no frame of reference because she's.

She has no experience. She'll still take you for your little fucking grocery bagger job. You're broke, you're out of shape. She doesn't know any better.

That's why the guys like the virgins. That's where that obsession is born from. It's born from the fact that those women don't have any standards because they have no frame of reference. When women have a frame of reference, I.

E. A lot of experience, guess what? The competition gets staggering, and these guys don't want to face that. They don't want to face it.

Sounds like you don't want to face it.

00:44:40CALLER 8

No, I'm saying if you're younger, if you're 22, why would you get with a chick your age when you could get with a chick that's only, like, two years younger? And like, like, does that. How does that not make sense?

00:44:55HOST

I mean, bro, what's the difference? At the end of the day, talking two, three years. I mean, that's. I'm talking about getting deep inside the psychology of that virgin fantasy, man.

And I know for a fact I'm correct.

00:45:08CALLER 8

So you think. Do you think that one clip you might have seen where Tate's like, the closer they are to 30, the more baggage they have? Like, he's just saying that to Grift.

00:45:20HOST

No, I don't think he was grifting. I think he's absolutely speaking to a cultivated, curated audience. 100. I also think that he knows who his people are. He's a smart guy.

But I'll tell you one thing, one thing, brother. You think Tate was running around town banging virgins? No. Think the kind of chicks that Tate was pulling off Instagram had low body counts.

I guarantee you they don't.

00:45:44CALLER 8

I mean, Tristan talked about being with a 16 year old.

00:45:48HOST

I mean, dude, I don't know anything about that. All I'm telling you is if you have friends that are at the highest echelons of society, none of them, not a single one of them is concerned with banging virgins.

00:45:59CALLER 10

It's.

00:45:59HOST

You're not gonna find it. You're not gonna find it. It is a utopian fantasy on Twitter. Sounds great in theory.

I'm not gonna say, look, the theory sounds immaculate. It's, it's an impressive theory because it seems innocuous on the surface. That's, that's. See, the right wing is really good at coming up with innocuous theories that sound incredible in theory, but in practice they're just a flop.

Dude, it's just a flop. It's just this. And my whole point is, dude, is that most people are using that virgin thing as an excuse to exit the game. You gotta play the game that's in front of you.

If gender roles are blurred right now and gender roles are fucked up worldwide, which they obviously are, you have to play that game. You don't have a choice. You gotta get experience. You got to get your feet wet.

You got to get your, your hands dirty. Like that's just what it is. The correction will come.

00:46:58CALLER 8

So you know, if you're a younger guy and you go after a younger chick instead of a chick your age, that she's not going to be more loyal to you. You think the chick who's seen like 20 guys is going to be more loyal? Like if you're younger, I guess it's you. Like you're already.

00:47:15HOST

That's a good question. It's a good. You know what I mean?

00:47:17CALLER 8

Like, you got to see my point.

00:47:20HOST

It's, it's, I mean, dude, I don't have to see anything, but it's a good question. The thing with that is, is like. Every, every woman. Dude, I did a video on this.

Every woman is a lot more malleable than a man. That's just a fact. Like, like you can take the most democratic left leaning woman and you can 100 flip her red as you can. You can make her pivot hard.

Right. If you're the right guy. That's just the fact like women, when women jump out of a relationship, they are tabula rasa, a blank slate. They're ready to be molded and reshaped all over again.

So no alpha.

00:48:00CALLER 8

You don't think the alpha widow thing's real?

00:48:02HOST

I think that's. No, I mean, there's some there, dude. There's some, there's some merit. No, there's some merit to all this, dude.

Like I'm not going to sit here, I'm not going to sit here and say there's no merit to any of it. I'm just giving you a perspective as a man who I've dated all kinds of Women, younger women, older women, everything in between. They're all free. I love women.

They're all great. You know, when I was 22, I was banging a 40 year old for a long time. She was amazing. She was a former Italian model, took great care of herself.

She was tight. She had a great body, beautiful face. Like that whole thing that women are washed after 25 is just absolute nonsense, dude. Yeah, I don't believe that it's nonsense, but I'm gonna move on, bro.

Thank you for the question. That was a good one. Yeah, thanks, bro. Yo, Nazar.

00:49:05CALLER 3

Hey, what's going on? Thanks for letting me speak. Just want to touch on what you said about the virgin thing.

00:49:11HOST

I completely agree.

00:49:12CALLER 3

It's a way of people, you know,

00:49:14HOST

stepping out of the game. But what are your thoughts on wifing up a virgin? Because I heard a rumor. Now, I don't know if this is

00:49:22CALLER 3

true or not, but if a girl is getting dicked down 20, 30 times, she has a high body count.

00:49:29HOST

I've heard that the dicks leave imprints in her. Yeah, you're talking about micro. Microchimerism. Yes.

Yeah, I do believe there's probably an element of truth to that, bro. But here's the deal. There are those types of women who are experienced, are absolutely capable of falling in love with a strong, powerful man. It's a fact.

I've seen it over and over and over again. They don't really have loyalty issues. There's a. There's a malleable component here that people aren't taking into account, which is that women are a reflection of you.

So it doesn't matter what a woman's history is. As much like your history as a man, believe it or not, is more important than a woman's history. Because your history is what created you. A woman's history can be wiped with one swipe of the hand like a Etch A Sketch and that shit's at ground zero again, ready to be re baked, ready to be recreated.

Women jump out of relationships and they are completely ready to be recreated. That's why they go on those enlightenment journeys and start drinking smoothies and doing yoga. And you know what they're doing? They're cleansing themselves so they can go back and find the baddest boy possible.

That's what they're doing. All those chicks who go on those enlightenment journeys, like they'll go get tents, they'll go camping, they'll go start getting dirty, they go vegan, they start eating fruits and start, you know, doing gratitude, astrology all those chicks are basically using that as a training ground to go find the baddest possible. When they come out of it, that's all they're doing. That's all they're doing.

That's all they want. Like. Like, dude, I've been. I've been with plenty of women who.

I don't. I have no clue what their body counts were. But I'll tell you something. I've never had any issues in my entire life getting a woman to behave in a way that was constructive for our relationship.

I've never had an unruly woman cross my path. I've just never seen it. Never seen it.

00:51:29CALLER 3

Got you, dude.

00:51:31HOST

It's more. It's more of a reflection of you than it is of her, man. That's what these guys don't really want to. Because, dude, all the accountability is on us.

Like, that's just how it is, man. I mean, to some degree, Like, I don't even want to say it. You have to. You have to categorize women and children in somewhat of the same capacity, if that makes sense.

I do believe that. I 100 believe that I could. I can go on and on and on for examples of how women and children should be. Like, women and children deserve to be happy.

I believe that. I believe women and children should protect their innocence, and they should be happy. When I say protect their innocence, I mean, women should not be exposed to the workforce. They shouldn't be working eight hours on their feet in restaurants and getting slaughtered by, like.

That's just that. That definitely is going to wear down a woman's femininity 100%. Like, women and children deserve to be happy. I've just.

That's like, something that I stand for. Men, not so much. Men really don't deserve to be happy because miserable men built the empire that you and I are speaking in right now. Miserable men built the channels of communication that's allowing us to have this conversation.

Men who literally had the weight collapsing upon their shoulders, and they refused to put their emotions first. That's who's done it. That's who's erected all the skyscrapers, all the technology, everything. Dude, it's a bunch of miserable men who were probably tortured souls who had no choice but to invent, be industrial and create.

That's what we do. That's the burden. That's the burden that we bear as men. Remember, I said in my last space, you can either be effective or happy.

It's your choice. But you can't be both. Can't be both. You know what?

You know what we get as men? We get to settle for happy moments, which is the best part. Like, we get to thoroughly enjoy moments, and then those moments go away, and then they come back again. And that's what makes the golden time so special for us, because our whole lives are not happy.

But we do get moments that are so juiced, full of joy and happiness. I'll settle for that all day. I would rather have happy moments than a happy life. Because if I have a happy life as a man, there is zero percent chance I am pushing myself to my highest capabilities.

Literally zero. Appreciate you coming up. Yes, sir. Thanks.

All right, crypto capo. I know you've been wanting to talk for a while here. What do you got? Yo, yo, yo.

What do you got for yo?

00:54:34CALLER 2

I can't believe I'm on your stage right now. Let's go. I listen to these every morning in the gym.

00:54:39HOST

So what?

00:54:40CALLER 2

You were just saying men, life of suffering. You've also tweeted, and I know you get hyperbolic occasionally, but you've also tweeted that men who aren't following their own desire. I'm. I'm paraphrasing here, but men who aren't following their own desires are fucking lying to themselves.

And you're living with a girl you hate, and you're working a job you hate, and you could be injecting testosterone straight up your ass, and your hormones will still be up. But on the other hand, we just talked about how men basically live lives of, like, quiet desperation. And, like, I honestly. I agree with both takes, dude.

Like, my. The. The tr. Like, the truth is, I.

I started listening to these spaces a lot after I had this crazy conversation with a couple friends. We were. We happened to eat a handful of mushrooms. But that's aside from the point.

The question was, if you found out you couldn't have kids and you were infertile, what's the next thing you would do? And these. My two buddies basically agreed that the first thing they would do is quit their jobs. And, like, that is not the jump I would make in my mind thinking, like, if you are an infertile person, why would you quit your job?

And that just leads you to think, like, are we all doing this that we hate every day to provide for the ones that we love? And, like, in reality, it's not, like, our truth. Like, did you follow what I'm saying?

00:56:25HOST

Yes, absolutely.

00:56:26CALLER 2

It's just a crazy. Like, it's a crazy thought. Like, it's basically like, Finding out you have cancer and you have three months to live, like, what are you gonna do? You're gonna quit your job and start living for yourself?

The same thing as if you found out you were straight up infertile? Everyone who's working a job they hate right now in a place they don't want to be, but they're comfortable and surrounded by their family is because in the back of their mind, I believe they know they'll have a family. And this came up because I'm having my first kid in a couple months. But it's just cr.

It's. It's crazy. Like, you really touched. You don't even.

I don't know if you realize it, but you straight up touched on, like, the dichotomy of man in one tweet and then, like, one sentence on the space just now. I don't know if you've realized it, but when I saw it, I was like, I gotta hop on stage and see and. And get. Get your thoughts on anything about what I just said.

I just.

00:57:17HOST

Yeah, of course. No, it's good. One thing I do want to address, dude, is that you have to understand any man who's on an excellent pursuit or a path to glory in life is going to be a walking contradiction. Contradiction is something that's prevalent in all great speakers.

It's something in all great thinkers, because great thinkers are constantly challenging themselves and challenging their own truth. So I think contradiction is usually a good sign. Like, I love going on people's pages and seeing them contradict themselves. I don't think that's a negative thing at all.

I think people who are unable or unwilling to contradict themselves have a lot of baggage that they're unwilling to sort of wade through. It's not a good sign, man. It's. It's always a great sign when a man is willing to contradict himself because it shows that he's.

He's pushing his intellectual firepower. He's pushing his horses. Word.

00:58:07CALLER 2

I. I agree.

00:58:08HOST

It's a beautiful thing, man. And that's what art is, right? Like, fundamentally, an artist is someone who is. Is contradicting reality and fantasy.

Like, that's just what that is. So, like, I look at everybody as an artist, by the way. Everybody. I look at everybody as a creator and everybody as an artist.

Everybody has an artistic interpretation of reality. And I'm just here sharing my own. So of course it's going to be riven and rife with, you know, inconsistencies and contradictions and Zen coons. And Chinese finger traps, like, that's just built into the equation.

That's why conversation is so important, because you sift through these things and you arrive at points. I mean, dude, like, a lot of the things I even say are, I'm testing my audience. I like to. To test the intellectual horsepower of my own audience to see who's rocking with me, who's not.

Because ultimately, dude, I don't really want to grow my following. I want to whittle it. I want to whittle it the down. I just want my tribe to stick with me, and that's it.

I don't really need a hundred thousand followers. Give me 20 hardcore soldiers who are going to fight with me in any endeavor, and I'm a happy camper.

00:59:18CALLER 2

Word.

00:59:18HOST

So I. Yeah, I'm testing all the time, bro. Some of my tweets are intentionally testing people's limits. And then I see the fish just jump right into the comment section.

I'm like, there he is. I got him. And there's people out there who. There's people out there who know what I'm doing when I'm tweeting.

Some. Some. Some guys are clever and shrewd and sharp, and they're like, I see what brutes do on. Some guys don't.

00:59:40CALLER 2

Yeah, yeah. No, I wasn't even, like, trying to point out the contradiction.

00:59:44HOST

I was honestly.

00:59:45CALLER 2

I was honestly glad to hear you say what you just said, because when you see a tweet or whatever, you know, like the. If you're not living for solely yourself, you're not living type of mentality, and then you realize, like, I guess I'm not living a hundred percent for myself. If it was up to just me, it'd be me, my girl, we'd be in Europe. I'd have a.

A fast car and an Xbox and. And that would be that. But in reality, like, we're in our apartment, we're saving money, we're, you know, it's like, it's. You're not living 100 for you, but to.

To hear. To kind of hear you talk about, well, what you were just speaking about with the last speaker and. And. And give and give.

Cadence to that, that was dope. So I. I definitely like the fact that you could take both sides of something. Something.

Because life isn't so simple as one side is fits all. But, yeah, dude, keep doing what you're doing. I'm definitely one of the 20 if it gets to that point.

01:00:42HOST

That is correct. I appreciate you, bro. I will tell you the most Painful aspect of being a man, by far, is when you are so engrossed with your mission and your work, you are jaded to a degree. Like, it's very hard to receive the love of a woman.

It's very hard to receive the accolades and attention. Like, my inbox is filled every day with dudes just telling me how great I am. And I don't. I don't.

I don't take it to my head because I'm unable to because I'm so focused on my work, if that makes sense. And so, like, dude, that's the most difficult part of being a man, is, like, you can have a woman who genuinely, genuinely loves you so dearly and would do anything for you. You have cohesion in your family structure, but when you come home from a brutal day of grinding your gears and figuring out your work, you're somewhat unreceptive to it. And that's painful to wrestle with.

Like, you're getting everything you want, but you might not be able to receive it in the way that you want to, because, dude, life jades men. Life jades men. Time jades men. That's what it does.

And I'll tell you, like, the benefits of that are that you're. You become desensitized to the things that would shatter and cripple an ordinary person. That's the greatest part about being a man, dude, is, like, you go through this journey long enough, you're. You've seen so much, you've experienced so much.

You're so kind of jaded to it all that, like, when bad happens to you, you can literally just chuckle because you're just like. You could just chuckle through it because you're just like,. This would. This would absolutely.

This would make an ordinary person jump off the Golden Gate Bridge. But for me, I'm just gonna keep it moving. Yeah, that's just how it works, dude. It's like.

That's why, like, the mat, the man on the mountain, we have all these archetypes in. In ancient lore and folk heroes. That's why they're always older. Because older men have that luxury of just being jaded by time, which.

Which means they're desensitized to the things that would throw an or, like, a younger guy right on his ass. That's why everybody goes to older men for wisdom. Because they're callous. Because they're callous.

They're callous, dude. Yeah.

01:03:02CALLER 2

And my. My girl's looking at me listening to this, and she's probably thinking that I've Literally said, like, everything you've just said. Like, I lost my dad when I was younger.

01:03:13CALLER 7

Younger.

01:03:13HOST

I've.

01:03:14CALLER 2

Similar to tweets that you've tweeted. I. I mean, many of us in crypto ran up a bag and BW it, like seven figures up and down in one or two days. And then you, like, you.

You think like, how the. Do you get, like, it's. It's almost like insane that you can go through these things and just get out of bed in the morning, the next day and like, just. Just.

Just go to work or just be a person, you know, and then you, you know, it's. It's. It's crazy. Honestly, it's crazy the amount of callous that it.

That it takes eventually to become the

01:03:50HOST

man that you want to be. That's what it is. Dude.

01:03:54CALLER 2

It is my time to watch a movie with this one, so I'm gonna jump. But I appreciate you having me on here, bro.

01:03:59HOST

Yep. Got you, bro. Thank you.

01:04:01CALLER 7

Later.

01:04:07HOST

Yo, Gavin. Hey. I appreciate it. So I'll be.

I'll be honest. A lot of the questions I've already had were very answered through just self analysis. But something I did want a bit more context on was, what if you don't know what you don't know? For example, I'm a lot more younger than most people in the space, and there's a lot of experiences that I haven't had yet.

01:04:30CALLER 4

Yeah.

01:04:30HOST

So what are you asking me? So it's like you said, it's a very black and white question. But take Apple. Like a lot of experiences in business, how do you deal with not knowing what you don't know?

Like, I'll tell you how. You got to go up against better opponents than you in life at a young age, Meaning you have to get embroiled and involved in deals with people who are smarter than you, sharper than you, more shrewd than you, more clever than you. You have to put yourself up against opponents who can crush you to dust. That's how you get good at anything.

That's what I did in my 20s. I was hustling with sharks who'd been in the game a lot longer than me. I got my ass kicked on a hundred deals in a row before I started to become more like them. That's the thing, dude.

That's the whole game right there is you gotta pick badass opponents. You have to. You gotta wrestle with those types of guys because you're never gonna learn the game. You're never gonna understand how far some people are Willing to go to win.

Some people will literally do anything to be victorious. There's. Those guys are out there. They will do anything.

They'll do a lot more than you will. And you need to find those guys and, and learn from them. You know what I mean? Yeah, and I agree with that because I think what I need to do right now is bite off more than I can chew.

Dude, you can't. As a young guy, you will go nowhere very fast. You'll be a sinking piece of driftwood. If you only hang out with guys your age, I mean, you look at any young guy who's successful, they hung out with a guy at least 10, 15, 20 years older as a mentor.

It's just mandatory, man. It's just mandatory. Yeah, it's mandatory. Keep it moving.

That was a good one. Defund the banks, Yo. Defund. What's going on?

01:06:36CALLER 10

Hey, Brute, thanks for having me on, man. Appreciate you. Great spaces real quick. A lot of the people speaking today been younger guys, 20s, mid-20s, max.

My question is for somebody in their early to mid-30s. Does anything change vis a vis what you're saying? Or is it the same advice? Or is it more of, well, you're not young anymore, you don't have that much time, etc.

Etc. So maybe take a little bit of an L and try to play it safe.

01:07:08HOST

No, you're not young in your 20s either. Don't get me wrong. I think you're a full grown man by the time you're. I mean, realistically, you want to like go off of my scale.

I think you're a grown ass man when you're like 16. I mean, that's, that's really how it is in your mid-30s. Dude. What happens is, because I'm in my mid-30s, is the desire it be.

It becomes more of a slog to maintain the desire.

01:07:33CALLER 10

Right?

01:07:34HOST

A little bit like the same gusto that I had to get myself in the gym when I was 20. A little bit different at. Is a little bit different at 35. And you have to wrestle with those forces on a daily basis, right?

Because like I said, you, you get kind of jaded after a while. It's like, it's like, do I really need to snatch £300 anymore? Not really.

01:07:53CALLER 10

Right.

01:07:55HOST

But I do it. But I do it because I want to. I, I don't want to lose my edge, right? I don't want to lose my edge.

And I. Dude, I mean, there's. Look at all the older dudes who are in their even 50s and 60s that are like Clydesdales, they just don't die, right? They're just, they, they don't, they don't die.

Why do they maintain that youthful energy? Why do you think that is?

01:08:20CALLER 10

So assuming that was. I think there's two things. I think one is, and I don't know if I can, if you have got a long line of people wanting to talk. And then I'll stop.

But I think a lot of it is if you're in your mid to late 20s or early 30s and you've got a couple of wins under your belt and you talked a lot about, you know, 100 deals going south and the general trend is a lot of things will not work out for you and then you get better and better and then things start to play out for you and then you're ahead of the game. And it's kind of a, you know, it's not a linear curve, but it's kind of an exponential curve. And I agree. And it seems like if you kind of have a few wins under your belt and it gets easier to kind of build that, that drive because you've seen some success, and then in your 40s and your 50s, it kind of carries on.

So answering your question, I. That's what I've seen. To have these guys continually pushing in the 40s and 50s, they would have had to seen some success in the early days.

01:09:19HOST

I don't know that I anticipate 40s being the golden age. By the way, I think 40s for men is probably the best decade of their life. If you did it right, you stayed in shape and you maintained your health.

01:09:31CALLER 10

Right?

01:09:31HOST

I mean, dude, health is really the cornerstone of this whole thing. Right? It's the, it's, it's the lynchpin. Like if you're, when you're, healthy, your entire outlook on life changes.

And when you're unhealthy, you have a up mentality. It's just that simple. So anybody who's a trailblazer or who's out there and has sort of an optimistic fervor for life is a healthy man in my book. Like there's, there's no way you can be physically healthy and also be mentally spirited.

Those things go hand in hand. So when someone has an ugly mentality, sort of a grotesque sort of self efficing viewpoint on life, I know that's not a healthy individual.

01:10:11CALLER 10

Right?

01:10:12HOST

Physically.

01:10:13CALLER 10

Physically, right. 100. Thanks so much, man.

01:10:18HOST

Yep. Let's get Rico. Rico's been wanting to talk for a while. Rico, what's up, buddy.

01:10:30CALLER 4

Yo.

01:10:31HOST

You hear me? Yep. All right, bro.

01:10:34CALLER 4

So.

01:10:35HOST

So I'm actually. I'm moving my business across country right now. I'm in the process of driving down to Florida. You were talking about how, like, in your early 20s, you were getting connected with sharks and dealing with those type of players in the game and whatnot.

And I was just wondering, how do you get involved with those type of characters? Because, I mean, I had business up north and whatnot, but, like, there was really. There was really nobody to lay a blueprint or anybody that I could really connect with that was like a player in the game, like I want to be. So I was just one.

Just wondering how you get connected with those type of folks. You have to get off the Internet and you have to meet them in the stronghold that I was talking about earlier, which is like your establishment that you have on lockdown. That's where you meet these types of people. Because those, dude, sharks are.

There's sharks on the Internet for sure. But most of those guys that you're going to really learn from with that real world pretty experience, they're out there in the real world, man. They're still doing dinners. They're still making pres.

They're still showing up. They're still showing. Showing up every day in the real world. Like, that's.

That's the whole thing, dude, is like, you're never gonna get it online. Online is historical. And most people have done. Hey, can you mute your mic, bro?

Yeah, hold up. Perfect. That's way better. Here's the deal, bro.

Most people have done social media ass backwards. You're supposed to get a lot of real world experience. Rough. Get a lot.

Get a lot of. Bro, can you. Can you mute that, please? Thank you.

You're supposed to get a lot of real world experience. Rough and tumble. Take your licks, and then you're supposed to come online and share those experiences. That's what makes you interesting.

If you really want to create a brand, that's who you have to be. These guys are doing it in reverse. They're coming online, essentially becoming clones of the bigger accounts. You know how many brute tweets I see every day?

People are just recycling my material all over the time timeline. And I'm like. In my head, I'm like, dude, these guys don't understand how bad they're cucking themselves doing that. They're cucking themselves real bad because they're trying to build an avatar online.

And then they think if they get success and money online, then they're going to re inject themselves in the real world and everything's going to pan out fine. It's the exact opposite. You got to become somebody in the real world and then come online. That's what makes you a.

That. If you want legendary status, that's how you have to do it. That's how you have to do it. If you, if you're talking about like a personal brand, don't, don't come on here and start mimicking and parroting other people and trying to put it in your own words.

There's so many guys doing that right now and that's on its way out. People are understanding. There's a consensus right now in social media where, look at all the tools people don't take advantage of. How many people do you see running spaces?

How many people do you see doing videos? Nobody, because these guys have nothing to say. They got nothing to say. They can sit there and fucking tweet all day, but they can't get in front of the camera.

They can't host the spaces right now with what, 700 people in here, they can't do it because they have no real world experience. So that's the grand differentiator right now is social media is going to make an accelerated push towards the people who did deal with the sharks, towards the people who do have the stories to tell in the real world. The social media is going to fall in their lap. You're going to be sitting on a pot of gold in about one or two years.

You watch the guys who are going to come on here and share the real world. Those guys are going to make out like bandits. And the guys who can't do, who can't twist and turn and corkscrew, the multimedia going to get absolutely annihilated. Like the days of just being able to post and write in writing, that's going to die out.

People are going to want more of an authentic experience, especially when it comes to personal brand. People are going to want to hear you speak. People are going to want to see you on camera. Is this guy who he says he is?

People can ascertain that very quickly when they listen to you speak. That's why nobody's doing spaces, because people will figure out in two seconds you don't know what the you're talking about. You know, you know what I mean? Like that's really what's going on right now.

There's a massive shift in social media and it's all going to be for the taking. And the people who are going to make out are the ones who are using multimedia. Those a little off topic, but the point does remain. Dude, if you get involved in the real world and get your hands dirty with sharks and you get those experiences and you learn, you can take those psychological trappings and you can bring them to the Internet.

People want to hear that. Yo, phases. What's up, Phases?

01:15:23CALLER 6

Oh, hey, my bad. Yeah. First and foremost, thanks so much for hosting the space. You know, I gather a lot from your insights.

01:15:36HOST

Hey, tell me something. I'm actually very curious because I get DMS from women, sure. Consistently that tell me all the time that they love my content. And I, and I, as somebody who does understand human psychology, I cannot for the life of me truly understand why a woman would be interested in my content considering it's laced and infused with just max testosterone.

Share with me, please.

01:16:00CALLER 6

Yeah, I think basically women just like to understand, like, how a man thinks. Just generally you break down like the thought process that goes behind the actions that we see.

01:16:15HOST

Gotcha. That's what I figured.

01:16:17CALLER 6

Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, I just hopped into the space, so I'm not sure what to already discuss. But, like, I wanted to get your take on how a woman with like a high net worth should navigate the dating scene. As much as I would love to rest on my laurels and be like some debutante, like, unfortunately I can't do that because I'm a first generation female immigrant from a third world country.

Like, the hustle is in my blood. You feel me?

01:16:49HOST

So while you're struggling, while I'm on

01:16:52CALLER 6

my journey to being worth like 77 figures as an entrepreneur, how do I navigate romantic relationships? Because, like, ultimately I prioritize like one's mentality when I'm vetting for potential suitors. Like, I want a guy who like sees the Matrix for what it is. Like, someone who isn't like shocked that I'm unvaccinated.

Like, you feel me, like someone who isn't like beaten down by his boss or by capitalism, but like, is on his hero mission at the same time. Like, I just don't want to be seen like, as a competitor because some men are definitely turned off when women earn a lot of money. I want to be viewed as this companion, like, first and foremost. But like, just because I'm securing the bag, like, doesn't mean I'm not like demure or agreeable or resting in my femininity.

So yeah, basically, like, how do I still pursue my personal aspirations without being a turn off to a high value man?

01:18:00HOST

Well, I just got a free audition in front of 600 people, so I'm sure you'll get some DMS out of this. Okay, So I don't think. I don't think we have anything to worry about. I think you're golden.

01:18:08CALLER 6

All right, cool. Thanks for your stamp of approval.

01:18:12HOST

Yep. The tennis. Dawn, what's up, baby? Yo, 10 is done.

Yo.

01:18:27CALLER 4

So you talked a lot about how you're unfazed by, like, losses in life and taking a lot of losses. I just want to know, was there ever, like, a moment where you felt like you were unfazed by winning? Because I feel like. I feel like.

Like, winners know how to win, you know?

01:18:45HOST

Dude, absolutely. All the time. I mean, now when I get wins, I'm numb to it the same way I am to the losses. It doesn't mean a fucking thing to me.

I mean, it is. It is sort of the same mechanism. But here's what's interesting. Like, if you are a winner, obviously that the goal is to win at all times, there are a lot of people who are losers who want to win so they have more to lose.

Does that make sense? Like, some people want to win just so they have more to lose, so they can sort of reinforce that identity of being a loser. Loser. But when you say unfazed about winning, unpack that for me, because that's an interesting question.

01:19:22CALLER 4

Well, I just amplify that. I just feel like winners are, like, know how to say even keel, like, whether it's a win or a loss, you know?

01:19:30HOST

Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. It's not like when I hit big licks nowadays. I don't celebrate. I'm.

I'm extremely San Froid, and I'm extremely cool, calm, and collected, no matter what the circumstances are. Here's the thing, bro. I. The process for me is what I enjoy.

I enjoy the hunt itself. Like, the winning is just gonna come. So for me, it's not really about the wins or losses on a daily basis that I measure. It's that long term.

I know for a fact I'm gonna win because I always have. So the day, the daily snapshot of where I stand doesn't really mean much to me. Right, right, right.

01:20:02CALLER 4

No, because I've been like. I mean, I've taken, like, you know, a boatload of losses in my life.

01:20:08HOST

You a tennis gambler?

01:20:10CALLER 4

So right now, I'm not gambling, actually. I trade, like, commodities and Forex. But I. I am pretty good at tennis, to be honest.

Like, I've ran up. I've ran up like, 4K to, like, 12K within, like, two months. Tennis. But, yeah, no, I just.

I just feel like, like, all, like, the lowest points of my life have come. Come after a big win when I guess, like, I wasn't in things for the right reason. And then. Yeah, like.

Like, it's like. It's almost like after you take that win, you're not the same person that. That got you to that point.

01:20:44HOST

Right, Correct.

01:20:48CALLER 4

Yeah.

01:20:48CALLER 5

Yeah.

01:20:49CALLER 4

So now I'm like, now I'm finally at a point where, like, I'm, you know, I'm winning. And, like, I. When I got that big win, I was like. I was just unfazed, Like, I was so surprised, like, by myself, because I was just, like, I didn't give a.

01:21:01HOST

You know what I mean? Were you surprised? See, I. I've always had this thing in my head where I think a lot of people get really excited about success because they think that when you.

Once you're successful, that food tastes different, music is gonna, you know, sound different, like, that your entire life is amplified. And that's a very. It's a huge myth. Like, if you're.

If you make $10 million tomorrow, steak is still steak. Music is still music. Like, rich people and poor people are going to do most of the same. It's not really what people think it is.

And I think most people think there's this euphoric high that comes from just getting these massive windfalls and massive winds that are very sudden. I think people. People sort of fantasize about sudden success because they think they're going to sort of be on this high, and that's just not how it works. It's like, anybody who knows, you know, I used to have a Rolls Royce.

I had a Rolls Royce dawn in 2017. It was a $500,000 convertible. And when I had that car, the novelty wore off in, like, two weeks, and it just didn't feel like any. It just didn't feel like anything at all.

Because I'll tell you why. The same type of person you have to be to be successful is the same type of person who also is not going to get a cocaine high off of having a Rolls Royce.

01:22:21CALLER 4

Right.

01:22:22HOST

Does that make sense?

01:22:23CALLER 4

Yeah. Like, you talked about that bodybuilder that he, like, he lifted the world record

01:22:27HOST

or whatever, and then.

01:22:28CALLER 4

And then he was furious with himself because he didn't. Or what was it? He didn't break the world record, but he won the gold medal or something.

01:22:36HOST

Yes, exactly. Yeah.

01:22:38CALLER 4

Yeah. Like, I feel like all the winners, like, That I know in my life. Like, they, they just, like sometimes some of them are just born with it. Like a lot of winners are just born with that.

Like, they just, they like, for some reason, like whenever they win, like, they just, they, they're just able to keep on progressing. But for a lot of people, exactly. It's like they'll make it to the league and like they'll get into a bunch of drugs, they'll. A bunch of hookers, and then like within a year, like they're out of it or like they're playing in Europe or some.

Like, there's just, there's just a difference between like a LeBron and like a guy that you know.

01:23:07CALLER 1

You know.

01:23:10HOST

Exactly, dude. Most people are surprised by their wins.

01:23:13CALLER 2

Yeah.

01:23:13HOST

Like they land, they land a beautiful woman, they land a job. Like, they're genuinely shocked and surprised. Winners aren't true. Winners are not shocked and surprised when they win.

It's, it's, it's almost like drinking water. It's, it's extremely trivial and they do it for the sake of just winning itself. That's the distinction between winners and losers. Losers have their eyes on Lambos and, and certain metrics and houses on the beach.

All that shit's cool for sure. But winners are way more concerned with just the process of winning. It really doesn't really matter. Like, everything else is somewhat inconsequential.

I've noticed that with myself too. Like when I had. When I experience really, really high class luxury things that I know 0.0001% of the population will never experience, I don't really get a kick out of it the way I did in my early 20s. I just enjoy winning.

I'm. I show up every day because I just like to get what I want. It doesn't really matter what that is. And dude, here's the other thing with winners, and I really want to emphasize this.

If you are somebody who struggles to gratify your whims, it's going to be a very challenging life for you as a man. And what I mean by that is like the common denominator that I have noticed among very high achievers is, is they take very, very small things and they make them extremely important. I'll give you an example. Like if I want a bone broth right now and I just, in my head, I just decide I need a bone broth, if I go to the store down the street and they're out of it, I'm gonna drive 45 minutes away if I have to.

I Don't give a what kind of traffic I'm in. I don't give a if I gotta use the shoulder lane to get there. I am going to hunt and ruthlessly track down that bone broth. Because I want it.

Because I want it right then and there. I'm not going to wait till tomorrow, not going to wait for it to come back in stock. If I want something, it has to happen right then and there. Don't give a how inconvenienced I am.

I will get it. I will get it. And that is a hallmark feature of people who are obsessed with winning, is that if you're a person who struggles to gratify your whimsical, you're probably not that guy. Like, dude, even raw cheese.

Like, if I want a piece of raw cheese. Jean Charles Arnaud Compti. The greatest raw cheese that was ever created, and it's sold out. I'm gonna go anywhere I need to.

I'll hop a plane to the next state to get it. I'm petty like that. I'm petty like that because if I want it, I have to have it. And, like, that's the kind of mentality you have to have to make it.

But most people are just.

01:25:53CALLER 10

It's.

01:25:53HOST

See things, they quit, they give up too easily. Oh, you don't have what I want in stock. No problem. I'll just order it online.

I'll get it in three or four days. Dude, that's not a sense of urgency. That's not a winning mentality. When I see people do, like, dude, it's all the little.

That tells you who people are. When people are so willing to just, like, forego getting what they want right then and there, I'm like, yeah, okay. I mean, this guy's average. Average?

Yeah, it's just average. That's what ordinary people do. Other people don't take no for an answer. They just don't take no for an answer.

They gotta have it when they want it. And it just. That segues perfectly into my whole topic on speeding up time. You know what I mean?

Like, I don't wait for. I do not like waiting for. If it's in my control and I can expedite it, I'm expediting it. It.

I'll pay whatever fee I gotta pay. Just get it to me now.

01:26:47CALLER 4

Do you think that's innate? Like, do you think, like, being a winner is just an 8? Because I've noticed, like, growing up, like, there's just been, like, very clear winners and, like, very clear Losers?

01:26:56HOST

Absolutely. I think it's an eight.

01:26:57CALLER 4

But if I. But, like, do you think you can mold it? Because if I'm being completely honest, like, I feel like I've probably been on the loser side for the most of my life. Right.

But I've noticed, like, now, like, I. Like now I've gotten a bit older. Like, I've. I feel like I'm, like, getting way more callous to winning.

And I feel like that's, like, the sign that. That's telling me that I'm ready to. To win, you know, like when I.

01:27:17HOST

Yes. So. So here's. Here's how it works in the animal kingdom.

Inferior, weaker animals who are not winners, what they do is they use all sorts of defense adaptations to make themselves appear as winners. You have all sorts of defenses in the animal kingdom, right? You have. You have fish that can puff themselves up to make themselves look bigger, bad or stronger.

Humans are no different. So losers have learned, it's called animal mimicry, that if they mimic and take on the posture and subsume sort of the ethos and Persona of winners, I mean, that's the. Where the whole fake it till you make it strategy comes from, right? It's taking some.

A weaker mammal, essentially. And what you're doing is you're using animal mimicry and you're mimicking the. Mimicking the traits of somebody who's actually winning. And what happens is you.

You do end up getting some profit from that. Like, you're casting a net. There's gonna be some boons, there's gonna be some serendipity. There's gonna be some fortuitous events that follow your way from that puffery.

In. In the animal kingdom, it's called puffery. It's what you see online. You see online, you see a lot of losers puffing themselves up trying to be bigger than what they are.

And there's obviously a profit margin there. But real winners aren't doing that. You know what I mean? Real winners are being mimicked.

Real. Real winners are being mimicked. That's why I've been so sort of contentious and hostile towards, like, the whole copywriting thing and the whole, like, marketing it. Something just seems very inauthentic with it.

It's like those guys are just studying winners all day. They're studying winners. They're like in a zoo exhibit studying a superior animal. And then what they're doing is they're transcribing the winning formula that they have observed in other people on paper to make a sale.

That's Just not something I'm willing to myself to do. I mean, I don't really look down on it. I understand it's a literary lucrative industry. Everybody's got their hands in the till right now with it.

But it's a very exhibitionistic way of living. Like, do you want to be the studied or do you want to be the studier? Marketers are studiers. You're studying the habits and patterns of other people.

It's all you're doing. I mean, that's just not how I want to live my life. Does that make sense? That's.

I think that's like a very raw example of, like, a winning, losing type of individual. Not that you. I mean, some of those guys are printing. Some of those guys are printing bags, for sure.

But, I mean, how many interesting stories do you have to tell if you're a copywriter, right? Seriously, like, I mean, I can't imagine many which. Which goes back to my original point. These guys think, oh, let me just secure the bag, then I'm gonna go out in the real world and live my life.

But let me get paid first. Dude, it's the opposite. You learn everything about the Bible. You learn everything about spirituality.

You learn everything about life by living. You don't need. You don't even need books. You don't even need spirituality.

You're going to learn it by living. And these guys are doing it in reverse. And the consequences of that are going to be stark. They're just going to be.

I mean, I can sense it.

01:30:35CALLER 4

Gotcha.

01:30:49HOST

Omar, what's going on?

01:30:51CALLER 9

Hey, how's it going, bro? I appreciate it, man. So my question was, I remember a tweet that you tweeted a while back that you were like, you know, Bruce Wayne is not really Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne's actually Batman.

Something like that. Like, you have to develop an alter ego.

01:31:10HOST

So, yeah, I said. I said Bruce Wayne is the mask, right? Yeah. That Batman is not the mask.

Batman is who he really is.

01:31:21CALLER 9

Yeah.

01:31:22CALLER 7

And.

01:31:22CALLER 9

And so, like, what I'm. What I'm asking is I. I work, like, a pretty, you know, boring job. Like, my job is like, super nine to five boys, boring as.

And I only do it, obviously, to pay the bills. I make music on the side. And what I wanted to see is how can I take that right there and apply it to, I guess, my life, Because I want to just get out of the. The 9 to 5 thing and just go full time with music and just make a.

01:31:49HOST

Make a full living with it.

01:31:52CALLER 9

How could that be applied? To that,

01:31:55HOST

man, that's a good question. I mean, look, I'm not, I'm not one to sit here and bastardize and vilify anybody working a job, bro. I mean, I, I think I, I understand. You got a belly to feed.

But here's the thing. All of your free spare time outside of that job has to be towards making that dream come true. Like all of it. All of it.

You're just in that position right now. You're in a low leverage position where you don't really, you can't really tell take care of yourself if you don't have the gig. Right. So outside of that gig, you do not have time to around at all.

You got to be pulling all nighters, lack of optimization, getting in the gym, staying healthy so that you can have the stress tolerance to do what you're going to make happen, man. That's why most people, it's a battle of attrition, cannot simultaneously maintain a job and make their side passion come true. Yeah. Because it's just a very, very arduous path that you're undertaking.

It's an honorable one. Yeah, it's an honorable one. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it.

I had to slash everything but the dream to make my dream come true.

01:33:03CALLER 9

Yeah. And. And that's, I guess that's where I'm like at a tipping point. Because that's, that's kind of what I feel and I know that I, that I need to do that.

And I guess like I want.

01:33:13HOST

Well, because here's, because here's the thing, dude. No, people, men do not change unless they have to. That's just, that's just the bottom line. So until your back's actually against the wall and you have some financial pressure and if you don't perform, you're going to be out on the street.

You're not gonna make a miraculous change. It's just, I've never seen it, I've never seen it done. Necessity is the mother of all invention. It's one of my favorite quotes.

And it's, it's. I've found that parable to be very true. Men do not change unless they absolutely have to. Have to, not need to, not want to, have to, not even need to.

Have to is more powerful than need. I'll make a post about that one day. That's a whole metaphysical spiritual wormhole. We could go down.

But have to is more important than need. Because. Ha. Because half two is the obsession.

Need is breathing, eating, sleeping. Those are needs. Have to usurps need have to is what makes you a madman, lunatic. You know what I mean?

01:34:20CALLER 9

Makes a lot of sense.

01:34:33HOST

Max Ford, what's going on, buddy? Yo. A couple spaces ago a dude was talking about investing some of some money into being able to get going a ride and gamble with you. I'm curious if that's a, if that's an option still because I got, I got bags and I'm looking, looking to go on the ride.

Oh, man. Oh, that was a, that was just a off the cuff scenario, man, where I was offering in basically an opportunity for some of these guys with crypto bags to come in me, invest in my business. Especially these guys who were telling me they're desperate and bored with their careers and want to go on an adventure. And I basically told them, I was like, look, if you, if you have bags and you actually want to learn the game inside out and you want to actually work with a shark, I will show you the ropes, DM you right now and we can deploy capital, we can start running games tonight.

You can use my infrastructure, I'll fire with you, I'll put skin in the game with you. But you do have to put skin in the game if you want to learn. And I offered that to him and I offered that to plenty of other people and I got a ton of hits and then a lot of dudes were backing out. So dude, if you genuinely want to go on the ride of your life and you want to work with me in my business, yes, that opportunity is open to you.

It's a minimum $50,000 investment to make it worth our while. Minimum 50k. Not 25, not 30. 50. And if you're ready to deploy 50 right now and work with me one on one, I will fight to the death with you on these runs and I will show you how to make money in the sports betting industry.

Because my infrastructure is something that people on the planet would kill to have in my industry. It's, I've built it up over 15 years. I have an extremely vast, talented team all over the world that helps me run it. We run an arbitrage strategy and we do hedge plays.

So some of it is speculating and gambling, but most of it is extremely intelligent and systematized. So dude, if you want to come on with me, look down, make sure your balls are intact, look up, make sure there's a roof over your head and DM me, I will absolutely have you put skin in the game and I will fire right alongside you and we will get go to Valhalla together. Yeah, I'm a DM you right now. I'm ready to.

Ready to blast through that roof. All right, brother. All right, man. Yep.

Peace. Yo, Nicholas. What's up, man?

01:37:06CALLER 8

Brute.

01:37:07CALLER 1

Appreciate you putting me on, bro. Dog, I've gone down a rabbit hole with your content since last space. And from there, I'm, like, discovering Michael Porfirio and everything like that. G Mindset, bro.

There's so much dope just there. Just good opinions. But, dude, I wanted to. Well, two things.

One is I. I definitely had a question I wanted to ask you, but first thing was what you were talking about with, like, copywriters not having experience at all, dude. So I'm a copywriter, and I literally tweeted about this yesterday where I was saying, like, the reason why I write copy that just prints cash is because I have worldly experience that you can't get in a book. You can't get.

You can't get it in a course. You can't get it talking to someone. Like, you just have to experience it. And the story I told it was, I was.

We have gun shows in Arizona whenever you want to go buy a gun. And I was there once, and I had this letter I was writing for. It was some sort of male performance program, like, how to just become the best man possible, whatever, for your family and everything like that. And I was walking by this table, and it was an ammo table.

It's four guys. And, you know, just, like, your standard. Just think of, like, your conservative kind of dudes just wearing, like, you know, MAGA hats and, like, they have a shirt on. Don't tread on me, whatever the hell, you know, and they're sitting there talking with each other.

And one of these guys, he was trying to bring up the fact that he had just gotten this, like, gorgeous colt 1911. And he really wanted to bring it up in the conversation, but this other dude in that, like, little circle was just kind of socially unaware. He was. I don't know what it was, but he just couldn't understand.

That guy was trying to bring something into the conversation, and he just kept talking over him and just talking about how he has this amazing AR15 and blah, blah, whatever. The magazine clips on it, blah, blah, whatever. And so the guy tried to bring it up, like, three separate times that he got this cold 1911, and none of his friends really cared because this guy just kept talking about his AR15. And I looked at this man's face, and I could see 25 years of just depression of this has happened so, so many times to him.

This like trait of being soft spoken and not being able to like actually articulate yourself in a way where people listen to you and people like, it commands respect. I knew instantly, like that's the lead right there. So the hook on the ads and the hook on the sales and everything was like, hey, are you tired of being the man that everyone speaks over? And it just printed money, bro.

It did so well.

01:39:32HOST

Yeah, of course it did.

01:39:33CALLER 1

So like, this is what I'm talking. Because I know there's a bunch of copywriters on here and I see a couple of them that I know as well. Like you have to stop fucking reading the books and just go talk to people. I said this the other week that the best form of market research is getting a fucking Uber.

Go for an hour and just tell the guy you're with me and just talk with the guy and just sit there and like realize these are the normal people you're talking to. These people are scared of loss. They have normal insecurities. Like just pick their brain and you start to understand, oh, this is just like the standard human.

This is the person.

01:40:06HOST

Dude, dude, you touched on, you touched on something very important. The best copywriters aren't copywriters. Oh man. The best copywriters aren't copyrighted, dude.

When I wrote my, when I wrote the copy for my course, I cannot tell you how many DMS I got. People went nuts over it. They're like, dude, where did you learn to do that copy? I'm like, what the, what is copy?

I didn't learn, I didn't learn a thing, dude. I just spilled my guts on a piece. That's all I did.

01:40:29CALLER 1

Yeah, dude, it's, it's, it's, it's just being able to find the commonalities, the human experience that like everyone has. And when you sit there and like, especially when it's high performing people, like if you're writing for people that are higher net worth trying to grow, like you talk to these guys and you realize the problems are different than the lower level people, right? But at that level, the high performers, they all have the same problems. And the low level people, they all have the same problems.

And you have to be able to explain it better than they can themselves. And the best way to do that is just talk to them. I'm a master interviewer. I don't need to sit and talk to chat GPT or read or go and do any research.

Like I'm gonna just go Straight, hey, give me a lead list of all the people who've bought the product and I'll just cold call the. And hey, do you have a minute to chat real quick about the product and just ask them about their entire life right then and there like that 100.

01:41:19HOST

You just gave out a bunch of free game, bro. That hook was fire.

01:41:22CALLER 1

100. Better, better have some DMS of people being like, can you coach me? And the answer is no, I don't wanna. But dude, one thing I really wanted to ask you.

So my, my roommate, he's been on money Twitter for a lot longer than me and he was like, oh yeah, I think Brute has a kid. Is that true?

01:41:38HOST

I have a two year old son.

01:41:39CALLER 1

Okay. So I really want to talk with you about this. This is like for me the most fascinating thing is like how do you balance this edge of just wanting to like. Bro, you just want to skull the world and just dominate and crush and just go out there every single day with this like fire in your belly mentality, but then also have like the patience for like a child and being able to, to actually like raise them, be able to help them, sit down with them, explain them whatever they did wrong or whatever it is.

Like, I'm really curious to understand your mentality of how you balance being the man that you are and the man that you want to be while also being a father and what your experience as a father has been thus far. Because that's like, bro, it's the number one thing for me in my life that's my goal is just have a ton of kids.

01:42:25HOST

Yeah, man. So to answer your question, I, I don't balance it at all because yeah, I don't balance it. I. I'm just gun railing every day doing what I'm doing on my high adventures.

I. One thing that is being a father has clarified for me is that I am not a second mother. And what I mean by that is. And what I mean by that is when babies are very young, like my son is they really need their mom badly.

Like their mom is their everything. I. The quality time I spend with my son is at most because dude, I, I literally want to blow my brains out if I have to. I cannot take care of a baby all day by myself.

It's never gonna happen. It's just not my role. Like you, I'm telling you as a man, you have this natural primal barbaric instinct that comes out if you have your balls intact that you realize you are not designed to be sitting home Playing with blocks and playing with cars with your son eight hours a day, that's never going to happen. So what I do, what I do is the quality time that I spend with him one to two hours a day max, is extremely fucking value.

Because I'm fully devoted, fully present, my phone's down, I'm not fucking with anything. I look him in the eyes, we play together. That those are the moments that he's going to be appreciative. But, dude, the father cannot be sitting at home with his kids all day.

It, number one, destroys your relationship at home with a woman. And number one, you're. It's very weird. Dude.

Kids are brilliant. They know. They. They get it.

Like when I'm gone for long stretches of time and I don't see my son and I, and I do see him again, he appreciates me. He. He. They understand.

Dude, they're geniuses. These, these babies are geniuses, man.

01:44:11CALLER 1

So if I'm understanding correctly, it's that, you know, you're not trying, like what

01:44:16HOST

you said, you're not trying to be the second mom and that you're not

01:44:18CALLER 1

trying to spend all this time with him. You still cherish the time, you still love the time, but it's more about, like, you know, being able to have that time where you're. When I'm with him, I'm with him. I'm not doing anything else.

I'm with him. But it's still. You're still on the mission.

01:44:32HOST

It's just that my mission comes first. And that's ultimately where, when he. He gets older, he's going to respect and love me the most. Look, my son is, is very blessed.

He's gonna, when he gets older, he's going to be able to see my entire pantheon of work online. He's going to be able to go through my Twitter. He's going to be able to see my philosophy articulated. He's going to be able to see my manifesto.

Like, that's the greatest gift I could give to my son.

01:44:55CALLER 1

Yeah.

01:44:55HOST

Is immortalizing my work in a way where when he's older, he can thumb through and be like, oh, this is what my dad was thinking on such and such date. Like, I'm. I'm leaving him a memorial.

01:45:06CALLER 1

The random post. It's like the best thing is when someone tells you Instagram. I don't give a. About Instagram.

Like, that's what dad was thinking on that day.

01:45:14HOST

I love that 100. So I'm just building that memoriam for him, man. And it's that's going to be something really cool that he can look back on and reflect on as he gets older. But, yeah, dude, I mean, that whole thing about not being a second mom is crucial.

If you want the respect. If you want the respect, like, yeah, you get it.

01:45:34CALLER 1

I'm curious out of here. Like, is there an age that you think you're gonna start spending more time with him? Like, when do you think those talks? Obviously not at 2, because you can't understand it now, but when do you think those talks of, like, son, let me show you how the world works.

Like, is there an age where you think that time is gonna really come, or is it just kind of.

01:45:51HOST

I don't know.

01:45:51CALLER 1

I'll figure it out when it happens.

01:45:52HOST

No, no, definitely. So. So I see myself as his teacher in the sense that I would never put my child in a public school. So I'm going to homeschool him for sure.

So when he's about 4 or 5, that's when I'm really going to dedicate a massive chunk of my time to teaching him what a teacher would teach him. But I'm going to use my own parables and my own lessons, and I'm just going to sort of incorporate and just go on the fly and just use my own life experience to teach him. And I think that's going to be more valuable than anything, anything else. 100. Because I am, dude.

I am ready and prepared to allocate as much time as possible to teaching him the right way. So I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna homeschool myself.

01:46:31CALLER 1

Dude, that's so great. Yeah, you have them. You'll have a brute divorce class. Tweets.

Read my tweets out loud.

01:46:39HOST

He'll be on Twitter when he's 8.

01:46:43CALLER 1

Same profile pic, too.

01:46:44HOST

Same profile pic. You'll have the Mohawk, too. Oh, man, I appreciate it.

01:46:48CALLER 1

I'm gonna let. I'll let someone else go, but, bro, I love these spaces so much. It's so good to just hear this information and absorb it genuinely. Dude, like, there's some stuff.

I read it. I'm like, I don't know if I agree on that. And then I'll just sit there like, why. Why don't you just question yourself and try and figure out, why don't you agree with him on that?

And it's been a very interesting thought experiment. So I appreciate you, man.

01:47:08HOST

Thank you for doing what you do, man. Yep. Take care. What's up, cam?

Yo, cam, you on, Cam? Let's get Our boy Barry Cooper up here. Barry, you. What's up, man?

What's up? What's up, brother? How you doing?

01:47:43CALLER 11

Can't complain. Just another night.

01:47:45CALLER 10

How are you?

01:47:47HOST

Great, bro. Talk to us.

01:47:48CALLER 11

So actually I wanted to bounce off Nicholas, the copywriter who was just on. And it's about raising kids as well. I was wondering what your philosophy was for, like in very general, raising your kid in a way that I feel like part of, like who I became, who I was, was because I was a rebel. My parents wanted me on a strict path, so I was always rebelling, trying to do things my way.

And the pain that came from the discipline that kind of shaped me into who I was today. But when I think about raising kids, I want them to kind of go their own path. So I want to treat, kind of treat them like a cat. I want to give them the philosophy that like certain principles and I want them to go their own way.

But I also want to give them some sort of hardship. So I was wondering if you could like kind of bounce off that, like, if you had any thoughts.

01:48:43HOST

Yeah, dude, the hardship I think is absolutely key. I've rest. I've wrestled with this back and forth. There's a couple different varying philosophies on this.

I really do like the philosophy of dying poor. And basically, like, if my son turns out to be the type of guy who can't create his own wealth, then he's not going to be able to manage the wealth that I give him anyway. That's just sort of how I see it. So I absolutely want to unobstruct and give him an uninhibited path towards his own journey.

Like, I did not have a child to make a clone of myself. I, I am fully aware that I had a child so that he could have his own unique experience. And I do want to foster that ethic. I do not want him to be like me.

There's obviously qualities that he's going to take from me. I get that. But the central point, man, is like the hardship thing I think does have to be interwoven. Like there's certain things that are non negotiable for me.

Like he'll probably have a nice Whip when he's 16 for sure, just for safety reasons and I'm not gonna get him a beater. But besides that, man, like I 100 want him to be out there scrapping. 100, because that's how I learned. Look, I come from a single mother household and it was the greatest thing that ever happened to me. Because I had my rose tinted glasses crushed very early on, I understood the, the reality of how relationships work between men and women.

And I feel like there's some seeds, man, you just bury and they're just gonna grow regardless. Like, there's some forces of nature that are just born on this earth. No matter how shitty their circumstances, no matter how broken their home was, they just find a way to transcend and adapt. And I, I, I'm not saying that I particularly want that experience for my son.

I'm just saying I, I came to this conclusion the other day. I was articulating this to a buddy of mine and I was like, look, he's like, well, what if you're, you know, what if you and your girl just, you know, go your separate ways and he comes from a fractured home? And I was like, look, he has my genes. Like, he has my genes coursing through his exoskeleton.

He's gonna be fine. He's gonna be fine. Like, that's where I get most of my assurance. That's how I sleep good at night.

It's just, I know my son has my genes. I know he's gonna be a warrior. I know he's gonna be a fighter. And I know no matter what life throws at him, he's gonna figure out his own way so I don't have to intervene and play God in that process.

That just brings me a great deal of peace.

01:51:18CALLER 10

Okay.

01:51:19CALLER 11

Okay.

01:51:19HOST

Like, like, dude. Also, like, so I'm kind of conflicted on this. Like, I'm gonna do homeschooling for sure. But there's a part of me that does think the public school system is good for one reason, and that's that it's a very chaotic environment.

There's a lot of different personalities and there's bullying, there's all sorts of that goes on in those environments. And I do think those environments are good in the sense that it would prove to me that my son is as strong as I think he's going to be if he could brave that environment and come out of a very chaotic, disordered look, even the information in those schools is trash that are poisoning the kids minds. They're fucking teaching them about LGBT shit, like all that shit's nonsense. But that was subjected on to me, right?

I was subjected to a ton of garbage in school. We learn a completely wrong version of history. Everything I learned was, and it didn't stop me in my tracks. I found a way to overcome.

I found a way to become self educated. I found a Way to sift through the. Because I was a force of nature to be reckoned with. And I.

I just have the faith that I had that type of child. And if I didn't, I don't even think I'll be disappointed because I. Ultimately, man, like, I put my entire philosophy on the altar of nature. I think nature is God.

I love the natural order of life, and I do believe that the strong will survive. I believe the strong will survive no matter what kind of toxic toxicity. Mentally, no matter what kind of shitty. Dude.

I had the worst programming, the worst mental programming you could possibly fathom as a youngster. Like, statistically, I should be dead. I shouldn't be where I'm at right now, statistically. But I just adapted and overcame.

And so, like, a part of me wants to throw him in a public school for a couple years just to see how durable he is and if he can figure out his own way and detect what's and what's not. A part of me really does want to give him that experience because it was very powerful for me, even though it was a mistake, you know, like, mine was an accident. My parents put me through that, and it was a complete accident. But none of the propaganda stuck.

None of it stuck. I knew it was when I was sitting in algebra class. I knew what I was learning was nonsense. Yep.

01:53:50CALLER 11

It's like that. It's like that middle ground where you want to give them resources to strive, but you don't want to hand everything to them, but you also want them to throw them in the arena and, like, describe it. But it's like, kind of, I want him to.

01:54:03HOST

I want him to play the game. And when he's on a schoolyard, you know, with a bunch of other kids who come from different races and creeds and denominations, that's playing the game. That's playing the game. And so I don't want to rob him of that experience.

So a part of me most likely will probably make a move like that at some point. I'm just gonna have to, because I have to know that he's. I have to test his metal. I can't.

What I won't do, dude, is Molly Coddle my child. That's what I won't do.

01:54:35CALLER 11

100. Yeah, I definitely agree.

01:54:37HOST

It's a great, great question, bro.

01:54:40CALLER 7

Yep.

01:54:40CALLER 11

Thank you for hosting these.

01:54:42HOST

Yep. Take care, brother. Let's get Iron Will up here. Hey, Brew, how you doing?

What's up, bro?

01:55:02CALLER 12

Quick question based on, you know, what you're talking about before, in terms of Relationships, do you think, or in a sense, how would you define friendship in terms of. Is it acquaintances, a sphere of influence, or is it, you know, people you just bullshit with?

01:55:20HOST

Man, that's a great question. So friendships. I do believe in the ethic that everybody has to pull their own weight. In other words, I cannot be friends with somebody who.

Who cannot pull the same kind of weight I can pull. Does that make sense, whether it's even financially? Like, if there's a. There's a common theme in successful circles.

People. People who have money do not like being friends with people who don't have money because they pull everybody down. Sounds shallow on the surface, but it's not. Once you dig deeper, I believe that every friend sort of has a responsibility to kind of toe the tide, you know, and, like, you have to have people that are very, very, very cut from a similar cloth of yourself.

Like, it's. It's very hard to step down socioeconomically and be true friends with somebody long term. It's tough. It's tough.

Not saying you can't shoot the. Not saying you can't crack a cigarette and have a amazing conversation. Of course you can, but that's more of an acquaintance. The people that I'm willing to die for are people that are at a reasonable level of talent that stands similar to my own.

If that makes sense.

01:56:30CALLER 12

Definitely does. In terms of, you know, other relationships, let's say women, I think in a lot of senses, especially with a lot of friends, it starts off as tabula raza. Do you think when it comes to women and those things, do you. Do you build that up through detail and, you know, really writing down everything that needs to be done?

Or do you think it's more inherent towards just the man that you are?

01:56:55HOST

Towards the man that you are? I've never had. So it's by example. Women can clearly see that I have a very strong, robust physique.

I'm healthy. My eyes are my, you know, my eyes are egg white. I'm just like, my hair is healthy. I'm a portrait of health.

Okay? Every. Every woman I have ever dated going back maybe 16, 17 years, has always, without me, prompting them, replicated my diet to a T. They start eating carnivore.

They stop drinking. They stop eating fried foods. They want to eat, and they want to comport their lifestyle to very, very closely mimic my own. They start sitting out in the sun with me.

They were scared of the sun before. Like, they. A woman will 100 mirror you to a T. If.

If your leadership is strong. Like, I'll give you a great example. This is my greatest metric when people come to me with relationship problems. And it's a very simple one.

It's a very simple one. If your woman, from my perspective, does not follow you on, on your lifestyle stuff, it's not a relationship that's going to last. Because, because the respect isn't there, doesn't mean, doesn't mean she doesn't have her own hobbies. That's nuanced.

Right. She. There's certain she's going to do on her own. But the core lifestyle should 100 be.

Be, you know, mimicked without you prompting it. Like, I've never had to tell them to eat healthier. They just start eating what I eat. And then, and then it's.

Dude, it's hilarious. We'll be at restaurants and they'll be educating the server on what kind of oils they don't want. They'll be like, they'll be literally be sounding like me when they talk about food. And, and it's hilarious.

That's, that's just kind of the best barometer, dude, is like, is your woman actually following your footsteps because she sees what you're doing is so effective?

01:58:48CALLER 12

Absolutely. And touching on that, could you touch real quick on, on what your diet's like right now?

01:58:54HOST

Yeah. So I'm on steak and eggs every morning right now. I, I do like a hanger or like a flank steak. I do about 12 eggs.

I don't, I don't do rod. I scramble them. Sometimes I do poached. Then I go work out.

I skip lunch and then I just eat a massive dinner, which is basically just like unlimited steak, pork. Sometimes I'll do raw cheese, raw milk. But yeah, dude, I mean, I'm pretty much heavy carnivore. Actually.

I've been adding in skinless potatoes lately because I've been, I've been training like a monster lately because I want to snatch 300 pounds again.

01:59:30CALLER 12

And so you find like, having a lack of carbs doesn't really affect you in the gym?

01:59:35HOST

Honestly, no. Because when I'm strict carnivore and I don't have carbs, I am about 80 fat. I'm eating really, really fatty beef. That's crazy.

Yeah, it's crazy. So if you don't have carbs, you have to up the, out of the fats in order to get the energy. I feel great. I mean, dude, I, I lifted big, big ass weight for years with no carbs.

Yeah, I've been running those. I noticed When I add in any carbs at all, even potatoes, my joints hurt a little bit for sure. There's some inflammation there on some of that glucose. Like I'm pretty sense I'm pretty sensitive to sugar.

So like any sugar that I consume at all, I'll definitely, after a hard lifting session, I'll feel some aches and pains and in my joints. But if I, if I stay strict carnivore, my systemic inflammation is so low that I actually don't feel any pain at all, dude. And it's right away my body's so sensitive because my insulin sensitivity is so good because, because I'm healthy. As soon as I eat a potato, like two hours later I'll notice like my lower back has like a pang in it or some.

Yeah, yeah. Just instant inflammation.

02:00:42CALLER 12

And final question, in terms of books I know you, you've touched a little bit on kind of the, the ones that have changed you the most. I'm getting through Atlas Shrugged right now, which I feel like mimics a lot of things that you say. You have any deep recommendations?

02:00:56HOST

Yeah, Ayn Rand is amazing, dude. I, I with her philosophy. Big. I don't know, dude.

Camille. Polly has some really interesting too. I would get into her, she's good. I don't know, dude.

I've read all that. I've read Dostoevsky, Tolstoy. Never really got into the French existentialist. The Germans are good.

Nietzsche. I'm just, I don't know, man. I've, I, I was in the library for many years just, just picking up random books and I would just devour them. I actually really like a lot of Richard Dawkins.

02:01:33CALLER 12

Yeah, those books are dense as.

02:01:34HOST

I'll check that out. Climbing Mountain Probable is a phenomenal book. There's another really obscure book that's really old called a Rabor. It means against the grain.

It's by a guy named J.K. huisman. That's a really heady book. And if you really want like a heady book, you read Moby Dick. Moby Dick is the American Iliad.

And I'll tell you, like, most people that read Moby Dick get eliminated within the first 20 pages because it's so dense and the references, the references are so absurd that you actually do have to look them up. That guy was a genius Melville. But yeah, dude, Moby Dick was a. Was actually probably the best book I've ever read.

Just from a syntax, from a syntax perspective. The way that guy structured sentences. He invented words. There's a lot of Portmanteaus in there.

Just a beautiful work of art. Trying to think of some other ones, man. Iliad is a must read. The Iliad is a.

The Iliad is a must read. Must read. It's got the entire masculine ethos is. Is all within the pages of that book.

And then, I mean, yeah, man, you're gonna have to cut mine when mine comes out.

02:02:48CALLER 9

Absolutely.

02:02:49CALLER 12

That's on the list for sure. I appreciate it.

02:03:13HOST

Yo, william. William. What's up, baby? Guys, my.

If you. If. If you seriously. If you are a crypto investor and you want to work with me, DM me right now.

Is it risky? Yes. Do you need a risk appetite? Yes.

Is it dangerous? Yes. Will I rock with you until the bitter end and use my resources to help you? Yes.

DM me immediately. If you want to come along a very crazy journey that might be foreign to you, if you want to step into no man's land and try something new, I do think it'll be a very educational real world experience where I will put you in the crucible and make you put skin in the game alongside myself. And if you want to transform and you want to evolve, do not hesitate. DM me.

I will work with you directly. Get Tyler on. Yo, tyler. Tyler.

02:04:42CALLER 7

Hey, can you hear me?

02:04:44HOST

Yep. What's up, brother? Hey, sorry, I was on.

02:04:46CALLER 7

I was on mute there. I don't know why it automatically puts me on mute.

02:04:49HOST

Yes.

02:04:49CALLER 7

Quick, quick question for you, brother.

02:04:51CALLER 1

So I've.

02:04:51CALLER 7

I've been, you know, like some other guys have said before, I've been listening to all your spaces, following your tweets and everything. Love the philosophy, love the fire.

02:04:59HOST

Just wanna, just wanna.

02:05:01CALLER 7

Just, you know, be straightforward with my stuff. I've. I've usually played it safe in life, whether it was business, work, you know, et cetera, et cetera. I guess.

What would, what would be the one. One thing above all else if you wanted to stop playing it safe and really just grab life by the balls? Kind of like how you do.

02:05:23HOST

Give me, give me more examples of how you're playing it safe. Like afraid to spend.

02:05:28CALLER 7

I would say that. I would say afraid to spend. It would. Would definitely be one.

Maybe you get the, you know, maybe you get the Hyundai Elantra instead of the, the Rolls Royce like you do. You know, something like that.

02:05:40HOST

Yeah, man. I mean, look, financial pressure is the greatest mechanism in the current society where a man can grow. Financial pressure is where a man is going to find out who he is very quickly. So what I would say, and this is again, sort of A more dangerous philosophy, you could say.

But it's. I promise you, numbers won't kill you, bro. Numbers. Numbers will not kill you.

I would take on more financial responsibility and take on more financial burdens, but because it forces you to not only earn more money, but it forces you to really analyze these things that are holding you back. Like, there's nothing wrong with putting more on your plate and taking on more responsibility and making yourself very uncomfortable. Because primates love a good scrap. And when your back is against the wall, you're going to go for the jugular.

And that's how it should be.

02:06:31CALLER 7

Gotcha.

02:06:31HOST

So take on more. Take on more financial pressure, bro. Go get. Acquire some assets.

Spend. Spend some money that makes you uncomfortable. And then sit with that for a second and then understand that you're going to be furious to reclaim what you just lost. And then maybe it'll put you, whip you up into a frenzy and you'll turn into sort of a berserker and you'll go get a side income or maybe you'll build a bigger business.

Whatever it is, dude, you never, ever, ever will evolve or change until you put pressure on yourself. Yourself. And unfortunately, we live in a society where no one's going to do it for you. You have to orchestrate these things yourself.

You have to, you have to subject yourself to it. Because society is so easy. We have all the technology, dude. Like, you're never really gonna die in this world if you fail.

You're just really not right.

02:07:23CALLER 7

I think it's, I think it's just you have, you know, you get set in certain routines. You get comfortable. I think that's really the main word. You get comfortable.

And it's like, you got to find a way to like, lit a fire up on your ass and go put that pressure on yourself. Kind of like what you said, I guess. How would you, how would you go about that?

02:07:41HOST

Well, you're, you're, you're. You want to be tested right now, is what you're telling me. You're a man who has not really tested your limits or capabilities. So you're, you're sort of.

You're sort of wrestling with the fact that you really don't know who you are because you, you don't really know who, you don't really know who you would become if you put yourself in a very high pressure situation. See, here's the thing. Most people will not take a huge leap of faith or take a huge risk in life, not because they're afraid if they fail they're going to starve to death or die, or how am I going to pay my bills? None of that.

None of that truly matters. When it comes down to it, what people are afraid of is who do I now have to become to get myself out, out of the situation that I'm in? That's what. That's what's scary as who am I gonna become?

You might come out of the other side of that pressure a completely different version of yourself that has been previously unknown to you. You might develop characteristics and fangs that you didn't even know you had. And that's extremely terrifying for most men. That's why they don't go after their dreams.

Because who the are you gonna be on the other side? You don't know until you get there, right? So you don't know.

02:08:49CALLER 7

Like, the. It's the uncertainty of it.

02:08:52HOST

Of course. You have no clue because you have no clue the kind of man you're gonna have to be to rise to that call. Because you're gonna have to change. If you.

If I put a ton of pressure on you right now, a ton of it. And I tell you, listen, if you don't come up with. If you don't build a business by tomorrow and get something up and get a sale on a call, right, in two days, you're gonna be. You're gonna be on the street, right?

How fast do you think you're gonna make that first sale? Right?

02:09:15CALLER 7

Right.

02:09:15CALLER 5

It's like, I almost.

02:09:16HOST

I guarantee you will.

02:09:17CALLER 7

I almost wish, like, you know, I used to be in a sales job and I used to. We used to have this joke. Like, I wish somebody would come, like, into your room each day, put a gun to your head and be like, listen, like, if you don't get a. If you don't get a sale, if you don't close the deal, I'm coming back.

You know, it's like you almost need that.

02:09:33HOST

Exactly, exactly. And winners do have that proverbial gun at their head every day. That's why they're so. That's why they're so good, because losing is so miserable and feels so terrible to them.

But they. They have no choice. They have to stay ahead of the game every day because they just. They hate being average that much.

02:09:52CALLER 7

Right, Right. And now one other thing with that.

02:09:55HOST

Do you.

02:09:55CALLER 7

So when you say hate being average that much, is that something that you think every man or every person is. That's an innate characteristic? Or do you think it's just some people have, Some people don't No, I

02:10:08HOST

think all men, if you ask any man on a survey, I think every single man would say that they hate being average, for sure. What happens is, is I think guys get. Guys don't really do what I'm telling you to do. They don't put enough pressure on themselves.

And then what happens is they fall into these packs of other men that are also average, and they feel comfortable there because they're. There's invisibility there. Like, you're not really gonna ruffle any feathers. No one's really gonna trample on you.

You're. If you're in a big pack of guys when you're out, you're not really going to get into a fight. You're not really going to get chicks either, but you're. At least you're safe because you're just within.

You're within.

02:10:47CALLER 10

You're within your.

02:10:48HOST

In group.

02:10:48CALLER 10

Right.

02:10:49HOST

You know what I mean? I think so. I think most guys kind of fall when they. When they give up on life.

They become invisible. They just want to be invisible. They don't want to step on anybody's toes, but they don't want their toes stepped on either. And they don't want to be in the hot seat.

02:11:04CALLER 7

Right.

02:11:06HOST

They don't want to be accountable to anybody, and they just kind of give up. And that's their life. Pretty much their life story kind of ends there. So.

Dude, it's. It's all pressure, man. It's. Everything is pressure.

Everything is pressure for a man. It's all pressure, dude. There are guys, before your morning coffee is done being brewed that have to get on 10 hysterical, nasty, nauseating phone calls. Businesses are blowing up, nasty divorces, cars are being repoed.

They're getting this house foreclosed on. And guess what? Before you've even taken a sip of coffee, these have extinguished five fires.

02:11:44CALLER 7

Yeah.

02:11:45HOST

And they're. And they're in the game and their guns blazing, and they're finding a way to be happy, and they're carving out happiness for themselves because they're winners and they know they're going to be okay. They know they're going to be okay even though everything's falling apart. But that's the pressure that makes them respond.

They wake up every day, they're alive. They have the fire burning in their heart because they have a bunch of fires to put out. That's why I've always said if you're a guy in the position that you're in, dude, you have to start some fires. You have to start some fires, ignite some fires.

Because guess what a fire is. A fire draws attention. Then all of a sudden, you're trying to put out the fire. Then guess what?

You got loved ones. You got family. You got friends you can recruit to help you put out that fire. Now you got a.

Now you got a business because you got a team. Now other people are interested in helping you put out the fire. So you gotta start some fires, dude. You got to be an arsonist.

You know, metaphorically, like, you got to be an arsonist. You gotta start some fires, and then that's gonna light. That's gonna just kick you in a completely different gear, and you will be of kind, become an entirely different man.

02:12:46CALLER 7

Good. Thanks, bro. Appreciate it. And, hey, when's the.

When's the book coming out, dude?

02:12:52HOST

I'm, like, halfway done right now. I would say probably by summer. I want to do it right, man, because it's going to be a manifesto.

02:13:04CALLER 7

I'm sure it will. Appreciate your time, man.

02:13:07HOST

Yep. Take care.

02:13:08CALLER 7

Take care.

02:13:12HOST

All right, guys, I'm going to close out. It's been an absolute pleasure.