Doubted & Denied

00:00:06HOST

Haven't been able to train or lift weights in like eight days. I've had a pretty severe lat injury. I literally cannot hold a weight on my chest. And so I've been forced to rest for like a week straight.

Literally forced. And I went to bed real early the other night and I woke up and I've never had a, any kind of hand injury, not that I know of, not that I'm aware of. And I wake up one morning, it was a couple days ago, and it felt like I had a stress fracture in my hand. Literally felt like I broke my hand in my sleep.

Zero mobility. It's like you shoved my hand in a sewing machine and let the machine piston down on my ulnar bones. Horrific, horrific pain. Now makes zero sense that you could shatter your hand in your sleep.

So I came to the conclusion that all the stems that I've been doing, all this chain smoking, all the lifting, all the movement, it gave me the insight that I've been masking this injury for quite a long time. It's been masked. And as soon as I rested and as soon as the, the body toned down, the, the great unveiling happened and the injury has appeared out of nowhere. So I have to imagine that I've actually had a real up hand for probably months and had zero clue.

Rest is dangerous, my friend. Rest is lethal. Because now that I'm down regulated stuff, starting to sense all this floating pain in my body that's obviously been there for a while. And the point of the story is that letting go, truly letting go might actually be the apex philosophy.

If you've ever had a crippling migraine or a crippling headache and you tensed up and you're clenched and the pain is so powerful, you know, one of the most soul nourishing phenomenons is when you slowly release the clench and you kind of sink into it and that dull pain starts to slowly fade away. It's one of the most soul nourishing experiences when you just let go and you let things come from the apogee down into the trough where they belong. Okay, now let's blend this in. Let's blend this in a very creative fashion about.

There's the idea that there's nothing to fix. Do you guys understand? There's nothing to fix. There's, there's nothing in society that's broken.

It's one of the greatest lies that we've all been told. One of the coziest, most comforting lies is that there's some fucking grand catastrophe in Society right now, that needs to be disentangled, that needs to be put back together. The fabric is broken. That's the narrative.

And it's all a fucking lie. Do you guys understand history? History? You cannot put your hand over your heart and say with true conviction that history has ever been any fucking different than it is today.

Can't do that. Because all the archetypes are the exact fucking same. You know, the guys that we vilify with fucking orange broccoli hair, the horse toothed geeks that play video games professionally for a living with the fucking rapid hand eye coordination. That motherfucker is no different than the English medieval archer being loved by his lord for protecting the fucking castle in 11th century medieval times.

Do you understand? That archetype is the motherfucking same. That English archer is the same guy that's the same horse tooth nerd playing video games at an elite level now. It's just instead of a bow and arrow, motherfucker's got a fucking video game console in his hand.

So when you take technology out of the equation because the technological offerings are different, so of course the archetypes are going to express themselves and mold themselves into the vessel that's presently being rot on ourselves. This should make perfect sense to you. There's always been dysgenic little hunchbacks roaming around, Magicians, jesters, corsairs, all of these motherfucking archetypes have spread themselves throughout history because nature always wins. And I guarantee you, if you go back in any historical period, they all had the perception that their society was broken in the same way that we think it is.

And society ain't broken. There's literally nothing to fix. The only thing you can do, and this is why, aligning yourself with politics and these movements that are supposedly grassroots, that are fucking burgeoning, that are supposedly supposed to force social issues, it's all bullshit. It's all bullshit.

That's why I don't align myself or affiliate myself with any of this nonsense, because I understand that this is always, this is never going to change. Nature has birthed this type of phenomenon since the dawn of mankind. Like how has no one drawn the parallel that only fans has always existed? Only fans has always been here.

If you walked into a fucking saloon in the 1800s, there were whores nested at the top of the stairs, waiting in bedrooms with risque lecherous posters advertising them. Any playing poker who just cleaned out someone's stack could walk upstairs and bang a whore. Prostitution's like the oldest profession of mankind, onlyfans literally was here in the 1800s. It just wasn't in a digital format.

Just wasn't in a digital format. But the expression whores, cheaters, lechery, that shit's always been present. It's always been built into the animal infrastructure. History is no different than it is today.

There's no difference. You can find it everywhere. It's endemic. It's endemic to the species.

There's nothing to fix society's fucking perfection. It's perfection. And if you're a winner, you smirk. You smirk and you laugh when you hear motherfuckers talking about return to tradition.

The fuck is that bullshit? That's not a winning philosophy. That's a fucking cowards philosophy. Return to what?

Return to what? The formula for winning has always been the same. The games are the same. The human game sales persuasion process of will, forward, advancement, tactics, strategy, it's.

It's all the fucking same. It's all the same. We've all been equipped with these mechanisms forever. The machinery is a little bit different, but the archetypes all translate fucking perfectly.

You know what I'm saying? There's always been good women, bad women, good men. Clashes and battles of the archons, good versus evil. It's fucking everywhere.

You know what I mean? You never had to read Spengler, you never had to read Spangler. You didn't have to dive into the fucking channels of fucking Schopenhauer and Nietzsche like those, those Alexander, Caesar, the Comanche war horse riders, they're all here. Those people are here right now.

You know what I'm saying? Caesar's here, Alexander's here. It's the next incarnation. Because those archetypes don't leave the human soul.

They don't. It's a fact. You know what I mean? And if you don't view history this way, then you're in some sort of raspberry luxury dream where you basically have so much time on your hands to pontificate about the glory days and pontificate about how things could be so much better.

And all you're doing at the end of the day. And we all know this is subconsciously true. We all know the only solution to every answer in society is for everybody to double down on who they are right now. That's it.

It's always been the name of the game. It will never change. You were built a certain way and your job is to fix nothing. Do you understand?

There is nothing to fix within you. And when you start messing around and tinkering with your own faculties, that's when you topple empires. That's when you start putting wrenches in the cogs of the wheels and start interfering with fate. And that's when you get these really fucking bizarre perversions of truth.

You know, I've talked a lot about leaning into your nature, and it's just become clearer and clearer to me that nobody has fucking struck the bullseye like I have with this. It's, it's, it's the front running philosophy right now. And I just know I've never felt something tug at my heartstrings that's given me so much elucidation of truth in my entire life. The guy, the guy that I was telling you about, and I love this archetype right now, even the psychological fat guy, you know what I'm saying?

Like, there are so many people right now that if you forced them into the gym and told them to become healthier and start eating fucking strictly and having this fucking militant, like, viewpoint towards health and fucking salubrity and vitality, there's a lot of men that if you force them into the gym with a trainer and they fucking lose a bunch of fat and they pack on a bunch of muscle, you would actually fucking tank. You would tank the fuck out of their mental health. Like, you would literally. You could literally cripple a motherfucker's mental health past the level where they wouldn't be able to recover.

If you force this on enough people. I mean, the proof is just in the pudding. There's plenty of people out there who don't need to go to the gym and don't need to be jacked to be successful. That is one of the dumbest, universal, ubiquitous RX prescriptions floating out there right now.

Because we all know it's. I mean, we all, we all can literally look, why, why the. Come on, guys, we got to do some critical thinking here. Why the are the bodybuilders and the meatheads at Venice Beach?

Why? Why aren't they running the world? If testosterone is the Holy Grail and getting your hormones right and being a jacked supposed handsome, if that's truly the secret ingredient, why are all the motherfuckers at Venice Beach? Why aren't they running the world?

Why aren't they making legislation? Why aren't they making all the policy? Why aren't they the CEOs of every company? Why aren't they doing what Elon Musk doing?

Because it's all a lie. It's all a lie. You know what I mean? People are wired in a certain way.

Some, some motherfuckers are going to be so awkward if you get them jacked. Like, what the is that? Like, in my personal case, me going to the gym is just a no brainer. It's just something I have to do.

My DNA, I'm, I come from a long thoroughbred line of athletes and shit, so like I have to train for my sanity, but that's me. And there's plenty of who have a successful formula that don't do any of this. Let me, let me do a grand unveiling for you. I saw a tweet this morning that I think is literally the dumbest.

This will go down as the dumbest tweet I believe in world history. It's in the hall of fame of just brain dead takes. And I'm going to read it to you. Let me find it.

This guy says there is not a single metric where fat people have it better than healthy people. Energy and quality of life, attractiveness to potential partners, earnings, disease risk and life expectancy, the list goes on. Yet they still eat. There it is.

There it is. That takes the cake for the dumbest. And I actually mean this like the most troglodyte, bone headed, low IQ take of all fucking time. Like humans aren't playing a longevity game.

That's not, that's like a fake thing, you know what I mean? Like, there's some people that have fires in their souls that get extinguished super early, but they accomplish a lot more in the time that they're here than any. Like, look at the reverberation of Tupac's legacy. What?

Murdered in his 20s, had more of a cultural impact than out here on the transhuman humanism stick trying to live to a hundred, packing in quality years, you know what I mean? Making quantum leaps through the fucking hierarchy. And here's the thing. Most people, 99.9% of people are never going to take the evolutionary trials required to completely break out of that local minima and exceed their life path.

Like I've always told you this, your fate in your blood, the way it's encoded, you're pretty much locked in to a certain parameter of fate. And it's in parentheses because those parentheses can definitely be expanded in one direction. But for the most part, no one's gonna make that quantum leap. Those transcendent personalities are a needle in a haystack, you know what I mean?

The proverbial Jesus Christ, all that. That's a very, very, very rare phenomenon. It's a flicker in the moonlight, and then it disappears. So if you.

If you actually really want to get a better grasp of life and where culture's headed, you really don't have a choice but to just embrace what the is in front of you right now. Which is, which is the winner's mentality is that society is absolutely perfect as it stands. There's nothing to fix, nothing's broken. Nature's always going to do its thing.

Nature's always going to do its thing. And if you're too rigid and you're too strong and you're too powerful and you're too transcendent, like I always told you, you're going to miss out on a bunch of life. You're going to miss out on a bunch of the fucking joys of life. Because here's the reality.

Winners are always going to find the loopholes and the exploits and find the bugs in the firmware of the present reality. And that's that. And that's that. And anything else is a losing philosophy if you're not someone who can take advantage of the flaws in modernity.

And I say flaws in a paradoxical way because I just said society is perfect, but obviously there's always bugs in the firmware, and you don't need to be a mathematician to grasp that reality. A lot of this just comes to the fore from just reducing your anxiety and just accepting what is. It's the apex philosophy, the who can just think deeply and accept what is. I have a mentee right now that I've been mentoring vigorously.

And this guy on paper has one of the best lives on paper. Many of you would want to trade places with this guy. Tons of money in the bank, beautiful wife, kids. But he came to me because he's been wearing war paint his whole life.

He's been wearing a mask and he's deeply, deeply, deeply miserable. There's been something in him his entire life he shares with me that has been tugging on him. A lack of contentment, a lack of fulfillment. He's doing everything right structurally, on paper, on the surface, he's got a fucking beautiful life.

But deep down, he can't fucking take it anymore. He can't fucking take it anymore. And he got his mentorship with me. And he admitted up front he was like, look, I'm probably going to get this mentorship with you.

And he's like, I'm probably not even going to take advantage of it. He's like, I just know my personality. He's like, I like to buy into things and buy into structures. And different ways of living.

And he's like, I quit and I peter out and I put her out super fast. And he was like, this is just a thing of mine. Like, I'll start something, I start really hot, and then my gas tank runs out and I basically just shy away from it and I run away. And I was like, okay, so let's see what happens.

So I was talking to him this morning, and he was kind of. We were kind of treading over the purpose of why he got the mentorship. We were kind of confronting it and kind of peeling back some of these layers. And I came up with the answer, and it was very true.

So. So my understanding of the reason why this guy was such a pearly life on the outside, got the mentorship with me is because he's been so suffocated and so suppressed from that barbaric, vitalistic nature that I talk about that every man wants to unleash, despite the fact that they're, you know, keeping up the party line. They're. They're holding a good job, they're in really good social standing with their tribe, but people don't know that.

They're just suffering and they're dying underneath. And so I understood this morning. It became very clear to me that the only reason he purchased the mentorship is because he wanted to do something devious. It was a defiance, understand?

It was a defiance of his typical life. It was just doing something atypical. It was a secret. It was a secret now because nobody would believe in this guy's personal life or perceive that he would be the type of guy who would get a mentorship.

Nobody. Because he's done such a good job of hiding it and wearing the face. And so now he's got a confidant in me, and he's just been spilling his fucking guts about all the fucking dissatisfaction he has. He wants to rupture the plane.

He wants to shake things up. He wants to release that natural fucking barbaric nature that's been suffocated, it's been strangled, it's been defenestrated, and he wants to release it so bad. So by jumping on board with me, this is. Is like holding a secret, you know what I'm saying?

So what I'm saying is it's giving him an opportunity to kind of explore the bounds of that left hand path that I talk about that's essential for being a complete man. Because this is a guy who's taken the right hand path his whole life. He's the Johnny good boy. Nobody would have the faintest fucking clue that he's got these Thonian forces quaking underneath that are.

That are dying to come out. You know what I'm saying? And so he did it in a civilized way. Because what happens for a lot of guys who do the right hand path their whole life and they never experiment with the left hand is they'll just.

They'll just snap one day and they'll just go on a fucking bender and go fucking bang a bunch of hookers in a hotel room and fucking snort lines of coke. And so instead of just completely snapping the rubber band and completely unraveling, he's doing it in a. In a more civilized way. He's just.

He's just open to the fact that he ain't living right. And he wants to start with some sort of fucking devious move of just kind of exploring kind of these, These darker desires that he has that he's never been able to satisf. Satisfies. Never been able to indulge them.

And I. I have a feeling that a ton of men are in this exact position. Everything's on paper is so sterling, it's so perfect, it's so perfectly curated. You've got such an image that you have to uphold every day, which takes a brutal amount of stamina and energy and endurance to hold, by the way.

And no one knows that these men are seriously so up on the inside. So up. And it's like it all goes back to these theories that I've been proffering to you guys. You know, he.

This particular guy, he can't remove the misery too fast either, because the misery, even though it's a condition that people don't want to stay in for long, the misery. The misery is also a linchpin. It's holding a lot of other structures together and functions in his life that if he takes away the misery, he's also going to lose a lot of other functionality. Do you understand?

It's like the way you walk is the way you talk, the way everything you do leads to everything else. And so this is why I told him. I was like, bro, I don't think there's anything to fix at all. There isn't in anybody, like the state of being that you are being blessed with right now, that is showing you the path forward.

It's why I said, I believe every. I look at every single emotion that I experience as very benevolent. I look at it as a sort of kindness. And I treat it in a very, very.

I. Baby, It, I nurture it. If I'm depressed and I'm supposed to feel depressed. It's just that when you're healthy and you have a lot of vitality, those cycles are miniature.

You're able to break and bust out of those cycles in a very brisk manner. And, and that's a symbol of health. That's a symbol of health is being able to capture these emotions and being able to coast them and ride them like a tsunami, you know what I mean? Like, emotions are designed to be surfed.

You have to surf them. You surf them and you enjoy the ride and then you move on. I don't think emotions are meant to be tinkered with in a reflective capacity, you know what I mean? It's like I said this yesterday, any can meditate in a dim, calm, quiet, candle lit room.

Anyone can calm their mind in such a circumstance. But, but the, the meditation that I see, the ethical, the efficacy in meditation actually comes from having the type of brain that stays on track in the midst of the maelstrom, in the midst of chaos, standing in the middle of the tempest and still having a quiet confidence. That's real meditation. That's the only effective version of meditation, you know what I mean?

And that can only be practiced in the gym of life itself, not sequestered in a monastery where obviously, you know, the boons of meditation are available to anybody in that situation. But what about the type of who's got the world on his back that can remain steadfast? What about that guy? That guy's the true meditator, you know what I mean?

And it's like you start to tear and tease apart these modalities and you come to the same conclusion every time, which is that in order to become a good meditator you got to travel the complete opposite road to be a good meditator. You don't become a good meditator by meditating. You become a phenomenal meditator by dealing with the chaos and the throes and vicissitudes of life itself. And then you just naturally become a phenomenal meditator.

It's like to reach any of these destinies, you have to go the complete opposite way. And then it's like a Mobius strip. You start on one end of the strip, there's a wrinkle and a twist in the middle of the, of the material and you end up on the back side of it. You know what I mean?

Life is toroidal like that. It's a Taurus. It's, it's it's circular. Everything comes back to itself.

But you got to complete the full loop. You know what I'm saying? You got to complete the full loop. Most people are going for the half loop and then you end up halfway there and you're grappling with these systems that you've put in place to try to become a good meditator.

It's like, brother, you're never going to be a phenomenal meditator by meditating. That's not something that you, that you, that's not something that you accident or that you intentionally practice. You know what I'm saying? It's like most of the beauty in life happens by complete accident.

Like most of the things you become. The outrageous strength that you see in yourself. Whatever talents, whatever gifts you have, it, it, the feeling inside you should be like you just stumbled upon it. You stumbled upon it by living and by throwing yourself into reality with reckless abandon.

And then you develop skills you don't even know you're developing. I'm probably the great. I'm. I'm a better meditator than the Dalai Lama.

And I ain't ever sat in a room and practiced ever. And I'll out meditate. That do you understand? So you got to complete the full cycle to become what you want to be.

Which means you got to go every which way. You got to experience the entire panoply of emotions. You have to go through it all. And I will die on this hill.

And I still will tell you that the way you truly know you're living. Correct. And I think this is universal because I think life does need to be squeezed to its maximum capacity. Every fucking day is you should be cycling through every single emotion, the entire gamut on a daily basis.

Every day of life should feel like a full lifetime. That's the wisdom. Every 24 hour period should feel like you lived an entire lifetime packed in one. There's death, there's rebirth, there's chaos, there's peace, there's joy, there's melancholy.

Do you understand? Because when you're pushing yourself, when you're pushing yourself, it's like your risk on at all times. It's like look at the sentiment right now in the market. The market is a really good metaphor for this.

It's like people don't want to make moves because they don't feel good, they don't feel right. They don't feel right. They want, they need sort of permission. They need to see the ethos in society kind of recalibrate itself and they, they're looking for sentiment elsewhere, outside themselves.

But real winners, real winners are still making moves. Even when they feel like trash. They're still taking risks, you know what I mean? They're still putting up shots.

How they feel is completely irrelevant. And that's why the common man will never be anything at all. Is because they need market sentiment to push them in the right direction. Whereas a guy like me, if I'm in the fucking pits of despair, in the throes of hell, I'm still taking risk.

It doesn't matter what the market sentiment is. That's all nonsense anyway, you know what I mean? Like the, the recession's. By the way, I don't, I don't sense.

I've personally never lived through a recession in my entire life. I have no clue what anybody's talking about when they talk about a recession. It's like I built in my own, I built in my own recession proof system, you know what I mean? Like, when I've paid for things in my life, I'm playing my own game.

Beating, beating inflation. Beating common household inflation is so easy. Like that's, that's, that's life on easy mode. Anyone can beat inflation.

I've ramped up my own inflation. I play the game at a completely different level than everybody else. If I want to buy something, I pay for what I think it's worth. I don't give a.

If I overpay for anything. Like if someone does a great job, my barber does a great job, I'll throw that 200 bucks. I don't give a. If he's.

I don't give a. If the haircut was 50 bucks. I want to throw him 200 because that's what I think it's, it's worth. You know what I'm saying?

And it doesn't matter how broke I am, I live life the same way. This is why I told you, if you get the lifestyle you want first and you give yourself the freedom of living the way you want to every day, that's your framework. Money really is not going to change your life that much because you're already living the way you want to live. You know what I mean?

It gets really dangerous when you're not living the life you want to live. And then you come into a huge bag, then you're royally. Because you're not going to know how to handle it. I'm doing everything on a daily basis.

Whether I'm worth 10 million or a thousand dollars. I'm doing the same. I have the same power in my local domain. You know what I mean?

Like, things don't change very much. The reason the spaces is called Doubt and Denied is because I made a joke with my boy that when I pull the nose up on the plane here, because I'm about to go. I'm about to embark on one of the biggest runs anybody's ever seen. And I told you, I'm documenting it.

I told you I'm documenting one of the greatest comeback underdog stores that you will ever witness in your life. When it's all said and done and I'm back in my ivory tower, I'm buying a fucking yacht. And the yacht is going to be called Doubted and Denied. It's the name of the.

Yeah, you'll be seeing me sailing in Miami with that jet black Merced out. So that's gonna happen. Let's bring up some to. To piggyback on this.

The historical that I just said is groundbreaking, by the way. You would not be able to challenge me in any forum where what I said is wrong. It's just 100%. My finger on the pulse with this is spot on.

So let's see what we got. Bring up Mr. Pablo.

00:33:33CALLER 1

Hey, what's up, Ruth? Can you hear me?

00:33:34HOST

What's up, bro?

00:33:37CALLER 1

Hey, so I've been having, like, recently, there's a lot of people talking about delayed gratification. And I have kind of like doubts on this because if you really are like, those are kind of like taking life for granted, you know?

00:33:58HOST

Because 100.

00:34:00CALLER 1

If you delay gratification, like, you're kind of like not leaving to live tomorrow. But how do you know you're gonna live tomorrow? You know, it's like. It's like, you know, So I.

I want to like, know your take on this, bro.

00:34:13HOST

First of all, let me just. Let me just predicate this because I know everybody in this space has some sort of like alpha ideal of how to live. Do you understand? The least alpha thing you could ever do is wonder what to do.

Like the. The pure. The pure distilled definition of being an alpha or living an alpha life, even if you're not one, is doing whatever the you think is right. That's it.

Anything beyond you doing what you think is right. That's just classical. That's alpha behavior. Don't matter if it's wrong, right?

What it is left, right up, down, east, west, doesn't matter. You know what I mean? You shoot from the hip and you make decisions as to what you think is right. You are on the Path of bravery, my brother.

That's how it works. The delayed gratification shit is nonsense to me, bro. None of these rules work for me. Like I don't follow a single fucking thing that money Twitter says to do.

And I've been very successful. Not one. I procrastinate. I wait till the last day to fucking do everything.

I fucking am all about instant gratification. I'm fucking toying with my phone. I have a severe phone addiction. I'm on my phone all fucking day, fucking around.

Even in the middle of gym sets, people are like, put your fucking phone away when you're at the gym. It's going to make you weaker. It's like, fuck you, motherfucker. I'll power clean your girlfriend's body weight 350lbs while I'm fucking tinking around and joking around on my fucking phone in between sets.

It's like not, dude, there's no rules. There's, there really isn't. And if you need a system, it's because you're not a natural. And I'm a natural.

I've found my natural proclivities. I find what works for me. I, I lord over chaos. I don't have any systems in place, bro.

Zero, none. None. I don't follow any system. I've never written something down.

I don't schedule appointments, I don't make plans with anybody. I just shoot from the hip. I don't know what I'm doing five minutes from now. No clue.

People ask me all the time, what are you doing today? I'm like, I have no idea. I have no clue what I'm going to do. I just know that my conscious mind is asleep 90% of the time.

And my subconscious mind is genius. When I need to spring into action and I need to get shit done, I am all in. I am all in. I don't do things half ass or tepidly whatsoever.

If I'm going to do anything at all, I am going to go with every extent of my maximum capacity or I'm doing nothing at all. Those are my two modes. My two modes are I'm either a mummy in a catatonic state doing absolutely nothing sitting still, or I am blitzkrieging the world on the front lines to get done. Those are my two modes.

I don't know anything in between. I don't know doing things in a half assed capacity. And that's why I've been very adept and skilled that I've been good at anything I've ever put My mind to I've been really good at because I don't around. I'm not gonna waste my time being average at anything that I do.

If I do it, I'm gonna be the best at it. That simple. And that's always been my philosophy. And that's the hunter brain mentality, you know what I'm saying?

It just is like I'm a natural born hunter mentality. I don't like structure and I despise systems. I despise systems. I don't with other people's systems at all.

I know what works for me. I don't listen to any of these rules, bro. None of them. I make my own.

Absolutely, brother.

00:37:38CALLER 1

Yeah, I think. I think around the same, but yeah. Thank you so much.

00:37:42HOST

You got it, Axel, buddy, Actually, you got one chance or it's a hard block. All right. Another fallen soldier. He's done.

Homegoy eth. Hey, what's up, brother?

00:38:31CALLER 5

I actually thought it was funny that you said that, because when I first started sales three years ago, I came in from like communications in college, you know, I wasn't really thinking about doing sales, but then I had like a pregnancy scare with this girl. So I decided to, you know, get into something quick because, you know, I was taking slow. And my very first month, I was the number one rep in the nation for the company that I sold for. And I didn't have no systems in place or anything.

You know, it was just. It was all natural to me. I just memorized the script very first day. Then I just learned everything in it.

Just adjusted it to the person popped off and I started off really hot. But as I. As I stuck with the company they started, I mean, I learned a lot from each person. You know, you learn from everybody still.

But they were imposing these systems, these ideologies and stuff, and they. They were basically putting a. A new roof to me, you know, or like a new limit that was lower because it wasn't me myself. So.

Yeah, man, I've kind of also learned too recently. Is like, like you said, like the gab David Goggins and like, I mean there's to learn from these guys, but in the end of the day, like, it's all like theory and, and perspective and it's theirs. And you know, take the that you learn from it, but like don't be sucking their dick, you know, that shit's kind of gay.

00:39:55CALLER 1

Yeah.

00:39:55HOST

So I'm gonna interrupt you right there. The. The whole thing with the goal setting stuff is if you have to write down Your goals. Those goals aren't important to you.

And you're never going to succeed at those goals in life. People who have to write down and be reminded to accomplish tasks, you, my friend, are not going far at all. If I have a goal in my mind, you cannot erase that from my mind. You can give me a bottle of hemlock and you can put me on SSRIs.

You can kill my central nervous system for all I give a. I'm never. If I have a goal and I'm attacking something, you literally cannot get that out of my head. I live and breathe and sleep that until it's come to fruition.

So I've never written down a goal. And if you find yourself having to do that, you're just titillating yourself. It's. You're masturbating.

Because those goals are not important. Someone who truly wants a goal and wants to achieve something, they don't need to be reminded to do it. They don't have to fucking stare at a piece of paper or a fucking vision board. You know what I'm saying?

And it's like I've been thinking about why I think therapy is so gay. And I think the reason I do is because therapy, the real therapy, actually, I do see value in journaling. I've talked a lot of shit about journaling before, but basically, I think the whole idea of therapy should be centered around the fact that you are your own father, you are your own confidant. And if you journal your thoughts, you can kind of attack it from that perspective.

But I think the ultimate apex of that is not even having to journal your thoughts on paper. You should be able to just journal in your own head. Like, I'm to a point where I can journal in my own skull, within my own cranium, and I can flesh things out in a very fast, light, agile capacity. And I think that's where you ultimately want to be, is you want to be able to write these scripts in your head.

And then from there, you know, like, you gotta just be you. You gotta be your own patriarch. You got to be your own king. You got to be able to be your own consiglier.

I think that's the name of the game right there.

00:41:59CALLER 5

Yeah, I 100 agree.

00:42:00HOST

I actually, we're not. We're not doing the rambling today. I appreciate the tip off point. I'm gonna keep it moving.

Appreciate it, but appreciate you. Zero soy.

00:42:24CALLER 4

Hey, Brun. How are you? Okay. I wanted to ask you about a cultural thing that I saw that I want to know if it's the same thing.

I saw something about John Delorean. You know, the guy, best guy in Ford. Then he goes to build his own car, his own company. Everything goes the fuck away.

He goes to jail. And I remember his wife that he goes. She goes with the Time magazine, and he dreamed of being in the COVID of Time magazine. And she says to him, look at this.

Like. Like, it was like a curse. He was in the Time magazine, but he was, like, in jail, you know, with. With the orange suit, like, you ruin everything, she says.

And the guy, he sees the magazine and he smiles and he says, you don't understand. Making all the money again is half the fun. It's half of the journey. And I wanted to know how this resonates with you.

With your Mercedes Benz, for example, that you told us. Is it the same thing? Was he talking about the same thing?

00:43:36HOST

100. The same thing, man. You got to approach life from a very light detachment, but also take it seriously. You see, when I tell you that a man needs to become a monstrosity, what I'm really telling you is that you need to simultaneously hold space with every paradox available to you.

Like a true monster, a true man that gets respected and blandishments and love and accolades is a man who is every paradox at once. You're a tyrant, but gentle. You know what I mean? You're a genius, but a.

You're every paradox combined at once. You can. You can toggle modes very quickly. You know what I mean?

And it's like that story you told is a great story because it's the ethos that's embedded in every single man who's a titan of industry. Look at Elon Musk. I saw a montage recently where, look, I think rockets are fake and gay. I don't believe rockets are real.

But the. The. The lesson still remains the same. That motherfucker supposedly has blown up a hundred dozen rockets right on the platform before liftoff.

No one understands how many failures and misadventures and misgivings Elon Musk has truly have. That is a warrior spirit through and through. That motherfucker has failed and been through so much fucking pain to get his legs off the ground. And he's just been relentless.

He's just been absolutely fucking relentless. And it's. It's been true for me, bro. I don't really give a fuck too much about the outcome of anything.

I just put my best foot forward every fucking day, and I have a tremendous amount of energy, which is A spiritual thing, you know what I'm saying? Like I've always said, bro, the biological, the chemical arguments of fucking micro optimization, perfect diet, all that type of. The smartest that I know do not have a good diet. I don't think diet impacts mental capacity in the way that people think it does.

I've never really seen true mental impairment from people on these trash Big Mac diets. Now the body itself will sustain damage. The body itself will 100% experience lethargy and be more tired and like that, it'll get sapped of energy. But as far as the brain, I don't think diet has any impact on the machinations of the brain itself because the smartest engineers, the people who are pushing civilization forward right now, they're on a Big Mac, Coca Cola diet, you know what I'm saying?

And it's like I even think about for myself because I've been thinking recently, I've seen some people on Twitter draw some parallels between me and Ray Pete. Now I am unfamiliar with the works of Ray Pete. I, I know a little bit, I know he's a sugar guy and I believe he's some sort of idealist from, from my very, very rudimentary understanding of Ray Pete. And I think the reason why people draw parallels between me and him is because he's the Apollonian.

He, he has the Apollonian text down correctly and I think I'm the Dionysian version of him. So everything that I'm telling you is coming from anecdotes, it's just coming from personal experience. And he has a more technical approach. Do you understand?

So it's like I'm thinking about hypothyroid. Recently I've been on a carnivore diet. I don't really eat carbohydrates at all. I've been on a high fat steak diet for 20 years.

And I believe that what's happened in my particular case is I think there's no way I would have been able to sustain this long on that diet without the stimulants. So in other words, my, my cigarette consumption is like an auxiliary thyroid. Do you understand? So like the smoke that I'm inhaling becomes like, sort of like a vestigial thyroid.

Like that is 100% supercharging me in a way that I wouldn't be able to with, without carbs. So I think if you're on an all steak diet, I think this, I think the stems do sort of round out the corners, if that makes sense. Bro, this is all Connected. Everything I'm telling you is connected.

It's all about vitality and energy. Everything, everything spawns from there.

00:47:53CALLER 4

Absolutely. I. I can relate a lot to what you said about detachment. And one more thing that I wanted to point out is that always in this documentaries, whatever movies, they'll always try to put it like, oh, look at this evil man.

But when you listen to him, it's not the way it resonates. It's like, this guy, he's actually thinking about, I'll just do it all again. It doesn't fucking matter. It's not like, oh, I lost everything I had, dude.

00:48:24HOST

No, it's never been about that, bro. It's never been about that. That's why I think I've got my personal life. I think I have hold.

I have a vice grip on the master philosophy, which is that the material itself means absolutely zero, man. My life just never changes. It never mattered what kind of money I had. I'm the exact same guy.

My environment changes, but I don't change. I don't change. It's so true, man. That story of DeLorean, it's just like, dude, you can find this microcosm everywhere.

It's right in front of your eyes. It's right in front of your eyes. So I appreciate that. This guy.

00:49:11CALLER 4

I lost you there.

00:49:13HOST

Yo, yo, Hamza. Hamza. Putting kinks in the flow, Yo, Nate, I saw that. I saw that brilliant thread that you produced the other day.

00:49:51CALLER 1

Yeah, thank you, man.

00:49:52HOST

You on the space, need to click this dude's profile and go back to this thread he produced. It's. It's extremely insightful, and I agree with every line and all the pros in the thread. What's up, brother?

I was.

00:50:05CALLER 1

Yeah, I was just gonna actually talk about that. I didn't know if you saw that or not. I really think your sort of picture of listening to obsession or intuition and, like, essentially my idea is listen to intuition and physiology, you know, that's sort of the Ray Pete idea. I talk a lot about him, and essentially I really just think it's following your senses, you know, which I think is our connection to the divine.

When you listen to your obsessions or intuition or edge, as you would say, or. So where I think is, like a thing that I'm seeing, the connection that needs to be bridged is like, where do you see the role of physical health as a base? I know you sort of already talked about it with the. The stimulants in connecting you to your obsession and fueling it rather than just following your obsession and just not caring about the physical part.

So since I tend to think when the health is like, this literally comes first. Like if your gut is. You're not going anywhere.

00:51:14HOST

Yes, but there's an irony there. So there's a horseshoe phenomenon that I've noticed. Like guys have been asking me a lot lately, how do you find your mission? And what's interesting about the question is, I think the fastest way to find a mission is actually to nuke the out of your gut health.

Like if a guy is totally up with ailments and health problems, he's going to get a mission very fast that's readily available to him because there is some sort of murk, like clarity emerges from the sort of epistemic murk is, is, is my experience. So like a motherfucker with nuked gut, that motherfucker has a mission readily available to him. And that's probably to get his health back. But that's the stepping stone.

So for me, what I've noticed is nobody accomplishes anything in an anabolic state. The anabolic state is like the Tesla coil, where you're charging up a lot of energy. All the magic in life, all the force production comes from being in a catabolic state. It's when you're tearing apart your own flesh.

It's when you're eating your own muscle. It's when you're devouring yourself and your own mind. That's when the greatest works of art, that's when the greatest novels are created. It's where people find their genius is in the catabolic state.

Which is why. And this circles back perfectly. The Venice Muscle beach heads that I talk about that are obsessed with anabolism, which has become a right wing phenomenon of being strong and viral at all times. Those don't do anything.

They're the ultimate loiterers. They're the ultimate malingerers. They don't do anything, they don't accomplish anything with all that supercharged energy. So at some point, once you build the foundation of health and you have that peak crystal vitality that everyone's in search of, that's when you have to start devouring it in order to accomplish shit, you know what I mean?

Like, I'm going through it right now. I got a little bit of a fucking power belly right now. I'm usually fucking shredded. I usually have a fucking six pack.

I can't even see definition in my abs right now because I've been fucking, I've been very convivial. I've been enjoying drinking, food, and I haven't been lifting that much. I don't give a. I'm in a catabolic state right now.

But I'm also producing my best works right now. You know what I mean? I'm finishing my book, I got a film crew here, I'm doing my docu series. I'm launching myself into the fucking atmosphere, groping with ideas that other people aren't grappling with right now.

And it's because I'm in a catabolic state. And so it's like, I think what you said in the thread, that was the most profound, one of the most profound insights that you said in that thread. You said something to the effect of when you stopped lifting and you stopped training, that's when you sort of started to upregulate and sort of find your stride. And I found that to be.

To be extremely fucking fascinating. Can you amplify that idea for us?

00:54:02CALLER 1

Yeah, pretty much. My gut was completely fucked. Like, and what you were saying completely aligns with my experience. Was that the worst.

My gut was. Is actually what got me out. It is literally the thing that turned me to the way. I sort of know what you said.

Like, you get inventive when. When shit goes wrong. So that's kind of what led me into discovering the things that I talk about regarding health.

00:54:30CALLER 4

I might.

00:54:30CALLER 1

I learned so much. I talk so much more clearly about it. I understand it so much more clearly. And that led me to the idea that all.

The only way that could improve my health was through listening to the intuition. And my intuition said I'm lifting, My gut's getting even worse. I'm getting bloated all the time. Shit is fucked.

I can't keep it going. So the thing that I did was just have to drop it. I just have to just stop doing it for now. I'll get back to when it's time.

But I had to let my gut heal. And from listening to that, I was able to live properly. And then the thing also was that eating carbohydrates, eating things, eating in the way that supports the metabolism, again, it promotes the flow of energy, promotes the flow upwards. You know, I think life is a constant flow of energy.

And when you support the metabolism through eating carbohydrates, easily digestible food and just this whole picture of preventing harm and supporting energy, which I think kind of is in line with you. That's why I'm. I'm kind of why I kind of want you get into this idea of metabolism and carbohydrates. But I really just think that it's kind of a flow that you kind of just increase and just follow the senses.

00:55:46HOST

I 100% agree. 100% agree. Maybe you have some. Some insight into this. So a personal experience that I've had recently is I started to tinker with coconut water for hydration, and I found a brand who sells raw coconut water.

So it's completely unpasteurized and it's really good. But I've noticed when I drink doesn't quench my thirst at all. And I'm horrifically thirsty afterwards. Doesn't matter how much of it I drink.

I've tested. I've drinking 10 bottles in a day. I'm horrifyingly thirsty, drinking this coconut water, which I thought was supposed to be extremely hydrating. And that's like one of the first times where obviously I'm ingesting a lot more sugar than usual.

Do you have any possible ideas there?

00:56:32CALLER 1

I have a feeling that it's actually making you increase your nutrient requirement. I feel like you might actually be hungry, not actually thirsty. I mean, it sounds kind of silly, but I just. I know what you're talking about that phenomenon of feeling like you're.

You're even more thirsty drinking it. And I think it just has to do with needing more nutrients.

00:56:53HOST

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense because I've been fasting like a recently, like super fasted. Like I'm probably at a thousand calories a day.

00:57:01CALLER 1

I think the issue with fasting for kids that are younger is just how the health was. This is one of the things that I understand the spiritual idea of fasting, but the thing about polyunsaturated fat and all the stressors that the younger kids have gone through, burning polyunsaturated fat is the thing that impairs the metabolism. So I actually considered fasting, and I realized through the reading, Ray Pete, that is really just not a good thing to do. You're elevating free fatty acids in the bloodstream, causing inflammation, and then what this does is impair the metabolism even further.

So then I realized, okay, this is too much of a stress. Someone that's older, who doesn't have the stresses, can get away with not eating carbohydrates, not fasting. But usually in a poor state of health with the younger generations, your liver is not as strong. All these different things you got to be aware of.

So it's like that's kind of the picture that I'm using.

00:57:57HOST

Yeah, that makes A lot of sense. And then from the spiritual perspective, obviously if you look at it through a prism, like if you do have a mission and you're dedicating your body and depleting resources to carry out a mission, that does have a revitalizing restorative effect. That's inexplicable because the mission acts as sort of like. It's almost like plugging your umbilical cord into a nutritional mechanism.

Like the mission will feed you and it'll feed you like virtuous qualities too. It'll feed you love, it'll feed you a sense of community. It'll feed you a lot of things that ordinary things cannot replace. Just having a mission in general is, is the most potent thing for vitality in my opinion.

00:58:45CALLER 1

I would agree. I, I think that the one thing that it does is that it literally on a physiological level increases the metabolism. You know, it's. I think of stuff as flow versus static.

I think flow having stimulating work. Anything that's static is 9 to 5. That's, you know, that's all of the shit that they promote you to do. That's putting you in the middle, you know, like that is what the static is.

That's why people aren't drawn forward. We need to be drawn forward. We need to be chasing, we need to be sprinting. We need to be looking towards desire, we need to be looking towards obsession.

That is the thing that keeps the flow going, you know.

00:59:20HOST

100 agree. So it's fair to say that these cardio obsessive motherfuckers who do these, you know, long term Ironman marathons, they run hundreds of miles. The cyclists, they're constantly just burning themselves to pieces. I believe that they are metaphors in search of a mission and that's why they're doing such strenuous cardio.

00:59:43CALLER 1

Yeah, I actually think that Mo, if you think of like runners, why are they skinny? Why are they. They're pretty much hypometabolic. They are hypothyroid.

And I think the reason that they want to run is because they are getting the illusion of repairing the flow of energy by sprinting or by going on these long distance endurance exercises. But it really, all it's doing is just prolonging the state. It's to going kind of just like almost a fake way of improving it, but it's really making it worse.

01:00:13HOST

Bingo. 100%. So it's a placeholder for having a real mission.

01:00:18CALLER 1

That's what I think.

01:00:18HOST

Yeah, I think so too. I think so too. Whereas the explosive, the hit, the high intensity movements are a little bit more aligned because you know how I've always said, like, the way you train, the way you do one thing is the way you're supposed to do everything. I, I think it's very odd to me how somebody lives a fast twitch lifestyle, but then goes in the gym and trains slow.

Like, I believe you're supposed to train and lift and move the body in the same fashion that you move mentally. Those things reinforce one another. So that's why, like, I love the fast twitch, explosive movements in the gym, because it matches perfectly the biochemistry in my mind. It matches the way my brain works.

So, like, if you put me in a gym and force me to jump on a machine and move slowly for max hypertrophy, that shit's going to slow down my mental capacity. I've always had that intuition.

01:01:14CALLER 1

Yeah, this is, I think that the main picture of like, bioenergetics, or what you would call, like the repeat kind of thinking, is that energy and structure are interdependent at every level. So if you think of, like, the things that you do as either building structure or depleting structure, it will be a guiding principle for everything you do. So again, if you lift and that's the only thing you do as high intensity, think of that as building energy and structure. And if you think of something like long distance endurance, that.

01:01:55HOST

Yeah, I drive with that 100. Beautiful, brother. Anything else? All right, Nate.

Thank you, bro. Appreciate it.

01:02:11CALLER 1

Yeah, I appreciate it, man.

01:02:18HOST

Blend. What's going on?

01:02:24CALLER 6

Hopped in the conversation. Now. I fast pretty regularly and I do it when I'm facing changes. What it's going to do is, my theory is it's going to change your, your mindset because you got to think if you're in the wild and you no longer have food, your brain is going to have to say, what we're doing isn't working, so we need to think differently.

So you almost get like a high where you start looking at, at different perspectives. And the heart of what you're really talking about is, is adaption. So when you strengthen now, if you, if you lift weights, you do the same exercise for a year straight, your body's just going to adapt to that. So you're gonna have to constantly make these changes.

And same thing with the runner. And I would just point out that everyone has different metabolism. So there's different approaches for different metabolisms, different goals. Like you're saying, but I, I see, like the synergy you're talking about,

01:03:16HOST

but

01:03:16CALLER 6

again, and that's different in respect to what the individual is trying to.

01:03:24HOST

Cannot do the rambling anymore. It's got to stop. Zachary. What's up, bro?

What's up, brother? What's up? So, just a quick one..

01:03:38CALLER 1

I don't know if anyone's ever asked you this. This could help the audience.

01:03:41HOST

So the way you speak in your

01:03:43CALLER 1

vocabulary and the way you structure sentences.

01:03:46HOST

Yeah.

01:03:47CALLER 1

How did you learn to do that?

01:03:48HOST

Is this, like, natural to you, or is this something you learned over time?

01:03:52CALLER 1

I guess.

01:03:53HOST

Could you expand on that? No, it's natural. I mean, I was an avid reader in my youth, but whenever I would read a word, I never really had to look anything up. I would just receive it from context clues, and it would just be, you know, downloaded into my firmware.

Like, it's just. It's just always been a natural thing, bro. Like, I've never once had to be a prolific writer or study a book. Never had to do any of that, man.

It's just been a kind of like a naturally unleashing, just like a talent that I've always had, and I've obviously leaned into it heavy. But, yeah, man, I mean, that's. It's a good question. Because it's like, that's not.

You don't get good at things, in my opinion, by studying. Like, it's. I've never had to study anything other than myself. Like, it's just never, never that.

That style has never made any sense to me. Like, I've just always been able to knife through concepts and whatever it is that's. That I needed to retain. I've always relied on my body to retain.

Like, if I read a book and I'm forgetful of main points, I've always just assumed that my. For whatever reason, my lifestyle or my brain and my body does not need to retain that information. And that's why I don't remember. If I remembered it, then it was something that I had to hold on to.

So I'm not going to go back and study concepts that I missed because I just have the natural inclination to assume that if it's not downloaded, there. There's a reason for that. I trust my body, bro, till the bitter end. My body tells me everything that I need to do.

It tells me everything going on, and I've always just used that as sort of my central roadmap. Got it.

01:05:31CALLER 1

Yeah.

01:05:31HOST

I mean, I'm sure you hear it a lot. I mean, your vocabulary is unbelievable.

01:05:34CALLER 1

So.

01:05:35HOST

Just wanted to point that out, man. That's all that's all I got. Thank you, man. Appreciate it.

For sure. Alexander, what's up, buddy?

01:05:49CALLER 1

Hey, sir. Thank you for letting me speak.

01:05:52HOST

Appreciate that.

01:05:53CALLER 1

I'll just be real quick because I know you're doing a fast paced space. Okay. So my last boss work with Bill Gates and I worked with him, just computer programmer dork. But let me get my point.

So basically a lot of people say, oh, Gates mark this. Not really. He was a dummy and his parents were political and socialites in the area where I was working at. Okay.

And I think that's just the same thing with guys like Elon Musk. When you're talking about their points and what they eat and if they're creative or not. I know that doesn't have to go really down deep with what you're saying, but that's just some of the intel that I got. Also, I smoke cigarettes too and train and I like a bunch of your man.

So peace.

01:06:45HOST

Ninja. Taking a second for this to connect. Yo, Christian. Yo, what's good?

What do you think of numerology?

01:07:13CALLER 1

And has it worked for you? Do you believe it?

01:07:16HOST

I mean, I don't really. I don't really with it too heavy. I take it with a grain of salt. I mean, I've done readings just for fun.

They've been pretty lethally accurate if I'm being honest. I mean, Gary on here, he did my reading. I mean, I'm a master number. So I'm probably biased because I'm one of the rare.

Supposedly I'm one of the rare personality types but, you know, use it for like making money. Well, it's interesting. It's interesting because my, my life path number is 11, and 11s are supposedly phenomenal speakers. Obama's an 11.

All the biggest podcasters are elevens. Charismatic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean there's definitely patterns worth recognizing.

But you know, I, I can bore holes in any ontology. Like I can bore holes in any ideology that I want to. It's like I can find tons of. I can find tons of flies.

Flaws in just about any. I can even find flaws in my own philosophy if I really want to. Just using kind of those razors, you know, Occam's razor, hand Lon's razor. Like I'm just good at plunging into and puncturing down to truth.

But it's cool. It's cool. I mean. Yeah.

How is there not validity to the fact that I'm a life path 11? I mean, it, A lot of, a lot of things add up. You know what I'M saying it all makes sense. It does, man, in some very odd way sometimes.

01:08:47CALLER 1

But it's not like 90 accurate.

01:08:49HOST

It's not like nothing's a hundred, man. I take everything with a grain of salt. I take everything with a grain of salt in life, even my own ideas. I mean, I'm.

I'm a very agile thinker. Like, I will discard beliefs in a hurry if I find a better way of doing things. You know what I mean? Like, a lot.

I don't even. I'm unrecognizable to the guy that I was. Even two years ago, I read some of my old tweets. I'm like, I don't even know if I believe that anymore.

01:09:16CALLER 1

Yeah, you gotta, you know, discard and

01:09:20HOST

trash things and regrow 100%, man. How about full moon? Full moon fasting? It's a big thing on Twitter, I don't think.

I honestly don't really participate in those rituals at all. I mean, my girl does, and I kind of have fun with it sometimes, but it's just not really anything that I think has an effect on my life, man. I'm very. I'm very pragmatic when it comes to, like, magic.

If I can't see magic happening before my very eyes, I'm. I'm very, very. I'm a tough nut to crack when it comes to, like that, you know what I mean? I'm just not a Dishes, guys.

Yeah. Yeah, I like it. All right. Thank you.

Thank you.

01:10:09CALLER 1

Yo, sir.

01:10:11HOST

What's up?

01:10:13CALLER 1

Sick right now. 17 years old. Was wondering about your opinion on Arthur Schopenhauer. Looking for books to read.

01:10:22HOST

I don't know too much about him at all. I really don't.

01:10:28CALLER 1

Other German philosophers any stand up?

01:10:34HOST

No. Honestly, no. The interesting thing, bro, is I've gotten a lot of dms. People will.

People will quote passages and send me, like, little blurbs from. From some of these German philosophers. And they'll be like, look, this is an alignment with you. It's like, dude, I've never really read any of this.

I have a very rudimentary understanding of it. If you live life hard enough and go into the belly of the beast, you're going to naturally come across all of these concepts. It's like when people draw lines and parallels to me, to other people, I'm like, that's interesting. But they had to study to learn that.

I just learned that through living life. So it's like you just. You just naturally chance upon these conclusions, man.

01:11:15CALLER 1

Yeah. So a better suggestion for a 17 year old would just be go and do in life and just.

01:11:20HOST

Nah. I think you're still of the age where reading is extremely valuable for sure. I mean I think you should have a voracious appetite and definitely do a lot of reading. I think reading is very valuable in that sense.

But it does come to a certain point, I think in your early 20s where you either write your own book or you just start implementing the, that you're learning.

01:11:40CALLER 1

Awesome. Thank you, bro.

01:11:54HOST

What's up mark?

01:11:58CALLER 2

Hi, Brooke.

01:11:59HOST

Hi.

01:12:01CALLER 2

Well, the question, the question I've got to you is you're talking about like all of these young guys on, when they're on here, it's like they're trying to maximize all elements of their life which is the correct path. But as you get a wee bit older, like I'm a couple years younger than you, but you kind of, you get a level of, kind of confidence and belief that just as like you almost can't fake it when you're 24, you know what I mean? And it, I feel like you just kind of, you become a lot more settled in exactly what you're all about. And like I think obviously it's a bit easier in life in sales because I've got one business as well.

And you know, when you're speaking to people at this age as opposed to when you're like 24, you know, I mean trying to speak, trying to sell, people obviously take you a lot more seriously. I was just wondering your take on

01:12:45HOST

that people take you seriously. What, what's that last part?

01:12:51CALLER 2

No, I'm just saying, you know, people are in their 30s. You became, your confidence is more just kind of, it's kind of settled through experience of life as opposed to say for example, trying to get your, you know, trying to go down rabbit holes of philosophy or trying to get jacked when you're younger, do you know what I mean? You've got like, you just know yourself a lot better. It seems to, it seems to rub off if you know what I mean, when you're actually speaking to people in, in business when you're a bit older.

I'm just wondering your take on that. You know how much easier it is in your 30s when it comes to business selling to people, convincing people. Do you know what I mean?

01:13:26HOST

Well, yeah, I mean age is hella status. That's what these younger guys don't understand is age is instant quick status, you know what I mean? Readily available in the pop can. It's a, it's the pause that refreshes when you hit a certain mid-30s, you ain't even in your prime yet.

And I have a theory that I'm rotating that I think is 100 true. It's that I think the 40s for a man is their prime golden years. I don't believe at all. I think your 40s is your best decade on this planet.

If you did. If you did it right, your 20s is. Your 20s is. Is just the.

Is. It's the experimentation phase. It's where you can crash and burn everything a million times and find a bunch of different iterations of yourself, one that you can finally respect. You know what I mean?

I said this on the last spaces. You can actually piss away your whole 20s and be a phenom in your 30s. That's a very, very probable life path. But I think.

01:14:18CALLER 2

Yeah, sorry, continue.

01:14:19HOST

I think a lot of these guys in their 20s seem to think that once you hit past 25, that you're getting old and that life gets shittier. And it's. It's very, very far from the truth. You know what I mean?

I think it's part of the inversion. Women used to be scared to pass the age of their early 20s. Now you got guys on here talking about they're scared that they don't have kids when they're 30. The.

Is that.

01:14:43CALLER 2

Yeah, I would agree. It's absurd because I. I feel like my 20s to an extent mirrored yours. I mean, I know you say you.

You're out, You're. You're. You're. You're kind of building relationships, socializing.

You put yourself out there probably a little bit more than. Than what I did. But as an observer or a thinker, you're always learning how people work, etc. And that's like a great tool that you can.

It's all. It's not very monetizable when you get to your 30s, you know what I mean? Because you know more than, than a lot of people in that regard. But also what you're saying about.

I mean, I know people at my age that are like, coming up mid-30s, and they almost. They think of themselves as over the hill. And I find that. I find that strange.

01:15:21CALLER 1

It's.

01:15:22CALLER 2

It's a strange one.

01:15:24HOST

Yeah. I mean, it's pathetic is what it is, bro. I mean, it's pathetic. It's pathetic, bro.

My hair is graying. I got wrinkles. I got crow's feet coming out of my eyes. I don't have a skincare routine.

I don't wash my face and use Tonics and all this weird, bro, I'm embracing, I'm embracing the fuck out of senescence and aging. It's the fucking best part of being a man, bro. You get that wizard patriarch fucking arc. That's the fucking best place to fucking be, bro.

I have, I think anti aging is one of the gayest, most homosexual enterprises that a man could undertake. I don't give a fuck what I look like, in fact, give me. I honestly am looking for ways to accelerate my aging. That's where I differ from these motherfuckers on Twitter.

I want to be aged. I want to drive my body into the fucking floor and see what's possible. You know what I'm saying? Like, I want my face to look as leathery as fucking possible.

Bruised. I don't give a fuck. You know what's funny, man? I had this.

I was, I was just around with my boy the other day and I was joking about the fact that I, I guarantee you in this soft ass culture that plastic surgery, plastic surgery is going to do a 180 and I guarantee you guys are going to start getting plastic surgery to add battle scars to their faces. I have this feeling that as things get into this more rugged era, men are going to get plastic surgery to look tougher and they're going to get plastic surgery to add in and tattoo like scars and weird on their face to make them look more masculine. That's what I think is we're headed. I, I think we're headed in the complete opposite direction of youth and beautification.

Like, bro, I want to age. I don't give a fuck. Like I don't give a fuck how my face ages. I don't give a flying fuck.

I'm looking for ways to accelerate aging because I believe there's a ton of wisdom in that and I believe there's a ton of self acceptance in that.

01:17:22CALLER 2

It says very like, if you say to like my brother's girlfriend, she does her line of work, she does the injections to people and that and she's like saying, would you ever get that? And you're like. And I'm like, no, I couldn't care less. But it's, you know, you're maybe in your late 20s or so, you see, see changes in that and by the time you, a few years later pass and you just, you don't get, you don't really care.

01:17:44HOST

It's kind of like it because, because nothing can replace being a man. But being a man, that's what no one, no, that's what no one understands, bro. It's like it's. Whatever's dangling between your legs is what makes you a man.

You know what I'm saying? It's like that's why these body types, these doughy pudgy are getting all the chicks that these guys want because they're just, they're, they're their true nature, their true essence is masculine. It's not about what you look like as a man whatsoever. It's completely irrelevant.

Completely, completely irrelevant. There's nothing that can replace being a man. Not even owning Google, not even fucking owning fucking Space X. Like Elon Musk.

Like your accomplishments literally can't even eclipse being a fucking man, dude. There's no proxy. There's no proxy for it. It's the one thing that you actually have to be to fucking orchestrate and to make it happen.

And so I, I am completely against the anti aging fucking regimens. You know what I mean? Like, dude, I have furrowed brows. I've had people offer me Botox and, and I just laugh in their face.

That's the gayest, gayest thing I could ever possibly imagine doing. My hair's been graying since I was 19. I've always rolled with it. I would never dye my hair.

The day I dye my hair is where I give you permission to put a bullet in my head. Please, just.

01:19:05CALLER 2

It's so formal. It's such a foreign way of thinking to the majority of people. They just cannot understand how you're content with it. It's, it's, it's so.

It is pathetic, as you say. It's like. Well, that's what it is.

01:19:17HOST

You know what I mean, dude? It's your essence, man. Your essence is everything that matters. It's what people feel when you talk.

It's what people sense when you walk. It's, it's, it's, it's a, it's an aura. It's imperceptible. You know what I mean?

Like, the thing that makes you a man is completely imperceptible. It's the way you carry yourself. It's your fucking posture. It's all the things that are unsaid.

It's all the things that are unseen. That's the beauty of being a man. That's why I tell you that men are the irrational sex, because men have. Men are the hiders of their talent.

You know what I'm saying? Like, a man is judged on his essence, whereas a woman is more logically assessed. A woman is assessed by very base Things like beauty that's just very readily apparent to you. But a man, there's so much more to the machinery.

There's so much more going on under the hood to a man that's imperceivable and imperceptible. You know what I mean? That's why I told you the pretty boar, the pretty boy archetype is cursed. And the blessed archetype is rugged handsome.

01:20:18CALLER 2

Because you don't tend to get the pretty boy archetype that actually is psychologically one step ahead all the time. You know, when you're talking about understanding women, when you're talking about, you know, it's rare to get those pretty boys that actually have that kind of grasp of what's going on. It's. It is, it is quite rare that.

01:20:37HOST

Oh, oh, buddy, let me tell you something. The pretty boys are as close to the incel. They're much closer to the incel than you could possibly imagine. Yeah, the pretty boys.

The pretty boys are ran through. And men are definitely jealous for sure. That's 100 fact. But these are ran through.

And women put a lot of their darkness on these men because these guys have a really hard time locking down a. For an extended period of time. They can get sex all day easily. But maintaining, Maintaining a relationship and maintaining standing is really, really tough for these guys.

That's why I said the incels should be a little bit easier on themselves because they're closer to the cursed pretty boy than you think. And like I just said, the blessed archetype is rugged handsome. Because rugged handsome actually does command natural respect from both sexes. Is.

It's implied. It's implied. It's tacit. You know what I mean?

It's like something that you can't even really articulate, but everybody knows it when they see it. It's like a. It's like the Icarus thing, man. If you get, if you're too hot as a guy, it's like flying too close to the sun.

Women don't take you seriously and other men don't take you seriously.

01:21:50CALLER 2

Yeah, no, it's true. See, even with like example, like if you, if you, if, if you've got, you've seen a girl, you know, even someone from the past, but you've, you've. You've kind of like fleshed a problem that she's been having that she can't kind of wrap her head around and she fights. Oh, crazy.

This guy really knows what he's. You know, he understands you almost kind of. You're in Their mind for, you know, you're kind of in their mind, as you say, locked. You know, it's like, because.

Because obviously you're something different. You're. You're. You're.

You're aware, if you know what I mean, you actually understand. It's. It's quite rare in that regard nowadays.

01:22:26HOST

Yeah, I mean, look, the psychological avenues is where you. Is where you demonstrate competence, and it's also where you demonstrate dominance nowadays. You know what I mean? In the current.

Current climate, it is a psychological battleground, and I do believe women need to feel the full force and expression of what you're able to do mentally. The mental gymnastics. You got to be able to hang in the game with women from a mental perspective. You got to be a better gamer than they are.

That's just like you. You. That's. It's a must.

This is not. This is mandatory learning here. You know what I mean? You got to be cat like.

And you gotta have that anima, bro. Let me tell you something. Mask anger is masculine, but rage is feminine. And a lot of guys don't understand this.

And I've always talked about how the hyper masculine archetype is closer to the feminine than you could possibly think. It's an eyelash away from flowing into the feminine. Look, there was an article that came out, I think, a couple days ago, and everyone was calling this guy a. But they missed the point.

This dude, Israel Adesanya, this UFC fighter, the guy's literally about as alpha and hyper masculine as you could possibly imagine. But what he did is. And this is a publicity stunt, but the lesson remains the same. He.

He's painting his nails for this fight. He's painting his nails, and he publicly stated. He's like, look, bro, I'm gonna paint my nails feminine, and I'm gonna knock you out with these painted nails. Now, what.

No. What no one understands is that this is a man who is so hyper masculine that he can now afford to experiment with the feminine anima, which is rage. So him painting his nails is an artistic expression of rage. Now, I will tell you this, okay?

And I'm going to fucking. I'll put my name on the line on this one. This man is going into this fight enraged, feral, with the fierceness of the feminine, the type of fierceness you see in the lion kingdom, where a female lion protects her young. This man is using this energy to foment and stoke this entire fight.

The other he's pitted against is. Is stuck in anger. Rage wins against anger. All day of the week.

And that's what no one wants to understand is that the hyper masculine does have a very feminine side. They have a woman within, a wilder woman within that drives them forward. You know, if you've ever paid attention, you will notice that a lot of these very powerful historical figures that we look up to, these. These heroes and these titans of industry, these who are magnets and firebrands, a lot of these men had very, very terrible love lives.

Very terrible love life. They had a very, very difficult time holding down a wife. They get cheated on. They're constantly being fled from.

And what I believe the phenomenon going on here is, is that these men are so hyper ambitious and they've been so enraged, and they have such a fierceness in them that is feminine that they basically have a woman within them that is driving them forward. So because they have a woman deep inside them, they almost don't even need the comfort and love of another woman, if that makes sense, because there's a woman with. There's a woman within pushing them.

01:25:51CALLER 2

And so do they care, though, when they're cheated on? You know, I mean, it's like. I mean, do these guys. Do they.

Do they really care? You know, it's.

01:25:59HOST

Of course they care because it puts. It's a Rorschach test. It puts their masculinity in the spotlight. And 100 is an assault on the ego.

But, yeah, these men are complete in the sense that the anima and the animus, the masculine and the feminine within inside them are reconciled. And that's why they're able to do extraordinary things that normal people can't comprehend or understand is because their shadow is integrated. The shadow is integrated. This is real adesanya.

His shadow is integrated. And he's. Yeah, he's using kabuki feeder to make it entertaining for the audience. And a guy with a low IQ will say, no, he's just being a.

By painting his nails. It's like, dude, you don't understand the expression. Like, you don't understand the symbolism behind this. This is channeling feminine forces which are extremely chaotic and powerful.

Like, no, no, this motherfucker's gonna maul. He's gonna maul this other guy. He's gonna get mauled. He's gonna get gored like a ox.

I'm telling you, the writing is on the wall.

01:27:07CALLER 2

I'll keep my out for it anyway.

01:27:09CALLER 3

I'll let.

01:27:09CALLER 2

I'll let you go. I'll let someone else speak Ch.

01:27:18HOST

Get kenny up here. Yo, Kenny. All right, we gotta get. Gotta Get.

Yo, yo, yo, yo, Brute.

01:27:36CALLER 1

So you've been talking about this energy and vitality in life. So just wondering how

01:27:44CALLER 3

me as a

01:27:45CALLER 1

young man can harness it and like bring it to surface. I don't know how, how it really works.

01:27:53HOST

Give me a very, very brisk synopsis of what your day to day looks like. Quickly go into it. How do you spend? What's your job?

What's your job?

01:28:09CALLER 1

My job right now is in sales.

01:28:12HOST

It's in sales. So it's eat what you kill. Correct. You're on commission full.

01:28:17CALLER 1

Well, I'm still looking for jobs like outreach.

01:28:21HOST

Okay. Do you, have you ever had your back against the wall or do you have cushy safety nets? Do you have infrastructure in your life right now? If you fail, if you fail on any endeavor, do you have parents that are going to clean up the mess?

Do you have, do you have cushion?

01:28:39CALLER 3

Possibly.

01:28:40CALLER 1

Parents could be your cushion.

01:28:43HOST

Okay, so the only way to awaken the beast within a man is to have, is to live life with no safety nets. Meaning if you fail an endeavor or if you fail a risk and you have nothing, when I say nothing to fall back on, I mean only yourself. And there is a weird phenomenon where when men know in the back of their head that someone will always clean up the messes that they make, they get severely emotionally handicapped and hamstrung. It's like being cut off at the knees.

So the only expression that I've been able to see work in this domain is men that are taking huge risks. Not just, I'm not talking just financially. I'm talking about like with your safety, sanity, livelihood, all that. Like, look, sales is all fine and dandy, right?

Sales is great. But what sales really is. What sales really is at the end of the day. And I'm sure you're selling somebody else's product.

If you're selling somebody else's product, there's no way you're living at full capacity. I don't give a how much people make. I don't give a if you're the most killer salesman. If you've done 200 million in sales, if you're selling somebody else's product, you are living a docile life.

It's just that simple. It's just that simple. So if you want to awaken the beast, I would say that you have to be an enterpriser. You have to start some sort of domain that's under your own command.

And you have to be willing to crash that ship into the front of the iceberg. Have to. Whether That's a side project or not, because that's the only way that you're going to pull off the mask and reveal who you really are. That's it.

There's no other way to do it. Yo, Bruce Gallagher. Amen. The up and coming rising star.

Talk to us. So last, last space, I think you said you, you ran up 17 mil and then blew it in like I think you said, a few years. Can you just, can you touch on that? How you, how you ran it up in the first place and how you blew it.

And then like lastly, if I think you said that, you kind of, like you said you have systems in place now so you don't do it again. Is it even the wrong thing to do to just run it up, blow it and then just repeat that cycle on going. That's a good question. So in 2017, I went on an improbably statistic tear that I don't know that has ever been done before.

I started with about 10 grand and I turned it into 17 million in six months. I went on a streak that is one of the wildest stories you could possibly ever hear. It's almost unbelievable. It's surreal.

I couldn't even write about it. I do have documentation and I flirted with the idea of releasing the string of bets because I have all the tickets that actually brought me up there. But basically I was taking shots in the most wild, wounded animal fashion you could possibly imagine in your life. I was putting up shots.

I was trying to lose, quite frankly. And when you live in a way where you're at max entropy and you have so much fucking gusto, sometimes things fucking click for you. And it did for me. But the thing is, when I torched all that money, it was very, very fast.

I bought a bunch of toys. I had a fucking Rolls Royce don't convertible. I bought a three million dollar penthouse in Vegas. I had assets, but I ravaged through them really quickly and liquidated everything as I was falling backwards.

Now the interesting thing about that story is when I torched the money, I was not rattled. I was not shaken up at all. I didn't think about yesterday. I wasn't, I wasn't forlorn, I wasn't crestfallen.

I wasn't looking for a balcony to jump off. It was, it was proof and reinforcement to me that not only would I get it all back, but what. I would get it all back in a fashion that would far exceed whatever I had before. That was, that was the grand epiphany for me.

Was that the money didn't change a thing. Yeah, I had a little bit more fun, but dude, I was always that guy. I was always that guy. So I always knew in the end game things, when things played out, I always knew I was going to get fall into a bag like that.

Of course, because I'm psycho, I'm gonna find I'm putting up shots that no one can even comprehend. I'm placing wagers that are so stomach wrenching that no one can understand. I'm willing to see, here's, here's the difference between me and the, and the, in the average person, whatever I have at my disposal on a daily basis, I'm willing to put at risk. And that makes you very, very dangerous.

Meaning I don't live like tomorrow exists. I don't give a fuck about the future. I don't, I don't ever look ahead to the future. I don't think about tomorrow.

I don't think about planning. I don't think about security. I am willing to put whatever the I have in front of me on a day to day basis and I'm willing to put it at risk. I don't give a.

Because I know I'm always going to get it back because I'm so reckless. It does have a rubber band effect where I'm able to pull in and haul in and do magic tricks that people cannot comprehend. I always come into windfalls of massive sources of money. And it comes when I least expect it, when I'm just chilling, when I'm relaxed, when I'm just putting up shots.

Living my life ordinarily like nothing in my lifestyle changes. That's the thing that I'm trying to tell you. You know what I mean? Like that's the wisdom.

The wisdom is, is I'm the same guy no matter what's in my pocket, what's in my bank account. So I can afford to put up shots that an ordinary person doesn't can't afford to put up. Because I know if I lose same guy, in fact, my swagger increases my swagger and my confidence increases the more misfortune that God puts in front of me. You know what I'm saying?

Like one of my favorite quotes in a movie, the movie Lethal Weapon. Danny Glover and Mel Gibson. Danny Glover just had his daughter kidnapped in the movie and he's been going through absolute hell. His whole personal life's falling apart.

They're two cops and they're, it's, it's a buddy cop movie and Danny Glover's Driving late at night and it's raining, and he's driving a beater, and he turns to Mel Gibson in the driver's seat, and he's like, look, man, he's like, the only way I can describe what's happening right now is that God must seriously hate me. And Mel Gibson turns to him and casually says, yeah, well, you better start hating him back, because it works for me. And, like, that moment just completely encapsulates the masculine imperative of, like. There's so many times in your life where you're on a bad streak or things are going wrong, and you.

You almost get the sense that there's a curse on you. You get the sense that some divine deity is holding you back. Like, it's. It's inexplicable how you could run into a streak of such bad luck and you start to feel like God despises you.

Well, the reality of the situation is, is that it's not that nature loves courage. It's that God loves courage. And when you have the balls to stick your chest out and return the hatred to the invisible entity that you think is hating you and you're willing to clash your antlers up against his, that's when you start to get rewarded, and that's when you earn the undying love of God, the universe. So that's what l.

That's what luck is. Luck is just a product of a. Who's willing to show more hatred towards the invisible forces that are crushing him in that very moment. And that's why Mel Gibson says that it works for him, because what he's really saying is he's not taking it so seriously.

You know what I mean? He's just going to return fire. He's just gonna return fire no matter what the circumstances are. That's slick.

I don't know how long my bio has been. God loves bravery, but, yeah, that's slick, man. How do you. How do you live that life where it's just every single 24 hours, you reset the clock and throw it all on the line?

That kind of, like, raw dog lifestyle? How do you. How do you run that? If you have a.

A group of your boys, your family, all right, and there's girlfriends and there's younger brothers, and it's all kind of like with you. How do you run that? If it's. If it's not just you solo out and about, dude, it makes you so hungry to stay on offense.

Like, you can never really afford to slack and play defense when you're in that Mindset. So every single day you're waking up a ravenous beast because you know you got to make stuff happen. So it just keeps your fingertips on the wheel, man. And the thing is, is like, you're always, you're always searching, you're always hunting, you're always looking for a rock to upturn.

Dude, the craziest thing about modern day America, I don't think you live in America, but the. The point still remains the same is like the, the opportunities, the boundless opportunities that exist every single day. To flip little money into crazy money is so absurd. Like, I have a boy of mine who put 150 bucks into some fucking Pepe coin earlier this year. 150 bucks, and he turned it into 300 grand.

And I think a month or some, like, that's, that's a return. But here's the thing. These opportunities are happening every day. Like, you have to have the faith and confidence that there is a correct sequence of moves on a daily basis where these massive jackpots and avalanches are triggered.

It's a fact. There's moves right now that exist in every marketplace where if you sequence them together chronologically in the right sequence of moves, you have a 3,000, 5,000, 10,000X. Every day. Every day this is happening.

And I've seen it and I've witnessed it. So why the would I ever get down on myself for a loss or if I took a shot and I got rocked when I know the next day there's that same opportunity right in front of my face, You know what I mean? And then, and then, bro, like you, you talk about family and kids and I mean, dude, I have a family. And having the family reinforces this identity even further.

I've taken more risk since having a family because I love when the pressure cookers on because that intensity just mounts and mounts and mountains and mounts. I cannot sit still in my living room ever feeling sorry for myself. No matter what kind of misfortune I come across, I can't do it. I have.

I'm awake. I wake up so energized to get out of my house and attack the day. Make phone calls, find opportunities, craft things. I'm a craftsman, you know what I mean?

Like, I'm just always, always putting together, always building my army, bro. I have a legion behind me, you know what I mean? And I think that's how you survive these storms, is you do have to have a militia. You have to have like a private militia that basically works under you, and you have to have zealous disciples who are willing to go through the war with you.

I mean, God knows, man, right now as we speak, I got like 10 guys who are rolling with me every day. We got the fucking US Open tennis tournament right now. This is my biggest tennis tournament of the year. This is where I make the most amount of money and I got who are flying out here, sitting in rooms with me.

We're deploying crypto. We're firing to the moon every day. If we lose, we reload. We're hitting up everybody.

We're building funds, we're building all sorts of every day because I have that loyalty. Because I'm willing to stand in front of everybody and take the heat. And you can only live this life if you're willing to take all the heat. I want it.

I want the smoke. I want to stand in front of everybody. Let me take the pain. Let me take the pain for everybody.

I will hold it simultaneously on my big ass shoulders and we're gonna get through it because I don't quit. That's the thing, bro. And I was saying that earlier, no matter what the sentiment in the market is, I'm risk on at all times. Because this is one.

Like right now, bro, is a perfect example. Everyone's being a right now because everyone believes in the recession. Everyone's looking at the axis on the charts. They're freaking out about the market, the decline.

The Bears, bro, the bears are going to get crushed this year. This year, I'm telling you, next couple months, crypto is going to pop off again. It's got another run. It's got legs, there's money everywhere.

Real estate's still fine. These are tripping about doom and gloom. Like, things are phenomenal right now. And the smart guys who have dry powder on the side who are going through the max pain right now because the market's not that volatile, these are going to become living gods.

This is how you become a living God, is when you can take the max pain and you keep a little bit of powder on the side and you spread it out, bro. Some of these small market caps, we're talking generational, multi, generational wealth is about to be created here. 100%, I would say, all the way up through 2025. Like, this is the time to start stacking money. Fear, greed, every.

There's blood in the streets. Everyone's freaking out. These, bro, this, we're like at the stone bottom right now. It ain't getting lower than this.

This is the time to buy. So it's Like, I have teams. I got guys under my belt right now who are stacking bread. We got cheddar loaded.

My cannons are loaded. We got money in the gun. Like I said, bro, I have. I've had two people from Twitter fly out this last week to sit with me in a hotel lobby.

And we have mapped this out systematically. We're. We're gearing up for the biggest play this week on tennis. We got bets going every day.

We got crypto, bro. It's a. It's an army. And so that's how I survive the storms, is I have that private militia.

I have people who will die for me because I don't ask anybody to do something I ain't willing to do.

01:42:54CALLER 1

You.

01:42:55HOST

So if you're deploying capital, I'm deploying capital. And I'm putting every thing I got, My shirt, my livelihood, I'm putting everything in the middle. How do you not get behind a guy like that? How do you not get behind a.

Who's willing to do that? Because most people want to lead from the back, and I lead from the front. So, bro, networking relationships, it all stabilizes the system. It all stabilizes the system.

You know what I mean? Like, I. I love working with sickos. You.

You have to be a little bit mentally deranged to pull off these huge scores, and those are the only type of. I'm interested in working with. I know you can relate. I see your feed.

Phenomenal, man. I dig it. Yeah. Appreciate you, brother.

Let's get this guy. Daniel. Yo, Daniel. Daniel.

Come on, boy. Yo, you said that you're a hunter, right? I mean, you tell me, do farmers have a chance in winning in life? Say that again.

Do farmers have a chance in winning in life? Yeah, dude. Yeah. It's natural part of the ecosystem.

Farmers need hunters. Hunters need farmers. I've been saying this. Look, bro, the.

The true. The true path of life that no one really wants to accept, and if they did accept this, their life would be a lot better, is like, there's guys who refuse to accept that they're just slightly down on the totem pole than other people. There's people who refuse to accept that they're beta. There's nothing wrong with being a beta, with being a shadow guy, with being second in command.

Bro. Have great lives. A lot of them. They are more than capable of having an endearing loving wife and kids and good income.

And the. Here's the. Here's the thing, though. If you're a farmer brain, you have no choice but to join Alliances with hunters.

Because you don't want the spotlight. A natural Beta doesn't want the limelight, they don't want the spotlight and they don't want the smoke. But where they really, really, really are useful and utilitarian is when they're pitching in with men who are bred for and from war. And tributaries.

Estuaries have an uncanny ability of uniting downstream. So when you take a Beta and you take an Alpha and you combine them together, the beta finds fulfillment and contentment with seeing the Alpha win. Do you understand? Because when the Alpha wins, it elevates everybody, including the Beta.

It's just that the problem is in society, everyone wants to be the Alpha. Too many chiefs, not enough Indians. It's very hard to lift projects off the ground that way. You gotta have who accept their identity for what they are.

Find a winner. The beta's job is to locate winners and ask how they can help in pitching. That's it. And then you are literally straddling the line of your destiny.

You are accomplishing and bringing to fruition your destiny as a man. There's nothing wrong with that role. It's a. It's a pivotal, central, integral role.

Right now. You know, most of these influencers that you see that are absolutely raking in dollars and fame and status and whatever right now, it's a bunch of Betas around them who are making it happen. It's the Betas behind the scenes who are the brilliant marketers, the brain trust, the guys who are coming up with the clever edits. Those are the Betas.

Those are the Betas that are smart enough to accept their role and they're helping winners push the agenda. And those betas are fat and happy. They're fucking fat and happy because they're doing exactly what they're designed to do. By nature, not everyone is a fucking apex Alpha warlord.

That makes zero sense. And that's why society right now is a little bit twisted and contorted, is because people have been taught that you need to be Alpha to have a great life. That's far from the truth. I told you, I said this on a last basis.

We are soon entering the era of the common man. Even the people who are on the front lines right now, like the number ones, they're not really living the best life. It's actually the Betas right now that are running society because Betas invented capitalism. Do you understand?

It's not Alpha males who invented Wall Street. It's Betas because Betas are brilliant behind the scenes and they're the Ones who build technology and build as a defense mechanism for not being alpha. So it's like, that's why Zuckerberg's a beta. That's why Elon Musk, you could even call him a beta, because betas and alphas are closer than you think.

So a lot of these beta males, because they don't have the natural raw skill set to succeed, they have to go build and invent to make a name for themselves. You get me? Yes. 100%. Yo, power.

Got stage fright. Got stage fright.

01:49:01CALLER 1

Yo, Brute, thank you, bro, for changing my mindset, but I'm gonna go now. Yeah, thanks, man.

01:49:09HOST

Yo, Joey, trying to connect to you, bro. Think your connection's. Yo, an hour. What's up, buddy?

Yo, how you doing, brother? I'm great.

01:49:34CALLER 2

You can hear me?

01:49:34CALLER 1

Yep.

01:49:36CALLER 3

So I had a quick question. It's basically about the last tweet that you put up about holding too much frame makes you too passive.

01:49:44HOST

Yeah.

01:49:45CALLER 3

My father constantly tells me about keeping things to myself, but I constantly found myself outrageously just speaking about the things that I'm doing. And it's this constant thing of, like, thinking that I need to kind of keep things to myself, but I don't find it more of a thing where I see more results with that. I remember when I was doing sales at this Honda dealership, and I was talking the most, and I was giving people's faces, and I mean, like, literally saying, I'm about to take the money out of your own pocket and literally pointing at people's faces that I'm gonna absolutely just destroy everyone. This is like two months of being in sales, and I got, like, first number one salesman throughout four to five months.

But then after that, things went crashing because you said one thing about when you basically happen to just keep that constant momentum once you're winning. I found myself kind of sabotaging myself. And I kind of spoke to my dad about it, and he mentioned one of the things about keeping to yourself, and then that's when things went downhill. So I just wanted to see what you had to say about that.

And going on from there.

01:51:01HOST

When you started to hold things in and not make these grand proclamations, you're saying you backslid hard.

01:51:10CALLER 3

Yes.

01:51:12HOST

Yeah. So the hardest thing to do as a man is to do what you just said. It's to. It's to constantly make grand proclamations and make them true.

It's extremely resource intensive, and it's extremely exhausting, especially if your self image doesn't align with that person of success. It takes A very, very rare caliber of breed of the type of man who can constantly talk his way to the fucking top. Because obviously there's accountability levels along the way that you have to hit. There's metrics and shit and quotas that are invisible that you, that you have to hit as soon as you're upstepping.

You know what I'm saying? So in your case, the self sabotage was obviously done on purpose because you exhausted yourself, you were outperforming your self image. Now here's something interesting. Poor.

It depends on your upbringing, okay? Kids who grow up in a wealthy, affluent environment, if you drop para. Drop them anywhere in the world, they'll get rich in a year sheerly out of their disgust of poverty because of the upbringing, right? We're talking about blood here.

Poor people are poor simply because they don't want to get wealthy. They'll tell you that they want to get wealthy, but they don't really want it. Because poor people grow up in an environment and it's almost like a genetic memory. Especially if you have come from many, many, many ancestors of people who are poor and came from poverty, it's very difficult to break out of your own cast.

And the reason is, is because those poor people, they only know how to do grunt work and they only know how to stay in the trenches. That's why this glamorization of being in the trenches has sort of become a presiding philosophy around these parts. Because it's poor people who are seeing other people be successful on the Internet, but they can't successfully break out of their cast. You know what I'm saying?

It's like the poor people just are permanently fucking spinning their wheels and in the mud in the trenches. And if you drop them anywhere in the world, they're really not going to really exceed those bounds. Now, obviously there's nuance to this, but the only reason we know of the type of stories of people who break beyond this, there's plenty of stories of broke immigrants who come here and become rich as. But the reason we know of those stories is precisely because they're sensational, they're unorthodox.

You don't hear about that too often. So when you do see a broke immigrant who breaks out of that sort of transcendence and rises to the top and breaks his sort of blood barrier that he's had, it's a fucking phenomenal story to tell. It's just that you don't hear that too often. So what I'm assuming, and I'm probably right, I'M assuming you come from a lower middle class home?

01:53:53CALLER 3

Yeah, I come from first generation here. My father moved over here.

01:53:57HOST

First generation. So the hardest thing for a man to do, understand this, is to exceed his father. Most of the limits that a man imposes on himself psychologically, men have a very, very difficult time trying to traverse past whatever their father has done. But I will tell you that the very proof of your existence is designed for you to exceed your father.

It's just the hardest thing to do. A lot of men have a very bizarre guilt and shame around passing whatever their dad did. And so they're usually. And this is a rite of passage that not too many people discuss.

There usually is sort of a grand finale clash and confrontation between a boy and his father as he's getting older, where the boy leaves the kingdom, goes and finds his own mission, and then comes back a winner. And then he's able to have an ordinary relationship with his father. But you, it's. Look, if.

If a men who grow up with a perfect, symmetrical, harmonious relationship with their father, that never have any conflict, the guy never goes off on his own path. Those are the guys that never exceed what their dad did. Those are the guys that maintain that blood barrier that I'm telling you about and they remain in their caste system. It's the guys who had the balls to break out of the mold and go do something for themselves, who, once they find their identity, once they've done that, shedding that proverbial shedding of their skin, they're able to come back and reintegrate themselves into the family unit, a better man.

So if you've never had this glorious sort of meltdown with your father, you've missed out on a very, very seminal, very, very important rite of passage in a man's life, if that makes sense. So what I'm telling you is if that has not happened, which I assume it has not for you, I assume you have not had some grand battle with your father. Correct.

01:55:58CALLER 3

Grand battle as in a winning bringing a gold medal home, is what you're saying?

01:56:01HOST

Grand battle as in sort of not seeking permission from him, but doing your own thing and having a period of reticence of silence where you're doing your own thing and in the back of your head you know he's watching.

01:56:16CALLER 3

Yes. So just a little back sort of story. My father basically lived a fast life and burnt it all before I was born. And essentially for my end, I never, I never really understood or happened to see any of like success from my Father, it was more of like alienated from him.

I can't even like puzzle pieces him unless I look at photos and whatnot. But fast forward. When I was in high school, I happened to drop out and I very much resonate with all the things that you say I probably listen to all the time. But to fast forward into it, I basically dropped out and pursued the career of acting and went four years in and I did everything that I said I was going to do.

And then I got affiliated with some chick. But now I'm back into a whole different spec where I'm basically taking all of the, the gadgets and the weapons that I've taken from the entertainment place into sales. And now it's a whole different spec because acting is just one direction. And one of the things that you mentioned is that you're constantly delving deep into, in quote, the abyss of basically constant non sleep delving deep into all these different things.

For me, right now I'm in a place where I have that drive. I understand the whole concept of like literally sleeping for two hours and manically roaming around the house, people looking at you as if you're crazy. But there's periods where I find myself literally crashing, burning, literally non con. It's like a thing I'll go for six months, tantrum, boom.

I'm in a fucking rut out of fucking nowhere. And I think it's more a thing where it's just different types of places. And when you say the whole thing about not writing your goals, I was able to do that then. Now that I'm in this spot and switch of career and going into sales, I'm doing fantastic.

I have my own business and basically wholesaling houses doing great right now. But it's not that constant eat, drive, lion, hardest feel which I'm trying to like get back to, which I do. But then it opts out. But I just, I don't know, I just wanted to know if it's something where maybe it's just me on my end or something I could possibly tap in.

Maybe it's a like flip, flip of a switch.

01:58:20HOST

I mean, you're doing exactly what your dad did, basically. You're literally sort of recreating the kind of diorama that your father puts you. And it's like the sort of the same story, it's headed down that same path. And here's my point.

If you look at it from a tribalistic point of view, a family unit, a nuclear family, is meant to create incremental wealth. Right. Like from a. From an ethical, economical standpoint, the idea of a rich son inheriting a rich dad's business, that's actually the natural order of things.

Because how it's supposed to work is on enough generations, every son is supposed to do incrementally better than their father did and then leave their sons the imprinting, the lessons, the infrastructure, and then their son is supposed to slightly exceed. It's supposed to be a gradual incline. Where you run into serious problems in the fabric of a society is when a father gives money to a son who wasn't part of that clause, wasn't part of that initial plan. So like a kid who doesn't have experience managing large sums of money comes into it fast.

That's how you wreck massive generations. Because again, families are designed to create incremental stability over generations. The only way you get an outlier, okay, and the only way you get these heroic figures that were all like, how the. Did these break beyond the barriers and, and hurdle and high step over these obstacles is because they all had a very rocky fight with their parents.

And so they were able to sort of shed the programming and decondition the identity, and they were able to go kind of chart a whole different path for themselves. That's the black pill. The black pill is that if you're going to be an outlier and reverse generations of incrementalism, then you have to go your own way and leave the kingdom for a ephemeral period of time. When I say leave the kingdom, I actually mean on a soul, spiritual level and a mental level.

You have to completely remove the permission levers that your parents have over you. If that's what you're trying to do. If you're trying to stick a fork in reality and strike gold and change generations, then that's the kind of man you have to, to be. I've never seen anybody be able to do it while under the thumb of their parents.

I've just never seen that happen. Because again, it's a stable system and it's stable on purpose. So it's only the who are able to sort of shatter that sort of baseline reality, who are able to kind of get things that the other people in the family were unable to get. Does that make sense?

02:01:06CALLER 3

Yeah, I understand. So you mean like ideologies alongside with like.

02:01:09HOST

Well, ideology is the most important thing. That's the first thing you have to jackhammer. That's the first thing you have to jackhammer is all that imprinting. Because the reality is, bro, God bless their souls.

But the boomers were the most bamboozled generation in world history. They don't really have pertinent life advice for us like the way they did things. That shit don't fly anymore. So you can fucking love them and hold them near and dear to your heart, but most of their advice is absolute dog.

It's horrible, horrible advice. Yeah.