The underbelly of long term relationships

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Hold on. This little Sunday matinee, I gotta roll three or four more cigs. Give you 32nd. All right, the Sunday matinee is in session.

I think this is a very, very controversial topic. There's a lot of preconceived notions as to the function of a long term relationship with a woman. How that looks, how it operates, how it functions, how the forces of nature are obviously at play between the sexes. And this is going to be.

I'm going to debunk a lot of rhetoric this morning. I'll give you a personal backstory. I have only really been in long term relationships with women very successfully. All of my relationships have lasted four to five years.

I was married for six years. Any woman that I've ever had sex with, I have always had the option to make her my girl. So I've never struggled in this department. I've always had the open lane to take it serious.

And any woman that I've ever had sex with, this is my personal preference. Like I will. I would never fuck a chicken if I did not mind having children with her. So I was, you know, I'm a gambler.

I was always willing to take that risk. I was always willing to impregnate any chick that I have fucked because I only sleep with women that I would not give a flying if I had kids with. And that's just my genetic preference. So that's how I approach life.

That's how I approach women. For me, it's never been casual. I always find genetic winners and I do my thing from there. Now, one thing you have to understand, let's get a fundamental premise out of the way right now, is that women, women fundamentally the only thing they want, if you could summarize it, is they don't want to be better than you at anything.

It's what a woman truly wants. In order for a woman to be fully unrestrained and give you the entirety of her love, she has to know for sure that she ain't better than you at fucking nothing. And that's why early on, when you're in a relationship with a woman, they love to do activities, right? They want to do dumb fun bowling, they want to go play mini golf.

They like to do activities. Because what they're doing when they take you into those endeavors is they're looking to see if you're gonna obliterate them in those activities. And that's what they want. They want full annihilation when they play games with you.

Do you understand? When a woman wants to play chess to blow off some steam or just to have some fun. I don't give a fuck if it's Connect 4. I don't give a fuck if you're playing Monopoly.

She wants utter and total annihilation in those games particular, particularly any mind game. Scrabble can never let a woman beat you in any competitive endeavor that you do with a woman. She does not want you to win, period. The end.

Does not want that, wants to be smashed. That's fundamental. So she's doing activities and she's looking, is this guy fucking athletic? Is he a better fucking player than me?

Is he mentally sharper than me? That's how they start to sort of pave the ground with you and kind of ascertain what your talent is, what your skills are, how competitive you are. And then once you start to destroy her in, in those activities, she starts to surrender a little bit more of herself. It's very incremental.

It's very gradual. Now, when it comes to arguments, okay, the stoics do not win. I want you to understand that the stoic personality is antiquated. It's obsolete.

It doesn't work in the modern climate whatsoever. Maybe in the 1950s, the classical tough guy who let everything fly off his shoulders and sat there like a ice statue, like an ice sculpture in the midst of chaos. Maybe there was a time and a place for that. But those days are long dead and gone.

Those days are long dead and gone. And the man, the men who are cleaning up and the men who are taking over households, the men who are actually reconstructing women, the real heroes that are reconstructing women from the ground up, you know what I mean? And building them back like Humpty Dumpty. They're the men who are crazier than their women.

You have to understand the modern woman, the modern woman, what she wants above anything else is she wants to know that you are crazier than her, that you can out psycho the psycho, okay? This is very, very, very important. Your woman needs to know that no matter how off her rocker she is, you're more off your rocker than she is. And this is fundamental.

And the way that this manifests is in arguments and fighting. And I believe this is the battleground. This is where love is 1 won, love is scored. And love is won in arguments and in fights, because that's where the growth happens.

And that's where the outpouring of the darkness in each other comes forward. And that's where true bonding lies. There has to be disagreements. There has to Be territory that gets seeded.

Do you understand these, these, these vanilla relationships, these dreamlike relationships that everyone paints on Twitter of relationships where there is zero arguing, zero fighting, everything's flowing perfectly. Those relationships are rotting from the inside out because there's no growth there whatsoever. There has to be a clashing of horns. Do you understand?

With women, you do have to lock horns in the beginning. Your antlers, your antlers have to smash together at certain points because this is where you know who each other really is. And it's the only way to do it. So disagreements are an essential component to having a long term relationship because this is where a woman really, really understands if she can actually give you her full devotion, loyalty and love.

And let me tell you something. The way that men experience pain and suffering in our own way, the way that women experience pain and suffering is in a different. A different ball game. And it's, it's in the form of love.

When a woman falls in love with a man, it's excruciatingly painful for her. Excruciating. It's, it's almost the equivalent of the pain of giving birth to a child. It's a full bodily experience of her being broken, breaking herself and being put back together many, many, many, many, many times.

And that's how it works. And so when you're in these huge arguments with women, the guy who clasps his hands and sits there and stares into the abyss and pretends like he's just gonna ride out the storm, and she's, she's berating him in his ear and she's flipping out and she's screaming and yelling and he's just sitting there like a ice sculpture, just absorbing it. That's not an attractive man at all. Because a woman wants to know that you have more energy and intensity than her.

The intense always win in relationships. They do. They always win. Because a woman wants to know that she can't exhaust you.

She can't wear you down. It's the opposite. Your, your role in a long term relationship is to wear her down. It's to exhaust her.

Because in exhaustion, in severe states of fatigue and exhaustion, that's when a woman gives more and more, she gives up more of herself to you. And this is the dark underbelly that nobody wants to discuss. But we're talking about mother nature here, right? We're not talking about.

This is not an intentionally malicious thing. This is mother Nature. You know what I mean? And women are nature.

So they're very capricious and they're very they flip flop, they have very, very large swings, you know what I'm saying? So, like, let me give you an example. If a woman wants to instigate a little argument, and they do this often because obviously it feeds drama and obviously there's, there's a lot of testing that goes on here, right? It's a stress test.

Women are always looking to look at the tensile strength of their man. Is he gonna break, is he gonna snap, et cetera. When I'm in an argument with a woman, you have to have a lot of joy in life. Like you have to be a gamer, you have to love the game of life so much to even enter a long term relationship with a woman, because you have to see everything as a good time.

You have to see everything as, as fun, even the arguments, even the, the most painful moments with your woman. You have to enjoy it. You have to have a sick pleasure towards exploring these boundaries in the relationship. And if you don't have a zest for life and you don't have a huge gas tank of energy, it's going to be very difficult to survive these fights.

And like I said, these fights, really what you're doing is you're bartering. This is where you barter for love, you know what I mean? And this is where a lot of guys lose ground and they end up seeding territory and they get an embargo, they get a love embargo placed on them because they don't have the energy to stay in the game. Now this is how it looks, okay?

Man's got a very busy life. Let's say you're putting out fires, you got business problems, you work from home, you got phone calls to take, you got a lot of stuff going on in your personal life. When you get into an argument with a woman during the midst of a typical business day, you have to be a jack of all trades. You have to be a renaissance man.

You have to have the energy and the capacity to deal with her while you're dealing with your business. You have to do it all together. So you will. I will literally be in an argument with my girl and I will pause the argument to take a call.

I'm handling business. Boom. Call ends, I get right back in the room. Boom.

Going at it again. You know what I mean? I'm hungry. Fuck.

I'll fucking go crack some eggs in the pan. Still fucking arguing. I'll go fucking clip my toenails in the middle of a fucking argument. I'm just moving recklessly, carrying on my fucking Day in the middle of the argument and I'm fucking juggling everything.

I got the world on my shoulders, everything's fucking smashing me down. Feels like I'm squatting 500 pounds on my back. But I love. I love the game.

So if a woman's coming at me because she wants attention or there's some sort of subtext that's going on, because that's pretty much what every fight with a woman begins, as every fight with a woman begins is her. The reason why a woman tells you she's fighting with you is never the real reason. Reason. There's always something that hasn't been addressed.

There's some kind of resentment, something looming in the background, and she needs to vent and she needs that outlet, right? So she's gonna put all her on your shoulders. And that's. That's honestly a woman's job.

A woman's job in a relationship in certain aspects, is to make your life more difficult. Because that's actually what keeps your razor blades super sharp. Super sharp. And you'll know this if you've ever had a very big day ahead of you.

Let's say you have some sort of presentation, or she just knows there's a very important life event happening. That's usually the morning when a woman will wake up with you. And this is true if she loves you the most. When a woman loves you the most, she's gonna add one more brick to the pile of bricks that's already on your shoulder just to see if she can topple you, just to see if your knees are going to give out.

And I don't. I don't look at that as an evil thing at all. I don't look at that as malicious. I look at that as a woman's always trying to see if she can make you stronger.

And it's just that simple. So one of my favorite things to do, if a woman is completely out of line and she's starting fights over stuff that she's unjustified to start fights for, then I just start going non sequitur. I throw logic completely out the window. She'll be badgering, she'll be going off going ballistic, screaming, yelling.

And I'll just start going, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. That's a. That's a great point. You know what?

That is one of the best points I've ever heard. I am a Greek God. I'm a Greek God. You're right.

I'm a Greek God. Makes zero sense. I'll just start saying, like, that just to throw a wrench in the cog of the machine. You know what I mean?

Just to let her know I. Look, I know everything you're saying is right now because you just want to get it off your chest. So I'm just gonna have a good time with it. Yeah, of course.

You're right, baby. I am a Greek God. You're 100 accurate. I cannot believe you just came to this conclusion.

I'm a Greek God. Non sequitur. Makes zero sense for the context, but it does its job because I'm basically backing her up and saying, look, I know we both know right now that this is all bullshit, and we both don't want to come out right and say it, so let's just have a little mental spar. Let's mentally spar.

And we can do this all afternoon, depending on how long she's going. Depending on how long she just wants to go off. You know, an hour will go by. I'll look down at my phone, I'll look at the clock, and I'll be like, baby girl, I'm not even breaking a sweat.

You want to go another six hours? I'm ready. Because if you start a fight, I'm going to finish the fight. And I tell her that.

I always tell her that. I'm like, if you start a fight, I want you to fully comprehend that I have zero issues finishing it, because I don't. I'll dance all day if we have to. I want you to get it out.

Purge it. Purge it. Keep going. Keep going.

We'll have a good time with it. You know what I mean? And you really, really know. You really start to see the cracks in the armor when a woman is enraged about something and she starts to crack a smile because you're just being a fucking jackal the whole time.

You know what I mean? You're just not taking it seriously. And you know what's funny about this? This sort of dramatic clashing where you're kind of mouthing back off to her and shit.

That's actually the road to true stoicism, by the way, because we all know the true path to stoicism is to travel the complete opposite road. So by me battling and by me willing to insert myself and interdict in the middle of the fight, I'm essentially establishing the fact that I am unfazed and I am so ready to take this all the way with you, that you can trust me. And it's like. It's kind of like catching a marlin.

It's Kind of like fishing for marlin. Because the idea is, is that after a couple hours, she's gonna get so fucking tired. And because you love the game of life, because you fundamentally love the game of life so much, you're energized by the fighting. It's just gonna fucking put some more fucking pep in your stuff.

It's gonna give you more fucking thunder to play with. And that's how I look at every argument. If I'm dead tired and there's an argument that needs to take place because we need to resolve something, it's incredible, the gust of wind that'll float under my wings. I could jump up out of bed.

I don't give a how tired I am. If my eyes are half closed. I'm ready to jump into any kind of conversation or communication with a woman. And the irony is this, these types of arguments and these.

This sort of battling in the home, it leads to a platform of communication. It's a lot. It actually is a lot healthier than couples who don't challenge each other and couples who never have arguments or disagreements because everyone wants to just wear the mask and pretend like everything's peachy. That is way more unhealthy because there's growth in the communication.

And so while you're fighting and arguing, you're actually laying down a platform for honesty where you can both get things off your chest in, in a forum where, yeah, it's hostile and contentious, but you're talking, you know what I mean? And that's, that's sort of a symptom that your relationship is always going well, is when a woman wants to speak to you often and get things offered chest to you directly. Because women that are not in love with you, they will go to their girlfriends, they will, they will talk behind your back, and they won't tell you directly what their beefs are. So if a woman is always coming to you directly with some kind of beef or some kind of strife that she wants to resolve, that's a great sign because the lines of communication are still open.

And every time one of these battles happens, you want her to be the one to tap out. She's the one who always has to surrender. She gets so fed up. She's like, I just can't break this guy.

He's willing to just be in this with me all day. He's still handling business. He's still, he's still making money. He's juggling his entire life while we're in the middle of this fight.

And she's eventually just gonna lay down her weapons. That's what happens. She's gonna disarm herself and be like, I just, I can't, I can't rattle him. I can't break them.

You know what I mean? And you can, you can take this as obnoxious as you want to. You can get as obnoxious depending on, depending on the source. Like if this is just a dramatic fight that she's starting out of the blue because she wants attention and like I said, it's unjustified.

You can get as obnoxious as it is. You want just to hold your frame, you know what I mean? Like you, I'll be in my M5. She's standing outside my window hollering.

Every time she goes to say a word, I'll just rev the engine. She'll go to speak.

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Boom.

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I revved the engine. She'll go to talk again. I revved the engine. Then I cup my hands over my ear and I make that expression.

I'm like, I can't hear you. What are you, what are you saying? She'll talk again. Boom.

Rev the engine, talk again. Boom. Rev the engine. You know what I mean?

Like, you're just, you're crazier than her. You're crazier than her. You wanna. This is the whole, this is the central component to life, by the way, because business, sales and women are completely related.

If you are a phenomenal salesman, you're good with winning, period. The end. So this mentality of wanting to win so bad in business and being unwilling to ever surrender, it carries over to your relationships with women. It's a, it's seamlessly dovetails, it's perfect.

And all you're doing is you're sharpening that winner's attitude. Like, I'm just never gonna let her win, ever. You're never winning. You're never gonna exhaust me.

You're never gonna tear me down, you're never going to break me. My knees ain't ever buckling. It's never happening. And let's just battle.

Fucking. We can battle for 72 straight hours and I'm going to have a blast with it. I'm going to be laughing, I'm going to be joking. Sometimes I'm going to raise my voice.

I'm going to take you through the whole fucking range of emotions because that's exactly what you want. And this is why I tell you, being in a long term relationship is not for the faint of heart. It's really, really brutal. It's tough.

It's tough. But here's the thing. These women, when they go through enough of these experiences with you and they finally come to the conclusion that you have way more intensity than them, you have way more fire than them, you're wittier than them, you're never laying down your weapons, they just stop trying. It comes to a point where you have utter bliss and love and peace in your house until the next one.

And this is the ebb and flow cycle. You know what I mean? And then, you know, a week will go by, you have the most perfect, behaved woman you've ever seen in your entire life. And she's growing closer to you and she's giving you more love and she's fully surrendered because she trusts you.

She trusts that she has a man who can operate this big gigantic life, run a household, take care of her, love and protect her. But here's the secret behind all this, right? This kind of investment that I'm talking about, of willing to go toe to toe all the fucking time in these discussions. It has to be underpinned by the true desire that this is actually a woman that you want to stand by and love and protect.

And if you don't have that linchpin, then it's a huge waste of time. So I would only get into these kind of conflicts with women if I genuinely know, at the end of the day, this is someone I'm going to protect and I'm going to take care of her no matter what, because she shows me the loyalty and she fucking respects my boundaries. But as far as the communication is concerned, in order to truly establish that, that full love in a woman, it's very. It's a very ugly process.

And no one wants to address this because it's true, it's extremely painful. A woman will be in absolute agony sometimes in these discussions. Crying, hurling her body on the floor. It's hideous.

It's hideous. Sometimes they'll scream at the top of their lungs. And you're just sitting there and you're like, I'm in the fucking Twilight Zone right now. This is insane.

But then you understand that you're crazier than her. You know what I mean? And then she fully, fully is able to put her faith in you. She's fully able to put her faith in you.

Because remember, a woman does not want to be better than you at anything. Nothing. Especially the head games. Especially when it comes to being cunning and it comes to being psychological warfare.

Women do not want to be smarter than you. They don't want to be able to outwit you at all. Because they don't feel safe in that environment. That's why the tough guys, that type of masculinity really doesn't clean up anymore.

It doesn't do well in this market at all. Because those guys are just going into the buzzsaw. They're super fucking tough. But those motherfuckers are a dime a dozen.

Very few, there's very few tough guys who also have the mental, mental wherewithal to sit there and trade mental punches with a woman. You know what I mean? Like, very few are going to be able to withstand that. Guys are going to tap out, they're going to beg for mercy.

They're going to be like, all right, can we just drop this? That's the kind of household they want. I don't believe that's the way at all. If we're talking true devotion and we're talking about moving in a healthy, positive direction with a woman, then everything needs to be broken down so it can be rebuilt on the way up.

Now there is a train that is being ridden really fucking hard right now, really fucking hard right now on Twitter. And everyone's milking the fuck out of this train. And it is 100% incorrect. 100 incorrect. And the train that everybody's riding is the whole body count thing.

And if you are a winner and you actually have status and you've truly been in relationships with women, you have a lot of experience, you know for a fact, deep down, it's nonsense. Because these same talk about how women are tabula rasa, right? They're blank slate. When a woman gets out of a relationship with a man, she becomes a Blake.

Blank slate again. Because a woman will always match and mirror the ideology of the man that she's with. Politically, diet wise, her entire thoughts of the universe and the world. When she's in love with a man, she steals all of those ideologies and becomes that thing.

A woman literally becomes you. When she loves you, she becomes you. There's no other way. That's how a woman shows it.

When a woman starts copying your diet, starts eating like you, starts moving like you, that's when you know that everything is going completely smooth. That's the best sign in a relationship is when a woman borrows your ideology. I would go as far to say that if a woman doesn't eat like you, if her ideology around food doesn't match yours, then you are setting a very poor example. Like if you're at the dinner table and she always battles you and wants to eat a different meal than you are.

Your relationship is in huge, huge trouble, my friend. Because I've never been with a woman who didn't want to eat exactly what I eat. Down to the smallest things. Because they want to be you.

You're an example. And none of. There's no pressure there. It just happens naturally.

She just wants to live your lifestyle, wants to get more sun, wants to go outside, wants to travel with you, etc. The body count thing is because. Let me explain something to you and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I will die on this hill.

I'll battle any on this subject. What I'm about to tell you is a stone cold fact. And here it is. A reformed hoe, a reformed I 100 believe makes the best wife.

Thousand percent. Thousand percent. It's the, it's the male equivalent of an ex convict who did like 30 years in prison. When he comes out, he's like the most law abiding citizen.

And it's the same for women. Women who've had a very, very up past, they have the most love to give to a very, very strong, powerful man. Look, you are in a losing ideology. If you're a man that believes that you cannot make a woman anything you want her to be.

I operate from the premise that any woman I am with, I can turn her into any thing I want her to be. You have a massively losing flaw in your game if you don't believe that. Because it's true. Women are tabula rasa.

They go blank slate when they're out of relationships. That's why similar to how men train Brazilian jiu jitsu, because that's the battleground that they choose to sort of build themselves up. You know what the battleground for women is? When women have had their heart broken or their heart has been slain.

What they do is they go on these juice cleanse excursions, they start going on solo hikes, they go camping, they turn to veganism, they turn to fruitarianism, they start going to seminars, they listen to Tony Robbins, they start taking up spiritual books. They start looking to the cosmos for guidance. They look up to the stars, they look up to the universe because they have no governance, there's no superintendent in their life, right? So a woman is always going to find it somewhere.

If there's no man present, she's going to get her guidance from the stars. That's why when a woman is madly in love with a man, I've never not seen her toss Away. Astrology, all that goes out the window because she's gotten. There's a new sheriff in town.

That's a fact that I've seen that I've never seen a flaw in that. So a woman starts throwing out all her cosmic beliefs slowly as she starts to get the guiding hand from the man at home. Now these women who've had high body counts, they are so haunted by the damage because it is damaging. Of course it is not denying that it's not extremely damaging, but women are far more malleable than men.

The. The female organism is extremely resilient, especially psychologically. And I'm telling you right now for a fact that if that woman enters the life of a man that she truly loves and can trust, she will be chained to you like a ball and chain. I'm talking when you leave the house, she don't want to be out of your sight.

She wants to follow you around everywhere. Because this is what she's been searching for her entire life. Do you understand? She'll drop every friend that she has, all the hoes that she used to run with, she will fucking obliterate them off the face of the planet for you.

She will give you everything. She will give you her credit card. She will fucking donate her house for you. She'll fucking donate her kidney to you.

She will give you everything that you could ever want in your entire life. She'll give it all to you, everything. And leave herself with absolutely nothing but the full reliance and dependency on you to take care of her. It's a hundred percent fact.

Many, many, many such cases. Now, I think a lot of you flunked an IQ test. Unfortunately, when it comes to the Logan Paul situation, if you don't see that as kayfabe and like a WWE style marketing setup, then you got some work to do. You got some work to do.

Look, Logan Paul Learned from the Adam22 situation, right? The whole cuckoldry that is selling massive numbers right now. And these influencers are leaning into it. And I'm not condoning it, I think it's disgraceful.

But at the same time, you want to get to the bottom line of financials. It does work. And you guys are batshit crazy. If you think for one second that Logan Paul is not in on this joke, you're insane.

He's a hundred percent in on it. This was premeditated through and through. And they're building up one of the biggest promotions that you've ever seen. And yet again, the common man falls for the bread and circus, because that is completely choreographed, scripted, and engineered.

I mean, you guys are tripping. That motherfucker's worth like 200 million and could have 50 wives if he wanted. This was premeditated and done intentionally to build up this promotion. You think that really cares that he's getting dunked on?

That guy can literally have any woman he wants. It's all for the promotion. Because the whole cuckoldry thing is in right now. And bashing is.

Is en vogue. The most fashionable thing you can do to build your brand right now is attack sluts. And so now Logan Paul and Dylan Danis. What they've very, very intelligently done because they have good marketing teams, is they've created an ambience where the common man can throw beer at the.

And that's what's going on right now. Everyone's just throwing beer at the chick. And that's because that's what they've been wanting to do. So they're stoking and kindling a flame that has been wanting to be unleashed for a while in society.

Because a lot of these guys who can't get laid, a lot of these guys who struggle with relationships, they just want to lash out and take out every pain point in their life on horse and they want to blame them for everything when we all know it's a male problem. Because men can fix women. The. The only salvation for a woman is in the arms of a man.

That's why all these podcasts where they get these only fans chicks on with these guys and they're having debates about love and shit. That shit is so whack. It's so whack. Because you cannot convince a woman to change behavior intellectually.

There's no way you can sit across from a woman and change her mind about lifestyle, about culture, about politics. The only way a woman changes her mind is when she's in love with a man. Like, that's it. When a woman's in love with you.

Yeah. Then she'll start changing all of her viewpoints on that. So sitting across from a woman who doesn't know who the you are and trying to change your mind is a complete exercise in futility. It's extremely.

And this is what's going on. And this is what's going on. So the fundamental thing, because I do want to circle back, is that your woman needs to know that she cannot beat you. And it doesn't matter what cost or length you have to go to win, because you're a gamer and you have to look at it as a game, because it is.

It's a puzzle. It's a koan. It's a Chinese finger trap. These things have to be solved.

Do you understand? This is fun. You think the brutality and the pain and the torture that sometimes you go in relationships, you think that shit's tough, but real winners know how to carve out fun from all that shit. Because you understand the reward on the other side is a hundred X from what you think it is.

The reward of getting a woman to fully submit to your cause and feel the warmth and strength of your protection is one of the greatest boons that this earth has to offer you. So it's worth going through the trials and tribulations and going through the crucible with her. If. If it's a woman that you choose to invest in, if it's a woman that's worthy of investing in that with you, then you have to be willing to go all the way.

Meaning you have to be willing to torch yourself to nothing. And she also sometimes has to torch herself to nothing because I told you, look, go back to 80s music, 90s music. These. These women, these female singers, they're dead on.

You think Whitney Houston launched smash hits because she was wrong? You think Tina Turner, all these songs about how love hurts. That is the truest thing you'll ever heard. Love is the most painful process for a woman, you know what I mean?

And a man building himself to be a man worthy of love, that's the equivalent. So both the sexes have their own hurdles and obstructions in order to get to the peak, you know what I mean? It is brutally, brutally difficult for a woman to fully give up everything she believes in to fall in love with a man. But she will do it for the right man.

And like I'm telling you, the amount of loyalty you will have, all that, that whole thing about hoes ain't loyal, that's garbage. Because a woman that's in love with you, I don't give a what her past is, will bury bodies for you. Like I said, she will fucking pull out credit card lines for you if you need it. If your business is suffering and you go to a chick like that, she will motherfucking pull out loans.

She'll fucking do anything she possibly can to help you write the ship. And she'll stand by you through thick and thin when nobody else will. That's the utilitarianism of a woman. A woman.

I've never seen loyalty ever like that of a woman who's in love with A man.

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It.

00:38:20HOST

It crushes the loyalty of a supposed brotherhood by orders of magnitude 100%. I think we're gonna have to open the floor here because we just don't open Pandora's box. Yo, Jon Brute.

00:39:03CALLER 2

How's it going, man?

00:39:04HOST

Talk to me.

00:39:05CALLER 1

Good.

00:39:06CALLER 2

So one of the things that you spoke about was this idea of tabula ratha. So I think it's. I guess I just wanted to get your thought on one specific part of that. So obviously there's a great deal of say, biological programming that goes into a relationship, right?

But how is it possible that somebody could be a tabula rasa right after going through all that programming? Surely there's a transitory phase or some sort of experience that they would have to go through like maybe a shock to the system to really like pull them out of what would happen have had been the case previously. Does that make sense?

00:39:40HOST

Yeah, it makes sense. And this is what I'm telling you about that transitory phase is you always notice when a woman does get out of a relationship, they get really hell bent on this whole spiritual quest. You know, they do. Like it's, it's ubiquitous.

You will see women go on these incredible self discovery journeys and none of that is really about discovering the self. What it is they're actually just recharging their batteries. But because they know at the end of that enlightenment that they get, they're just going to find the. Go find the baddest boy possible to go to go to war again.

Like I look at any spiritual quest that a woman goes on to supposedly better herself, she's actually just building her spirit back up because she knows she's going to go find the biggest, baddest behemoth of a monster she can find and get right back into it. So that's the transitory face. Because these women, typically, it goes one of two ways, right? A woman goes out of a relationship and here's why I think the tabula rasa thing is a good analogy.

Because I know from my experience with my exes, the ones who were in phenomenal shape and were spelt and they had, you know, a great physique and they were at the healthiest because they were copying my lifestyle. What happens is a lot of these women when they get out of a relationship with a man who they were so in love with and they copied his ideology, they. They turn the other cheek and they run the exact opposite direction. Almost as like a, you know, so like a woman will go put on 25 pounds and start eating Horribly, she'll throw out the diet because you know she was eating Carnivore like you were.

But every time she eats Carnivore now reminds you of her. So she's gonna go gut, she's gonna gut your ideology out from the center and she's gonna go run the opposite direction in the beginning and go put on a bunch of weight. She's gonna fucking dye her hair, chop her hair. She's gonna do everything she can to forget about you, which means she has to discard everything that you taught her, even if it was beneficial.

Women are very self destructive in that way. Does that make sense?

00:41:39CALLER 2

Yeah, man, it makes sense. And I don't know if I could ask an ancillary question.

00:41:43HOST

Yeah, yeah, go for it, bro. This is, this is the flow. Like I want to, I want you to understand, anybody listening what you're doing right now is the exact flow that these conversations are supposed to go in. So I appreciate it.

00:41:54CALLER 2

I appreciate you, man. Thank you. So, ancillary question. Do you think that in a, in the context of a long term relationship you can, you could withstand long periods of distance, say like 10 weeks or 15 weeks, and really sustain that, or do you have to consistently be in the same location to, to sustain a

00:42:14HOST

LTR in today's world? You have the. Proximity is everything. Proximity is everything.

I don't, I think 10 weeks is way too fucking long. You're going to come home. You know how, you know they used to say when men come back from war, they used to send letters to their wives and they'd tell them, this guy's going to be unrecognizable to you when you come back. That was the thing.

Like Special Forces, they would send those letters and warn the wife, when this, when your man comes back, he's been through so much conditioning, you're not going to recognize him. It's the same thing for women now because everything's inverted. So women have that metaphorical letter on their door when a man comes too far away. Because look, here's the deal.

If you're gone for 10 weeks, where do you think your woman is getting her programming from? Women don't just sit at home and twiddle their thumbs at all. They get bored too easily. They're going to be on Instagram, they're going to be on social media, they're going to be scrolling through the tv.

The, the programming on social media and TV is way too corrosive right now. It's way too corrosive. It's a surrogate patriarchy. They're going to program your women and she's going to come back and she's going to be having all that toxic verbiage in her head, and you're gonna have to unwind it all yet again.

So I believe the only way to run a true long term relationship right now is your girl kind of has to be like the pet monkey on your shoulder. She has to pretty much go with you everywhere you want to go. And I fully believe that. I fully believe that you have to either have the wealth capacity to have the freedom to be around her all the time.

And I'm talking about, you know, I'm. Dude, I'm talking about max squeeze here, right? I'm not interested in lukewarm relationships. I'm talking about fiery, passionate relationships that are actually headed in a true direction.

If you want that, then you really, really have to learn how to juggle. And it's a headache. It's a, it's a headache. I mean, no one wants to talk about this.

It's not easy. But if you're with a woman that you want to have children with and you want to birth a legacy, then you have to be willing to go through this.

00:44:18CALLER 2

Appreciate it, man. Thank you. I won't take up too much time, so maybe let some other people ask.

00:44:22HOST

Yep. Appreciate it. Diogenes. What's up, buddy?

Diogenes. Oh, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here,

00:44:49CALLER 1

I'm here, I'm here.

00:44:50HOST

I'm saying.

00:44:51CALLER 5

Yeah, my mic was off.

00:44:52CALLER 1

I'm here. What I'm saying is, since you're coming

00:44:56HOST

at us with this strategy and, and this, this approach to long term relationships,

00:45:01CALLER 1

why would you say. Because I'm assuming you did this with your own.

00:45:05HOST

I don't recall how long you said

00:45:07CALLER 1

you were married, but like, what, what

00:45:09HOST

was the reason that didn't work for you long term since you say you got divorced? Dude, I've never been dumped. I've left every single relationship that I've ever been in. So there's your answer.

Gotcha.

00:45:23CALLER 1

Okay.

00:45:40HOST

Yo, Puffer. Hey, man.

00:45:45CALLER 2

Okay, crazy question, maybe, but I was

00:45:48HOST

wondering, how important are the looks of a woman to you in a relationship? Like how hot she is? Is it more important than personality or other way around? Yeah, it's everything.

But like, like I said, man, like, you can. You really do infuse the personality into a woman. It's, it's, it's, it's sculptable. You know what I'm saying?

Like a woman's Baseline personality doesn't really matter. It just doesn't like she's going to become you over, over a long period of time. That's, that's how it works. So yeah, I mean, dude, I just look at genetics, you know what I mean?

I look when I see a woman and I fucking scan her. I'm just looking at, is this a fucking breeder? That's all I give a fuck about, you know what I mean? Like, I think the golden, I think women that are 5 foot 9, I think that's the perfect height to have kids.

Guaranteed to have tall sons, you know what I mean? I also do think I've never seen a case of a very, very intelligent, industrious man. Not have a smart mother. You, you get.

Male intelligence is inherited from the mom's side. I think this is a fact. So, you know, having a smart woman is extremely important as well. You don't want a dummy because you're going to have dumb kids.

All right, man, thanks. Appreciate it. Yep. Entropy.

What's up, buddy?

00:47:15CALLER 4

Ruth, man, it's great to finally talk to you. How you doing today?

00:47:18HOST

What's up, man?

00:47:20CALLER 4

Well, I mean for the, for the young pups on the call, I can just echo pretty much everything you've said here. I've been with my brother.

00:47:27HOST

Let me, let me. Brother, let me interrupt you. We're not here to echo. I want questions.

I want to expand on the conversation. So if you have a question or something to add on, please feel free.

00:47:38CALLER 4

For sure. So I can echo some of the things that you highlighted. Maybe I didn't realize in myself. So for one, being crazy, as is vitally important.

00:47:49HOST

It is, it's everything.

00:47:54CALLER 4

So what do you, what do you think about this idea that it's very hard for a woman to escape her father or the most important in her life? And then what do you do when you're in that relationship with a long term woman, the woman you've put everything into because she was that woman you selected as well? How do you do if you can't escape her father? There's some things that are built in that you can't even do anything about, brother.

00:48:16HOST

A woman fundamentally wants you to be better than her father. That's everything. A woman is always seeking a man that can outshine her father. That's why the women, the only branch, the only division of woman, of women that I think are the most difficult to conquer are the ones with like the billionaire fathers.

Because how the you gonna compete with that, you know what I'm saying? But like typical women, they're always looking for a man who can out punch their father. Is he wealthier than her dad? Does he have higher status than her dad?

If you be, if you can seat yourself in that throne, a woman will give everything to you. In other words, look, this is, this is the competitive, this is, this is true in the animal kingdom, you know what I mean? And anaconda don't get to full size in the animal kingdom without killing and hunting its way to the top. You know what I mean?

You get a thousand pound anaconda that had to slaughter his way up. Well, it's no true, it's no different for men. You gotta slaughter your way up the hierarchy. And if you're a better image, if you're a more mythical image than her father, you're in like Flynn.

It's game over. It's game over. So if her dad is a super alpha, you got to be a different breed to hang in there because she's always going to compare you to her dad. It doesn't matter if he was a scumbag, if he was a piece of, if he was abusive.

She's always going to compare you to her dad because that, that voice is always going to be in her interior, it's always going to be in her head. So the, like I said, the toughest women to, to really overcome are the ones with the extremely brilliant, industrious fathers who are very successful. Those women are very, very tough to crack. And actually what's interesting is those women's are those women are sluttier than the ones who have shitty dads because no man can compete and it drives them crazy.

So like the billionaire daughters, the Paris Hiltons, and those chicks will go sleep around with everybody because they're like, yeah, no one's gonna break this mythical image that I have. Like, that's the whole goal. That's. The competitive dark underbelly that I'm talking about is like, you have to be triumphant and supersede the mythical subconscious image of her dad.

Not a easy undertaking at all. Like you're, you're never gonna, let's say you meet her father. You can't let her dad punk you. Like, you gotta punk her dad.

That's the truth. Like you gotta literally flex. You gotta punk her dad, you gotta diminish him if you really want a stranglehold. Look, we're talking about power here.

Power is very ugly. Like no one wants to have this conversation. Power is very grotesque. It's an ugly thing because it's Very competitive.

So I'm not gonna go meet a girl's dad and button myself up and pretend to be Mr. Nice Guy. No, I'm gonna go meet her dad, and I'm gonna run game on him. I'm gonna go punk him, and I'm gonna do it in a very, very charming way.

Not gonna be fucking derogatory on purpose. I'm just gonna subtly get my little jabs in when I can, of course, because I. His daughter is now mine. You know what I'm saying?

And so if you want to retain the throne, you got to be willing to go to these lengths. Look, this is my whole ethos, you guys. People don't understand the lengths that you have to go to win in this life. You got to protect your identity. 24 7.

You can't ever take your foot off the gas. You can't take your eye off the ball, or you're just gonna get clapped by someone who's. Who's gonna keep their eye on the ball. Look at what Tate did.

I said it over and over again. You guys don't understand the obsessive path that Tate went on to become who he is. He's a guy who refused to lose any battle. He doesn't give up an inch.

And you can't give up an inch with a woman either. Anything that you embark on should be. You should have the passion to protect and nurture it in that way. You can't give a fucking inch.

You got to fucking claim every bit of fucking territory you possibly can as a man. That's the only way that you maintain your stature and position. And any other advice than that is a major cope. Because we're talking about respect.

That's ultimately what makes a woman respect you. A woman wants to elevate you above her father. She's desperate.

00:52:46CALLER 5

She.

00:52:46HOST

She's. She's praying that you're going to shatter the image of her father. That's what she wants. In her deepest, deepest unconscious, a woman wants you to completely decimate the image of her father.

And then you become the new mythos, and then it's game over. Once you claim that territory, it's game over. That was a great question.

00:53:09CALLER 4

Can I say one more thing that you highlighted as you were speaking there?

00:53:13HOST

Yes.

00:53:14CALLER 4

So, you know, I've been with my wife for a very long time, and a couple years ago, her old man was laid up because he had a knee replacement. He needed some help. He didn't have very many people that could help him with that. That brute care that you need afterwards.

And so I went out there for a week and took care of the man, changed his chamber pot, everything took care of his wounds. And the afterglow from that effect from my wife has reverberated ever since that moment where I showed I could take care of him. The moment where I was like, you know, like everything you said, kind of like really kind of seizing the throne even from her dad himself.

00:53:49HOST

Exactly. You big, you big timed him, but you did it in the charming, proper way by just having a genuine compassion for him. That's what I'm talking about. So you, his, her father was big timed because you, because you were the big fella and you stepped in and took care of business.

You know what I'm saying? So, like, yeah, of course, man. That's how it works. That's exactly how it works.

That's a great example. I'm gonna move on. Thank you. Yo, Ad, can you hear me?

Yep.

00:54:26CALLER 1

Yeah, you were talking about how when you're like back to the argument with your woman thing and how there's no growth there if it's just all Sunshine

00:54:36HOST

and Rainbows 24 7.

00:54:38CALLER 1

You said after the argument and after everything gets laid out on the table and then everything's cool. You said that after that, like for, for a week after that. She's the most perfectly behaved woman, like ever. So I was wondering if.

00:54:55HOST

What about.

00:54:57CALLER 1

Wait, in my mind, isn't she supposed to be perfectly behaved at all times or is that a. How do you think, how do you feel about that?

00:55:07HOST

No, dude, because you're supposed to push each other in a long term relationship. If you're casually dating a chick, then yes, that you're playing a different game, then she should be on her. If you're casually dating a woman, there's no commitment. You're not taking care of her.

She has her own life, she has her own job. She supports herself. She should be on her best behavior at all times. But if you're in an actual relationship where you're building towards having a family, then you need to be pushing each other really hard.

You need to be galloping on that horse and going into, into the fire all the time. Because like I said, the only way a woman truly surrenders is by clashing up against you so many times. She will peek under every rock and play every manipulative angle in the book to see if there's any cracks in your armor. She will fucking turn over every stone.

She will break your system. If you're faking being a tough guy, she'll figure that out. If you're lying, she'll figure that out. If you're doing anything devious, she'll figure that out.

They are pros at this. They're pros at this. That's why I always told you, look, what I'm talking about here is, is a hard pill to swallow. Because the reality of it is if you're a mat, if you're a man with a masculine underlay, okay, you have a masculine conscious, but you have the feminine narcissism, which means you have that lethal cunning ability that a woman does.

You are unstoppable in a relationship. That is the perfect combination. A masculine tough guy with the feminine lethal cunning. Because, look, I've always told you this hyper masculine men do have a feminine side, and that feminine side comes into play heavy when it comes to dealing with women.

You got to be able to match her intensity and her mental warfare. That's why most men get annihilated in relationships because they can't keep up with the mental gymnastics. You know what I mean? They're in the gym, they think putting 5 inches on their biceps is going to get them, is going to get the fucking hot secretary to notice them.

But the motherfucker who's fucking out of shape and three inches shorter, he's a funny guy who just enjoys life. And he's. He's the one her. He's the one fucking her because he has the mental.

He has the coping mechanism. Do you, like, do you guys understand the reason why humor goes so far with women is because humor is the best coping mechanism on planet earth for men. And coping, a coping mechanism is the most powerful tool in a man's arsenal. It's never not going to be that way.

So the funny guy is the equivalent of the hot chick. You know what I mean? Funny guys rule the world, by the way. Like, look at Trump.

Trump became president literally just being a funny guy through trolling and just being fucking humorous. He goofed. He goofed his way into the presidency. Tate, too.

Tate goofed his way up the fucking chain. He's on those videos that he's doing. He's just having fun. He's just having a good time casually winning.

You know what I mean? Casually winning. And so I think there's a lot to take from this shit. Because being a president and being in a high position, that's not a high Q, that's not a high IQ role, it's a high charisma role.

You know what I'm saying? Being president of the fucking United States of America. That's a high charisma role. It's not a high IQ role.

The advisors are the high IQs. So you can kind of see where I'm drawing lines here. Let's get Neo up here. Yo, Neo, did I, did I cut out there?

Did you hear all that?

00:58:53CALLER 5

No, I. You corrupt. You corrupt.

00:58:56HOST

I cut out.

00:58:56CALLER 5

Yeah, I didn't hear all that. But my question is this. Yeah, I have this. In my country there's this thing when females start arguing with men and start this cheat and throwing back arguments like for example, the sea toilet, something like that.

My, not now, but my grandfather and all that old guys, what they always used to do was she start arguing, they just go up, she take on that and she start arguing again. Take off for another day, something like that. So when you say you have to confront her, I really like that. Yeah, I really understand it.

But what there is a line you can draw when you can go away and you can kind of play with this or that is just confronting her or. What is the, the plan here?

00:59:48HOST

Yeah, look, the idea is ultimately that you want to keep the lines of communication open. So as long as a woman is constantly communicating how she feels, it doesn't really matter what the vehicle of transport to convey that message is. It doesn't matter. As long as she's communicating to you directly.

You're in really good shape. And that's like the best indicator that you have. So if a woman is doing all this and being antagonistic, it's just a, another test. It's another run of the mill test.

And then you get so good at diffusing these tests that like I said, you're just enjoying it because if you can't find enjoyment in it, you're not built for a long term relationship. It's never gonna work. It's never gonna work because you're gonna tap out before her and she's just gonna think that you're, you're a, she's gonna think you're a punk. Because dude, you gotta have crazy reservoirs of energy to deal with life.

It's the high energy that just get everything. They get handed everything because they just, you can't beat them. You can't beat them into submission, you can't torture them. Like what more display of masculinity is that, that a woman can never wear you out, you never tire.

You're willing to stand up to it every day if you have to, until the problem's resolved, until you can put the proper metaphors on the table in a conversation that actually resolves the root of the problem. I'm a root guy. I'm a root guy. So when I'm in a conversation with a woman, I don't waste my time discussing surface level shit.

I will sit her down and I will explain to her why I think her behavior is the way that it is, and I will. You have to go deep into her psyche, and you have to explain to a woman why she's acting out the way she is. You have to teach all the time. You have to be a teacher.

You have to navigate her psyche. You have to help her understand where her impulses are coming from. That's what leadership is. That's what leadership is.

And a lot of guys don't want to take the time to do that. I have no problem with it. I'll go as deep as we have to go to figure out what the root of the issue is. Because like I said, the fight is never the reason for the fight.

There's always something underneath that's not being addressed. And I refuse to live in a household with a woman where there's any awkward tension or awkward silence. If we got to duke it out, then we got to duke it out until we get to the nuts and bolts and the crux of the issue so we can move forward. You know what I mean?

Most people in relationships are just pretending like nothing's wrong, but everything is wrong. And then you just have a roommate. You become strangers in your own home. You become estranged from your own partner, and they become basically just a glorified roommate.

I have zero tolerance for that. I got too much passion. Like, I'm not going to get into a relationship with a woman unless it's extremely fiery. No way.

It's not worth it. Like, I'm gonna go as deep as we can, and we are gonna get to the root of every issue until it's resolved. Even if it takes weeks, even if it takes months, we're gonna root it out, and we're gonna do it together. And that's what I'm telling you is that's what builds that foundation of trust and protection.

Because she understands she has a man who's willing to go through it with her until we figure, you got to hold her hand, bro. You gotta hold her hand through this, you know what I mean? While you juggle a massive life, and then she can fully trust you. That's it, bro.

That's how you build trust.

01:03:13CALLER 5

Thanks. Thanks, brute. Thanks.

01:03:16CALLER 2

Yo, Brute. I don't know if I Could ask just a quick question, follow up to that, because it's relevant.

01:03:20HOST

Yeah.

01:03:20CALLER 2

You said a while ago, you have to be able to contend in the arena to defend your ideas. And a really important component that I was speaking. So if conflict is really integral to these relationships, what is a good way that men, you know, or people who are going into this can ready themselves to be better? You know, a bit more like a oratorical pyromancer like you are, and a bit more able to contend with their ideas in a verbal setting.

01:03:46HOST

You're talking about with women or with other men?

01:03:48CALLER 2

With women. Just. How can you become a better. How can you convey your ideas better?

What are some things you can do?

01:03:54HOST

Like convey your ideas to them?

01:03:56CALLER 2

Yeah, yeah, that's speaking.

01:03:58HOST

That's the thing is you should never do that. So, like, I don't ever tell women what to do. I do it obliquely. That's the thing with women is, like, you can't.

You cannot try to enforce rules with women directly. You can't do that. You have to do it through example, and you have to do it through diffusion. Like I said, you have to do it through witness.

The only way you establish intelligence with a woman is through wit. Is through outwitting her and her subconsciously realizing, I just. I cannot get an inch with this guy. That's when you're.

That's when she's open to have your ideas start being embedded deep inside her. That's the only way. Like, you cannot come out and demand respect for a woman. That's absurd.

You know what I mean? Like, guys will be like, you've disrespected me. I demand respect. Well, the minute you have said that, you already acknowledge that you're a man that's unworthy of respect.

Does that make sense?

01:04:55CALLER 2

Yeah, man, but you spoke about wit, so how do you become more witty, I guess? Like, how do you build that charisma? Is that natural or is that built.

01:05:02HOST

No, it's very natural. And that's sort of the black pill here is like, a lot of this is very nuanced because there's a type of man who can handle this better than other type of men. I mean, obviously, you build over time through. Through.

You have to see these things that women are doing as tests. And like I said, once you start to actually have fun frolicking with it, then it'll sort of unlock and untap this part of your own subconscious where you start to kind of slide out jokes at the proper time. Like I said, the best Thing in the world. One of the best experiences you can have is when a woman is absolutely be out of her mind angry and you can get her to crack a smile in the middle of it.

You know what I mean? Like, she breaks character. She breaks the fourth wall. And you, and you and you can peer into it and you look at her and you're like, I see what's going on here.

I got you. Like, that is the ultimate expression of what I'm talking about is like flipping the emotion on its head and getting her to break character. Because you, you can never break character. You know, that's the idea, like that's.

I'm gonna sort of take a tangent here. That's sort of the idea of being a man. It's like as a man, you choose your avatar and you have to run with that all the way into the ground. There's no.

You cannot pivot. Similar to the look, it's similar to this. The way that you begin a relationship with a woman, I don't think you can pivot halfway. Like, I don't think you can start out as a fucking Saddam Hussein style dictator in the beginning of a relationship and then become really fucking mushy in the middle.

I think that gets punished tenfold. I think you have to begin and end as the same person that you were in the beginning. And I believe that's true for anything. Any enterprise that you embark on as a male, you have to ride it out to the end.

This is why I tell you, you guys think WWE is fake. But like, those characters become the real person. Dwayne Johnson really is the rock. He really does become that ego maniacal wild man.

Like, he becomes that person because he doesn't break character. And it's the same thing in relationships. Like, I don't think guys really understand man. As a man, you have to choose your armor and your mask.

Everyone's wearing a mask, everyone's wearing armor. You have to decide what the that looks like for you. And then you have to infuse that ethos into your life and you have to make it real. It's what Tate did.

It's what all these big influencers do. They become the character that they're portraying. You with me.

01:07:39CALLER 2

Yeah, man, I hear you. I appreciate it.

01:07:40HOST

Yep. So many questions. Yo, log. Blocked.

Water. Once again.

01:08:33CALLER 1

Hello.

01:08:33HOST

Hello. Brute the force. How are you, my friend? Yeah, how are you?

How are you, my friend? Go into it, brother. Yeah. Broke the force.

There's a method you're not acknowledging on how to keep them Submissive and how

01:08:46CALLER 2

to keep them in line.

01:08:50HOST

Your methods are okay, they're good. They're good for beginners, but for people, for more experienced people, what they tend to do is. Here's. Bro, I don't, I don't know what the you're saying.

Bro, I'm removing you from the show. Thank you. It. Having a little connection issue.

Yo, liker, just. Liker, just. You're up, Jeans. Hey, Brute.

01:10:08CALLER 3

How's it going?

01:10:10HOST

Yo, yo.

01:10:10CALLER 3

So in one of your earlier spaces

01:10:12HOST

you mentioned the movie Heat and I went and watched it. It was really good. And I could see the relationship dynamics in the movie.

01:10:20CALLER 3

So do you think if a man

01:10:22HOST

is truly on his mission and he's dedicated like 100, can he ever really

01:10:28CALLER 3

sustain a long term relationship with a woman?

01:10:34HOST

No, absolutely not. But, but it'll be the best relationship he's ever had. That's. That's the dude, that's the quagmire, that's the nut that no one's ever been able to crack, man.

That's like the tragic comedy of life is like men that are hell bent on those types of dangerous missions and they obviously have fiery, intense, passionate love, but it's very short lived. And those relationships do end tragically. And that's something that is. It's sort of just endemic to the sort of the male experience.

I mean there's really no way around that. I don't think those. I think those women will give loyalty and devotion, but eventually they just crumble. Eventually they just crumble.

And I mean, look, the best relationships that you'll ever have crumble in that same fashion. That's just the reality. Like this is a very, very, very dark aspect of life. But it's true those relationships that are extremely potent sort of rise and fall in the same way.

You know what I mean? Things, things in life have a very interesting way of ending the way they begin. That's sort of a. That's sort of a maxim that I, I think is imperturbable.

I've never really seen anybody be able to really drill a hole or kind of bore any kind of ontology in that disproves it. It doesn't mean that it's not worth milking it and squeezing all the juice out of it as you can though. Because like I'm like, I'm talking about, I'm talking about, I'm talking about long term here, right? I'm talking about actually sustaining love over an extended period of time.

It's a, it's A. It's a very, very, very tough game that you're playing because there's no. Anything that you're hiding or anything that you're deceiving in yourself is going to come out and there. Look, it doesn't matter if you get a virgin or a girl who is extremely well adjusted in a long term relationship.

There's going purge period where a woman has to spill her guts and purge out a lot of darkness and it's gonna go at your feet. I don't give a how well adjusted she is. A lot of her stuff is gonna come diffusing out. It's gonna come out.

There's. There's no way. Because a woman can't fall in love with you without purging, without vomiting. You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah. Without shedding skin. So I would say if, like, if you are really obsessed and hell bent on a mission, then kind of the only way is to like weave her into it. You know, like you said, keep, you know, put her on your back, so to speak, and you know, try to integrate her as much as you can.

That is 100 correct. Okay. That is 100 correct. And it's the toughest thing to do in the world.

You, I don't give a how what kind of people are solving, you know, rocket physics, nuclear physiology. None of that tech that we're doing right now is, comes anything close to the difficulty of managing these types of situations. It is the, it is the apogee. It is the apex of man is to figure out how to incorporate and weave all these structures together and make it happen.

And that's the great task. That's the great quest of mankind. I mean, look, dude, every, even fiction books, every, every work of art you've ever seen created has touches of this impulse in it somewhere. Like people are creating, designing, writing, lecturing, doing all of this because they are trying to grapple with the things I'm talking about here.

It's all there, all the sexual, all this love. It's all supercharged under the hood of everything going on, bro. Yeah, it's a, it's an unstoppable energy. Okay.

01:14:20CALLER 3

All right.

01:14:20HOST

I appreciate it. Good question. Donut. Yo, Donut.

Hey, Brute. Would you ever consider going back to

01:14:39CALLER 5

one of your previous relationships or.

01:14:41HOST

Once it's over, there's no turning back. I mean, it just depends. I think I 100 have emblazoned myself. I've left my fingerprints on every woman that I've been with.

01:14:56CALLER 1

For sure.

01:14:56HOST

I, I think I have an open lane with any of them. I. I truly do believe if I ever wanted any of my exes back, I could just go take her. But like I said, I've always been the person who's ejected myself from relationships, you know, for myriad reasons.

But, yeah, I mean, it's. It's just subjective. Like, it just depends on. I would say no.

Fundamentally, I would say no. Once I'm done, I'm typically done. But I will say that I do. Here, look, let me give you a black pill that's related to this.

If a relationship breaks down for any reason at all and it's no longer functioning correctly, which means, like, the lines of communication have been shut down, or there's sort of a coldness in the home that grows between you two, it's always, always, always 100% because the woman thinks she can do better than you. See, only the only way a relationship breaks down is when a woman gets the impression in her head that she can do better than you. You. Otherwise, a relationship is.

Doesn't break. Thank you very much. Yo, what's up, Bruce Anthony? What's up, buddy?

01:16:29CALLER 1

What's up, man? So, yeah, back to what you were saying about that. I feel like I had a question about this. If you ever leave a girl, right?

And she now, like. I feel like what you said she now feels like if you come back to her, she has authoritative position, right? So how do you make sure if she tries to start challenging you in the relationship in the first place, how do you keep that dominant frame?

01:16:56HOST

You're talking about getting back with an ex.

01:16:58CALLER 1

No, no, no.

01:16:59HOST

And then trying to.

01:17:00CALLER 1

Talking about if. If within. If you're already within the relationship, how do you. If she tries to challenge you, right?

Because you're talking about. Before disputing the arguments, right? By, like, trying to, I guess you would say, talk it out, get to the root cause. But I feel like if you argue with her, it gives her positive reinforcement for trying to invoke your attention in a negative way.

So, like, how do you hold the frame without making her feel like she's in authoritative position?

01:17:26HOST

But I think that it is holding the frame, and I'll tell you why. When she's capturing your attention in that way, that's what actually extinguishes all the deviant behavior. The reason why women cheat and the reason why women do a lot of devious behind men's backs is because. Because men are unwilling to do what I just told you're supposed to do.

Do you understand? If you're feeding her, if you're feeding her soul in that way. And I'm not saying it's healthy, because, look, I don't believe relationships are supposed to be healthy. I think they're supposed to be extremely arduous, and I think they're supposed to be painful because that's where growth is.

So a healthy relationship is just a concept in general. It doesn't make any sense. You're supposed to push each other all the time to be better. And we all know that's a difficult process, right?

So my point is when you're. You think that she has the authority and you're in her frame, but you're actually feeding a part of her where she doesn't want to go to any other source to get the attention. You know what I mean? You want.

You want to be in the position all the time where she comes to you for everything, right? And look, there's. There's, there's fucking tangential benefits to all of this. Like, once you get through these hurdles, you have a woman in your arms who will literally seek your guidance on everything.

If you have to fill out a form, if she has to write an email, she'll fudgeing, come to you in the middle of the night and be like, hey, can you proofread this? Can you tell me if this is good? She'll ask for your fucking guidance about fucking everything. What should I eat?

Can I put this pill in my body? Should I take a Tylenol? I have a headache. Like, she's just looking all the time for answers from you because you're the guy who's always in the arena with her.

Right.

01:19:00CALLER 1

But do you feel like it's not about.

01:19:01HOST

It's not. It's not about frame.

01:19:03CALLER 1

Yeah, but I feel like. Isn't there a fine line between her coming to you for her problems and her just being straight, combative?

01:19:12HOST

Yes, of course. But you have to kind of meld them together and look at them as the same thing. You have to look, you have to. This is what I'm trying to tell you.

You have to look at both of those things as an opportunity for you to sharpen your mental weapons. You get it?

01:19:26CALLER 3

I guess.

01:19:27HOST

So, like. Like, you have to enjoy being able to sharpen your mental blades. If, like, if she's coming at you in that way, you got to be able to diffuse the situation in a very charming way. That's a.

That's one of the greatest skills you could possibly have that bleeds over into every aspect of your life. That'll help your Business that'll help you become a better man and in life. But the. The bottom line is my point of being the guy who stands in the middle of the contention and the hostility is that then you become the source of everything.

You become the source of the way she feels about everything. So she's going to come to you as the cornerstone and the pillar for everything in her life, and that's the position that you want to be in. It's a huge responsibility. You know what I mean?

01:20:04CALLER 1

Yeah.

01:20:05HOST

Like, my girl asks me for advice on everything, everything down to the smallest detail. If she has to choose lipstick, she'll put a palette of colors on my face and be like, which one?

01:20:19CALLER 1

Right.

01:20:20HOST

If she has to buy a pen, which pen do I buy? She comes to me and asks before she buys any clothing, do you like this one? This one? This one?

Should I pick this one? I'm. I'm choosing everything for her. And I didn't have to do that with an iron fist.

Right. I didn't have to enforce anything. It just happened naturally because I have that trust and establishment because I'm willing to go toe to toe with it on anything. You understand?

01:20:44CALLER 1

Yeah.

01:20:44HOST

So there's no other outside source. I am the source. And that's the best position to be in as a man.

01:20:51CALLER 1

Yeah, that makes sense. I just. I just feel like in.

01:20:55HOST

In.

01:20:55CALLER 1

In certain life experiences, from analyzing other relationships, the more combative a woman is, because I feel like if. Like. I'm not saying what you're saying is wrong. I'm just saying in a different situation to where if she realizes that she can get your attention, even if it's in a negative light for, like, not even.

It can even be an argument that's, you know, trying to solve a deeper problem. But her just starting to try to invoke intention from you, I feel like it's. Sometimes that can also be negative for the relationship. I don't know.

I feel like.

01:21:26HOST

Yeah, but. Yeah, but my opinion on that is, so what? You're. So.

You want to be so powerful as a man that you can handle anything. It's like, okay, throw your combative at me. I don't give a. I'll figure this out, too.

You want to be a man who is willing to figure out anything. You want to be able to step in any situation that life throws at you and be like, all right, I'm gonna figure it out. And that's just. I look at any challenge as a way for me to sharpen myself, get better, and figure it out.

And That's. That's a winning philosophy, right? With anything. You know what I mean?

It's just. It's another opportunity. All right? You're giving me another opportunity.

We'll figure this out. We'll squash this one to throw more at me. We'll squash this one, too. Keep going.

Keep. I. I love this. Keep throwing on my shoulders.

I don't give a. Yeah, because we'll figure it out.

01:22:04CALLER 3

Yeah.

01:22:05HOST

You know what I'm saying?

01:22:05CALLER 1

I feel like that's kind of helping me out right now because, like, my, My. My approach to this is spinning plates. So she starts. I just go to the other one, and then she doesn't get her attention.

So when she's around me, she doesn't argue or anything like that. She just.

01:22:19HOST

Yeah, she's. But you're playing a different game than me. Like when I. I'm in a relationship where my woman needs to completely surrender everything so I can steer us in the direction that we're headed in.

01:22:30CALLER 1

Yeah.

01:22:30HOST

Does that make sense? So she has to be willing to. She has to be willing to bend the knee and admit to herself that I am the leader and my leadership is what's going to move us forward, not hers. And the only way to prove that is to go through these horrific sequences with her routinely.

By the way, they should be happening a couple times a month. This should be even happening maybe even like once a week.

01:22:53CALLER 1

I see what you mean.

01:22:55HOST

And then, dude, you just get powerful love. The sex is better. The love is better. The bond is stronger.

You have. You feel control over your relationship. You feel more control over your life. You're you.

She gives you the leeway to steer the relationship. You're making all the decisions like this. These. This is the position that you want to be in, my brother.

Yeah. It's the best place to be in place. It's different. Different when you're spinning plates.

It's different because she doesn't. She's not going to give up everything for you if you're spinning plates. You know what I mean? Dude, when I say everything, I mean.

I mean, are you paying for her financially? Are you taking care of her life?

01:23:31CALLER 1

Yeah.

01:23:31HOST

Are you paying all her bills?

01:23:33CALLER 1

Well, it's not paying her bills. Like, I'm 17, bro.

01:23:36HOST

Exactly. So she ain't. So she ain't giving you everything. Somebody else is paying her money, brother.

Someone else is putting money in her pocket. So you're missing territory. You know what I mean? Like, I'm a man.

I'm talking about claiming every aspect of Territory on earth. Someone else is paying your girl, so you don't have full control. There's no way. There's.

That's. That's clear cut and dry. There's no way to spin that one.

01:23:58CALLER 1

Yeah, I guess. I guess that makes sense. Well, at the same time, I am underage, so I can't even. You know what I'm saying?

01:24:03HOST

I get it.

01:24:04CALLER 1

Yeah.

01:24:04HOST

I get it. So you're on the. So you're on the journey. So you're headed towards.

At some point in your life, you're going to be in one of these configurations I'm talking about. Yeah. And trust me, there's no better position to be in than a woman who doesn't want to work and wants you to take care of her. Oh, 100.

That's. That's the best position to be.

01:24:20CALLER 1

Oh, 100.

01:24:21HOST

Because it's. It's. Dude, it's really tough for women in this climate to do that. By the way.

Like, women have trust issues with men. They've been hurt a hundred times. They're not so quick to give up their cushy paying job to go under a man's thumb. You know what I'm saying?

Like, if you actually can. Can get a woman to do that and put her faith and trust in you that you're going to take care of her and she leaves herself no outs. Because, dude, all these chicks today, they leave themselves an out. You know what I mean?

Like, they. They'll go in, kind of tiptoe, kind of tepid, kind of one foot in, one foot out. Let me kind of test the waters with this guy. But when a woman's willing to give up her job, give up her soul, give up everything and fully depend on you knowing full well that if you turn on her, she's.

Because she has nowhere to turn. That's a beautiful thing.

01:25:06CALLER 4

Oh, 100.

01:25:07CALLER 1

She's putting her 100 trust in you.

01:25:09HOST

100 trust fully.

01:25:11CALLER 1

Yeah.

01:25:12HOST

Yep. That you're gonna take care of her no matter what. And then. And then, dude, that process is what I'm talking about.

01:25:19CALLER 1

And I think you're right.

01:25:19HOST

You know what I mean? Like.

01:25:20CALLER 1

Because, like, I feel like any relationship that fails isn't.

01:25:24HOST

It's.

01:25:24CALLER 1

It's always on the man's fault because he. He didn't build a frame to where his woman can submit fully. You know what I mean? I feel like every correct relationship is down to the man and his friend

01:25:36HOST

100 of the time.

01:25:37CALLER 1

Yeah. Makes sense.

01:25:38HOST

It's always. It's always your fault. Yeah.

01:25:41CALLER 1

All right. Appreciate that, man. Thanks.

01:25:52HOST

Yo, chris. Chris. Can't hear you, dog. I'm gonna move on.

Hello, Pavel.

01:26:22CALLER 3

Yeah, so I live in Europe. I live in Finland. And there's this common thing that happens here, which is where, like, women have these high corporate careers, and then when they're dating a guy, if a guy wants to, for example, go into business, he has to tell his girlfriend or his girlfriend, like, a coherent story how his business is going to work out before he's able to kind of jump into the risk. Basically, his ideas have to make sense to her before he's able to pull the plug on his job.

So. And for me, I think it's, like, not really a good model. But talk about, like, what you think about it.

01:27:05HOST

Yeah, I mean, that's a terrible model, but that's what I'm saying, bro, is like, these. These guys have to get over the breadwinner to a degree, because it's like, women got that already. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's.

It's way deeper than that. That's why I'm saying women aren't submitting to guys with money anymore. Anymore. Money.

Money's not that impressive. It's kind of like money has become kind of like the college degree. You know what I mean? It used to be very impressive when you had a college degree from an Ivy League.

Now everyone has money. It's just not. It doesn't slap the way it used to. Like, money is not that impressive when you see people with millions of dollars.

So it's like, what? What now? Well, now you got to play the psychological game. Now you got to play the psychological game to build trust with a woman.

And that's what I'm getting into here with you, is like, she needs to know psychologically that you have dominance. It's not about the physical. It's not about the cash. It's not even about the lifestyle.

It's all the whole arena is the psychological. And this is where a lot of guys really struggle, because, like I said, they think that their physique or how they look or what kind of money they make, like, earns the love of a woman. We've seen that. That's not true at all.

So you're in a position where a woman's a war pig and she's earning a bunch of money. Then you got to have psychological superiority. You know what I mean? You got to be crazier than her.

And I really mean that. That's not a hyperbole.

01:28:33CALLER 3

Yeah. So another question about the previous space, you were talking about how like the negative energy and all the achievements and stuff and how it felt. How did it feel for you when you. So you said you were like fired from your job and then you had to just like go on all in on your thing.

So talk about. Because for me now I'm kind of in that position and it feels like I'm kind of like one and I feel great. I feel like, like I'm working on it every day. But like, it feels like I'm just like one meeting or one like event away from something to happen.

And like, is that sort of what you felt or how did it feel for you to kind of get through that hump?

01:29:19HOST

. So I pretty much realized that I was actually in a better position being dirt broke and not having a boss than basically making some kind of like mid tier salary. Because you gotta understand, this is what, 15 years ago for me, 18 years ago, it was, it was very high status to be able to waltz into a restaurant or a coffee shop at like noon time wearing. Wearing athleisure clothing.

Like that was a very high status thing. So the fact that I could go anywhere the I wanted to midday while everyone else was working a job, my status was higher than theirs automatically. And so for me, if I could just pay my bills, which you can do blindfolded in America, it's really not hard to pay rent, get food and like that grass finished beef is $5 a pound. You could even shower at the beach if you had to.

Like, it's just survival really ain't hard anymore. It's so easy. So as long as my base needs were met, I had a roof over my head, food and. But I was broken.

I was still way more free than a with a mid tier job because all I was going to do is just take massive risk every day. And what's the worst case that happens if I lose? Every single day, I'm still waking up with the freedom of not having a boss. Like, I know my bills are going to get paid.

I'll do some kind of deal. I'll fashion some. I'm MacGyver something every month to pay my bills. I'll make a sale.

I'll do something crazy to get that done. So in the meantime, I'm just gonna have a blast. I'm gonna go into the social scene. I'm gonna go meet people and I'm just gonna take massive shots and eventually there's gonna be a huge, huge payoff because it's just a statistical Certainty that if you're taking the kind of risks that I'm taking, you're gonna have a massive payday in the end.

You know what I mean? And then all of a sudden, you skip a hundred steps, and I'm at the top. That's always been my strategy. My life never changed when I lost.

When I took a huge risk and I lost, my life never changed. So it was easy to wake up and just continuing to put up shots. It doesn't matter how risky. I could do 10 game parlays every day.

Maybe it'll hit once every two years, but when it hits, I'm a millionaire. Then. I was living like a millionaire when I was broke. I was living like a millionaire when I was broke because I had good food, my physique was on point, my energy was on point, my health was on point, and I was social.

So I had already gotten 95 of the benefits of being wealthy while I was poor.

01:31:57CALLER 3

And how much, like, time you were spending, kind of, like, developing your, like, technical skills, like, versus time actually, like, trying to make money or, like, marketing stuff. Like, what was the balance there?

01:32:09HOST

I would just kind of let pressure build up to me, but, man, I was having fun every day, living, like, a year European. I would let sort of the impulse just kind of naturally come to me where I could kind of feel the fire licking at my feet, and I would be like, all right, rent due in three days. I don't have this covered. Or, like, a massive bill would be due.

My phone bill. You know, we're talking when I'm 18 years old. And then the pressure would naturally spring me into action, and then I would just basically concentrate a massive swarm of energy down into a funnel, and I would go berserk. And I would go make a sale, go get a deal done, go fashion something together and figure it out, like, days before.

I'm a procrastinator by nature, which I'll have to talk about this someday. I think procrastination is a superpower to many, to many degrees. But, yeah, I would basically just let myself get very close to the edge, and then that would put me in a mode where I was able to perform at the highest of levels because it had to happen. I, like, I didn't have a choice.

I had three days to come up with rent, and I had zero dollars in my pocket. But keep in mind, I'm socialing, I'm socializing. I'm going out at night, every night. I'm meeting women.

I'm just having fun. I'M traveling around broke. Like it doesn't take very much to keep your horses running. Doesn't take very much.

You can, you can live on a meager salary while you figure life out. So for me, it was just all about the upside of just taking huge risks. I mean, any money that I would make, I would pretty much do some crazy investment looking for like a thousand X, 1500 X. And I would just do that every single day with the expectation I was going to lose.

But if I lost, my life didn't fucking change any, any, you know what I mean? Still get, still getting laid. I'm still strong, I'm still fucking healthy. And I just sailed that ship until the fucking end of time.

And then my big scores would come and all of a sudden I'm light years ahead of the mid tier salary guy. Gotcha.

01:34:07CALLER 3

Thank you.

01:34:08HOST

Yep.