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HOST
I'm glad you guys all joined us for this EMF baptism. That's exactly what this is, a EMF baptism. I want you guys to take a moment of silence and bask in the glory of the EMF waves that are showering your body. Moment of silence.
Feel that 5G meteor shower enveloping you? I'm not gonna lie. I climbed a EMF tower. I climbed a 5G tower, which I am standing atop to host the spaces.
And I guarantee you my third son will be on the way very shortly. So let's have a quick moment of silence. All right? That feels incredible.
We're back. Hey. I've always been very intrigued by when I pop open a spaces, there's like a hundred that raise their hand as a speaker, like right off the cuff. So let's do something in a little bit of a reverse order.
I'm gonna call up someone because I cannot fathom what you possibly have to say before I've even kicked this thing off. So we're gonna play some roulette, I'm gonna call someone up and I'm very curious. Let us all know what you possibly have to say before spaces. This is going to be real good.
Walker, give us a seance. What's up?
CALLER 2
What's up?
HOST
Rude. How are you doing? How you doing?
CALLER 1
I. I've listened to your previous spaces and I want to see. What do you do to be seen as the fun guy? I know you've talked about fun is in.
Fun is what wins nowadays. What have you done to be seen as a fun guy?
HOST
Yeah, we'll get into that. I have a. I have a good tie in for this. The way I was going to actually jump this off.
So I have had the pleasure of speaking with many professional athletes through my platform. I DM guys that you would all know routinely, we talk mindset. There's a lot of athletes in this world that when they show up on game day, they have applied my principles, my thinking, my philosophy. A lot of you don't understand this, but this is a fact.
There are who you watch on TV who have my core philosophy rumbling in the back of their head when they're performing at the highest levels. But I had one earlier this week that was the most intriguing interaction I've ever had on here because I got a DM at like 3 o' clock in the morning from a professional athlete. And to protect his privacy, I'm not going to tell you the sport, but you would all know who he is. And it was like a confessional.
This Guy's telling me basically that he despises the sport that he plays. His whole world is crumbling on him. His dad don't speak to him, he's got a cadre of fake friends. His girlfriend's pushing on him to quit.
She wants him to move in a little high rise apartment and get a little Chihuahua. And he's just miserable. He's absolutely miserable and doesn't even want to play the game anymore. He wants to throw in the towel.
So me and him are bandying back and forth. And when I saw this particular message, I grinned because this guy's in a solo sport and I have actually bet a couple million bucks on this guy over the years. And he doesn't know. This guy has no clue that I have actually placed very large, life changing wagers on his performance.
And this motherfucker's DMing me. Third degrees of three degrees of separation, right? The world is much smaller than you guys think. Anyway, when he shares this with me, I had a very genuine grin come over my face because this was like a steel girder.
This was like a steel reinforcement to everything that I've been talking about. What you have to truly understand and internalize right now is that when you are receiving everything that you truly want in life, this is the most grotesque paradox that you will ever grapple with. When you are receiving everything that you truly want in life, it will always, no exceptions, be when you are the most miserable. Do you understand?
Being a top performer as a male is excruciatingly miserable, but you're also getting everything that you want. When this guy is telling me that he's shaky inside and he wants to wave the white flag and he wants to kneel and he wants to throw in the towel on the game that he loves because he just can't fucking do it anymore. Because his father doesn't speak to him because he's so obsessed. He has a fucking pathology that is demolishing all of his personal relationships.
His girl is badgering him daily, telling him, I just want you to be happy. Why don't you fucking quit? I'm so sick of seeing you miserable. Do you guys understand that under the surface, which is where you have to go in order to receive life's greatest insights, this man is actually seated in a position where he's getting everything he wants.
His dad ain't talking to him, but his dad is filled to the brim with the most respect that he's ever had for his son. Right now, they ain't even talking. And I know For a fact, his dad respects the fuck out of him. Which, by the way, is the top thing that a man wants in life.
A man just wants to be respected. Women want to be cherished. Men want to be respected. And he's got that.
And I, and I told him in the dm, I said, listen, I said, the only reason why your girl is with you right now is because you are miserable. Wrap your head around that. The only reason his girl is rocking with him is ride or die right now is because of how miserable he is. The minute, the minute, the very second he decides to choose the happy path, the happy path, she's gone, Dunzo.
Not coming back. Gone. And it's all a shit test. Do you understand?
It's all a shit test. They want to see if this motherfucker's gonna fold. And they want to see if this guy's gonna cave in on himself so they can go see, we knew it all along. You ain't the guy you said you were.
That's what everyone's doing in your personal life at all times, by the way. Everyone's just waiting for you to fold up your tent and go home so they can. So they can go, gotcha, Gotcha. We knew you were a charlatan.
We knew you weren't about this life. And what you have to understand, and this is the reason I grinned, is because there are envious millions of insectoid that would love to be in this guy's position. He's in the arena. He's in the arena.
He's a fucking gangster. This motherfucker's talented as fuck at his craft and he hates it. Do you guys know that the, like, most of the very, very top performers that you look up to at absolutely despise their craft? You know, Andre Agassi hated tennis.
Literally hate it. Go, go pull up old Andre Agassi interviews. Guy's a legend. The guy's a legend.
A once in a generation talent. And I'll tell you something. He hated tennis. And guess what?
There ain't no walking who's ever going to see a super Grand Slam again. He holds. He holds a record in tennis that will never be replicated or duplicated again. Never happening.
No one's ever getting a super Grand Slam again. Agassiz got it. And he hated the sport. Gsp.
Your little fabled prized little wrestling boy that all you look up to. Hated fighting, hated mma, hated wrestling. He's got interviews and he would talk about the anxiety and the tension and the fear and how rattled he would be before matches. He didn't even want to be there.
Was at the top of his game. Joe DiMaggio hated baseball with so much rancor in his heart. Hated the game. Ain't no one ever getting a 62 hit game streak again.
That motherfucker's holding the crown jewel in the game of baseball. There ain't no one who's going to eclipse that hit streak ever again. And he fucking hated it. Despised it.
And he was getting everything he wanted. He was getting everything he wanted. You know the rocket metaphor? You know, the, the, like the, the physics, the, the, the, the telemetry of the direction of a rocket.
Yes, space is fake and gay, but the analogy remains the same. The type of propulsion that you need as a man just to get your wheels off the ground and, and, and puncture the atmosphere. People don't understand how hard you got to hang on until you break through the fucking firmament. People do not really comprehend how much throttle and how much thrust it actually takes to carry your vessel through the gauntlet, cruising to an altitude where then you can kind of lay off the throttle a little bit and just bask in the grace for a second.
It takes so much upward thrust through so much grief and deprivation and misery. And, and you know, this guy that I was DMing with, this athlete, I told him, I was like, dude, you got to understand that the, the misery is the glue that's holding everything together right now. You know what I mean? God did not build men to be happy.
Little prancing around in tulip fields. That, that was never the case. Because this hardware that you have been blessed with, I venture to let's, let's lasso in software too. The male software.
And the male hardware is so fucking durable. It's so fucking hardy. You know what I mean? It's, it's, it's stalwart.
It's. It's almost undefeatable. And you can put yourself through so much contortion to get to where you need to be. As a man.
You can handle anything. The more you put on your plate, the more you rise to the occasion every time. It's just a fact. And so the, the misery that this man is experiencing is actually the cohesion.
His girl is in love with him more than she's ever been in her entire life right now. And that's the irony of life, and that's another one of these magnificent paradoxes, is that you will receive the most undying loyalty and love from a woman when you are least receptive to it. When you're numb to it. When you can't even fucking see straight and your head is fucking on a gimbal, spinning, rotating on that fulcrum.
That is when you will receive the most undying love. It's also when you'll receive the most money, success, and wealth. Look, there is nothing glamorous about being a high performer whatsoever. It is.
You are in miserable conditions. But you also have all these little virtues quaking under the surface that you want. You got the respect, you got the fucking love. You got the fucking cribs, you got the cars, you got the toys.
You're literally this, the epicenter of the fucking universe, and it ain't fun. Like, sometimes you don't even enjoy it. But that's the beauty of being a man, is you can have everything you want and not enjoy it just to show that you did it. It's one of the wildest paradoxes.
And then this cashes this in and goes to the bartering table and listens to his girl and goes, you know what? This sport, you're right. Let's just go move into our little apartment and get a little dog and shack up she. That.
That relationship is. Is toast. It's so toast. He's so.
If he chooses that route and so he's got to double down. He's got to lean into his nature. He's got to lean into his nature. I do want to pivot a little bit.
Let's. Let's do like a deeper alembic on some of these tweets that I've been kind of rattling off my hip the last week. I think I did one yesterday about anabolic thinking. I actually want to write a book about this because I just genuinely don't think people really understand how powerful the mind is.
And I said something to the effect of that. The. The way that you think, the way that you perceive the world, has a hundred x the anabolic effects of any food or supplement or compound that you'll ever take. And that is a fact.
The way you see things, your outlook, your attitude, your disposition. You know what I mean? And this is always gonna be a egg before the chicken type of deal. It always is.
It's like people have wrestled with the idea, like, which one comes first. If I optimize my hormones, if I. Is that going to fix my life? Or if I optimize my attitude and my mindset, is that going to fix my hormones?
It's always going to be that question. But I am here to tell you that if you have the true holistic approach towards life. You will understand that you cannot isolate any of these components. You can't do it.
This is why it is so tough to offer up, to serve up good diet advice and see someone actually stick to a diet, a radical dietary change. It is very rare that in the middle of someone's life that they can actually stick to and adhere to a radical diet change. It is the hardest thing to jackhammer in a man. And the reason is, is because you have to understand that a person's predilection towards their dietary habits are very tightly interlocked with all the other ideologies that they hold on to.
The way they politic, the way they, their ontology, their philosophy, their economic strategy, their economic viewpoints, all of that ties in with the way people eat. And if you really want to make someone have a radical dietary change, you have to mutilate. You literally have to mutilate like nine other aspects of their personality. Because everything is tightly interwoven in the system.
This is how, this is how humans work. And so when you try to make little changes in one department without changing everything else, you have zero idea what kind of damage you're doing to these other structures. You understand? You change a man's politics, you change the way he eats food, you change the way he interacts with life.
Everything is downstream from these larger macro funnels. It's factual. And everyone wants to go downstream and pick the low hanging fruit and that's why they can't stick to these things, you know what I'm saying? Like, you get a, some loser who can't get what he wants in life and you tell him, hey buddy, if you start pounding raw milk and eating steak, your life's gonna change.
Come on, man, come on, I wasn't born yesterday. That's not how the game is played whatsoever. Because what you're really trying to do by eating properly is you're trying to change the way you feel. And that's what, that's what the ingestation of all these compounds and somehow are under the guise that if you feel a certain way, that's going to catapult you to where you want to be.
And I think we've seen innumerable amount of examples of who perform regardless of how they feel, right? Feeling is not a, is not a prerequisite to success whatsoever. You don't have to like what you're doing to succeed. You don't have to be happy doing what you're doing to succeed at all.
That's Never been the case, not for men anyway. And so the point is, the overarching point is that you have to attack the mind first, you know what I mean? And then, and then the food and the supplements. Like, look, my diet is immaculate, it always has been.
But I see it as just the polish, you know what I'm saying? Like my blades are already razor sharp and the food is just the polish at the end. That's all it is. That's all it is.
I just have a deeper reservoir, I have a deeper wellspring to tap into of energy because I do eat well. The, the jacked thing is the same thing, by the way, you know what I mean? Like, I think, I think it's time that we really put to bed the whole jacked meme. It's just not.
The efficacy just ain't there. It's not doing for men what they thought it was going to do. Every idiot, every midwit thought that if they went into the gym six days a week and put on 10 pounds of muscle that somehow magically everything was going to fall on their lap on a silver platter. Women were going to throw themselves to you.
Opportunities are going to, you know what I mean, be storks are going to deliver opportunities to your doorstep. And I think if we're really being honest with ourselves, we all know that's a crock of. We all do. We all do.
In the modern age, if you get super jacked as anything but a consequence of being athletic and strong, as you're doing it all wrong, like I'm pretty jacked objectively. My back is the size of a two bedroom apartment. But I'm telling you right now, I ain't ever measured a single proportion on my body or given a single flying about any particular muscle group. I'm just a strong athlete.
So of course I'm jacked. But it's as a byproduct, you know what I'm saying? It all ties in with my whole central thesis about how you gotta train the way you think you got to do business the way you train. Everything is connected.
Everything. If you're a fast twitch fiber and you think quickly and you're an improviser, you know what I mean? You have sort of that jackal mentality, that sort of hunter predator mentality in life, the way that you view things, the way that you seize and capitalize opportunities that come across your desk, then you better do, you better orchestrate your fitness in the same manner, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm A very quick, snappy, sharp thinker.
I don't have to sit and pontificate. Therefore me going into the gym and sitting on a leg press and doing slow muscle contractions is going to have a negative detrimental to the way that I think. But me going in and doing whip snap power cleans at £300 is going to reinforce and bolster the way that I think. Do you understand how all this shit's connected?
It is. It's very much connected. I'm a sprinter by nature and therefore I treat my life with that same accord. Thinking is extremely anabolic.
I challenge you to go look back at all the beautiful minds that you guys give blandishments and laudations to on the timeline. Go look at all the generals, the true leaders of men, right? Because look, I'm going to tell you right now in the modern day and age, In the most disgraceful, appalling genres of porn imaginable, that this is what this leads. And look, I'll give you the real benefits of being jacked.
If you wanted like a clear cut idea of all this. If you are super jacked as like a prescription. Yes, 100. It will amplify your dating success with like fives and, and lower. 100 ugly.
Do like jacked men. I'll tell you that right now. Once you get to the upper echelons of beautiful women, they don't give a about your body. They don't give a flying about your body.
They give a about your body at work. They don't give a about your body. I know this is very painful, very painful for you who are in there six days a week looking at every muscle contraction and all your striations. Because when you're walking on the sidewalk, I'm telling you right now, the only people who are looking up to you are other men.
Men are very impressed by mutant physiques and women are not at all. And if, and if they are, if women are impressed by mutant physiques, I got news for you. That woman has been eviscerated. It has been eviscerated.
Makes zero sense. I'll give you another little piece of advice. Physiognomy is a decent indicator, but it's mostly predicated on genetics. If you really, truly want to understand the fulmination of a man's spirit, you got to look at the way the walks.
I have a feeling that the expression of the male aura comes out in the gate. It's the way you walk. It is. It's the way you walk.
You can see everything In a way that the man fucking walks. It's a way better fucking indicator than physiognomy. Telling you right now, I'm telling you right now, even your age shows up in the way you walk. That's how.
That's actually how you can tell someone's age is by the way they walk. Like you should never be shuffling your feet. And the swagger just gets incorporated in that. You know what I'm talking about?
Like that. This is why I'm telling you. Thinking is more anabolic because I do actually believe that if you groove enough thinking patterns in your head, that it actually does put engravings in your face. It does it, it morphs your face.
The way you think over time actually does gratify the face in a certain manner. And it also imbues and endows itself in your posture, in your aura. You know what I mean? You know, physiognomy is interesting.
If you look at really, really ugly, hideous people, you will notice a deep association with petty crime. Petty crime is for very ugly, hideous people. Go look at like old bank robbers and that would like do like little gay little forms of thievery, like stealing like coops of chickens and like people who stealing candy snickers and from like gas stations and hideous, hideous, ugly, wretched, decrepit looking. So, yeah, I mean, there are some lines that can be drawn and some parallels and.
But the overarching point remains that physiognomy is mostly. And the indentations and impressions on your face does show your body of work. You know, your hands, as a man, I do believe your hands contain the entire map of your life, the entire stratigraphy. The entire stratigraphy of your life is grooved and embroidered in your hands.
Like your whole life story is really emblazoned in your palms. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can literally see some have horned cracked fingers, bent pinkies and. And then you got other with like whale blubber hands.
And those have never done a goddamn thing in their life. So these etchings are real. These etchings are real. And why you as a man would ever go to great lengths to hide these etchings really boggles.
It confounds the rational mind. Because this is what I'm telling you, right? This is what, this is what I'm telling you. I'm telling you that your entire life experience does settle on your skin.
It settles in your appearance. Now, as a man, all you have to show for your body of work is the story that's been inscripted on you. So why the if you had a hard life and you were triumphant over it and you got wrinkles and. And you got gray hair, why the would you go to great lengths to hide your story?
The are you thinking you're a man? Why the would you ever hide your story? Like, I, like, I don't even think prosthetics are dope other than like the functional aspect. Like, if I lost the finger, I lost the finger.
I'm. You. You bet your ass. I'm repping it and I'm gonna rep it hard.
You know what I was saying? Like some of these machine workers and who get fingers chopped off, I ain't getting a. I ain't getting a cadaver finger sewed back on because it just becomes part of the inner working of the story. And so you got these spray tan roided that dye their hair black when they get to their 50s and 60s, hiding their life story.
Are you doing, man? Shit's gay as. Yo next gen. I.
I need a cigarette break, bro. Go ahead. Do not, do not, do not ramble, please. I need coherency.
CALLER 1
Are you taking questions right now?
HOST
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
CALLER 1
All right, so I think I'm like a late bloomer, but my life path, like, finding my edge, I think it's being a lone wolf, but I'm working on the flaws that come with being that type of man, and I hope to like, master it one day. But I'm getting into my late 20s, you know, I'm not rich and powerful like the giants like you and Tay and others I look up to and stuff. So I'm having to mix in the hyper normie life path for now, even though I think sometimes going homeless is what I need. But what I wanted to talk to you about is like, the concept of disappearing and going ghosts, essentially, to get as far as you can, because I think I know my mission.
And I just wanted to hear your thoughts on male taking that route as kind of like a hoorah. And if you've seen success stories in
HOST
that go going ghost. In what manner? What are you talking about? Just turning your back on everybody in your life and alienating yourself or what?
CALLER 1
No, no, not in like an unhealthy way at all. Definitely not. Like, I enjoy social interactions and stuff and like here and there and everything, but basically just like dedicating yourself to the craft almost. I think a lot of people could use that maybe from like a long term standpoint.
HOST
Yeah, I think that's solid. I think, I think what America has done is I think America has really failed its outliers big time in recent times. And I think that we have stopped teaching people with fire in their bellies how to cook on that fire. And that's the biggest problem we see in society right now.
There's a lot of young men who have obsessive personalities, who have nervous quirks and, and personality characteristics and that just don't jive with a lot of the norms going on. And a lot of these men are turning a blind eye to gifts and these strengths. And they are, they've. They're not learning how to cook on that fire inside them.
And if you don't learn how to cook on that fire, you're just going to burn yourself and everybody around you to the ground. And so, you know, you talk about the lone wolf archetype. I'm very curious when you talk about the flaws, because, look, obviously my whole central work has been around integration. I think the, the pinnacle of being a man is finally being able to integrate all of the qualities in yourself that you don't like and making it a holistic unit.
And until you get there, it's a very, very rough road. But obviously, I think if you're familiar with my work, you know that I do not believe in flaw removal whatsoever. I think it's the biggest mistake that men make. I've seen more lives get toppled like fucking Pompeii from that shit.
And I think it needs to come to a screeching halt. I think men need to learn how to incorporate their flaws. So what are some of the flaws of being a lone wolf? Talk to me.
CALLER 1
Yeah, it's kind of deep with that. I don't really have an answer right off the rip on my head that comes to mind, but I would say probably like, maybe something with the obsessiveness and like locking yourself in a room and like, type cave type. But a lot of people can handle it too, to a degree, if you're actually productive. But I would say flaws as in, like, yeah, you're not like, talking to.
You're just not relying on other people to where you're not building those good relationships and, and having a network to where you can go have fun, like be that fun guy as well, like we were talking about. Or the last question was. But yeah, I think there's a lot of flaws.
HOST
I feel like, I feel like a lot of people can go unabomber mode and put on the hoodie and put on the sweatpants and barricade themselves inside and hunker down and grind. And I'm not about that life at all. I don't think that life is constructive whatsoever. I think you have to be in the scene.
CALLER 1
Yeah.
HOST
I think there's social gratification and that's involved with this and building a. Building a full life.
CALLER 3
Yeah.
CALLER 1
Leaning into your edge and, and accepting the flaws. I've definitely learned from you. Like you just kind of. Everyone's built different.
You kind of just gotta like use that as strength almost.
HOST
Yeah, you gotta ride the long tails is what you got to do on the distribution. You gotta ride the long tails and you gotta swing between extremes until you kind of strike that golden middle. And that's kind of what it is. It's like I said on the last spaces, you know, winners do go through many prophecies and sagas where they're losing doesn't mean they're a loser, but they're on the other end of the long tail.
And I'm all about riding the long tails because that's. That always leads to glory. One way or another. One way or another you're gonna have a good story to tell.
Well, you know, one way or another you're gonna plunder wisdom. I think wisdom is far superior to knowledge. Far superior. I'd rather be the dumb pirate, the dumb pirate wearing tights, sitting on a bridge drinking hemlock, thinking about all the things that I've done, all the pirates booty and that I've reaped in life than the knowledgeable who's.
Who's castrated. You know what I'm saying? And look, the thing with really smart people, like the most post prominent debauchers that I know, that the real, the real smart kids who leaned into debauchery at some point in their life always choose the mind of the senses over the. Over the mind over the life of the mind.
The, the life of the senses is where all the greatness is in life. It's not in, it's not deep seated in the mind. It's in the senses. And I think that really intelligent people figure that out one way or another.
Anyway, I'm going to move on. Appreciate it.
CALLER 1
Oh yeah. Love the wisdom, man. I'm going to keep cooking that far. Appreciate it.
HOST
We are having a connection issue because of this gay wi fi thing. Yo, golden beaver.
CALLER 3
Hey, Rude, what's up?
HOST
What's up, bro?
CALLER 3
Well, my question is.
HOST
No, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on. Back up. Golden Beaver, you're up.
What's up bro?
CALLER 3
Got it.
HOST
Can't hear a word. All Right. Zero. So I.
Go ahead, brother.
CALLER 1
Okay.
CALLER 3
My question is, you always talk about that. I don't know. Half of the people that you talk to in the spaces are just entertaining themselves. Do you think that there's people that you can change?
That you can change some guys that are listening today, that they can wake up or that there's guys that maybe sometimes they grasp this reality that you talk about and, and they go back like you talk in the terms of winners and losers. Can you change a loser to a winner? Somebody that's listening? Is that impossible?
HOST
100 you can. That's why I said the opposite of winner is not loser. This is what I want you guys to understand. The opposite of winner is not loser.
The opposite of winner is mediocre. Because I am, I am third. I am wholeheartedly convinced that if you, even if a man doubles down on his loser traits, he'll probably win in the end. You know what I'm saying?
Like the, the, the, the, the heroin using artist who produces great works of art that does have more upside than the mediocre. So it's like even literally doubling down on your loser traits is oftentimes actually going to break you through to the top eventually. That's the crazy paradox about life. But I do think transformation is.
I do think transformation is, is 100. I think people, look, here's like the. One of the most impressive feats, and it's impressive, not in a good way to me, is people who go to Alcoholics Anonymous and kick the alcoholism. These people genuinely, when you hear them speak, they genuinely have a full cup of life.
Like when I hear them speak, I've never heard them. I've never heard an individual actually have a full love for life like people who've quit their addictions. The problem is, is every time the beast wakes up, which is every day, possibly every fucking hour of the day, they have to beat the beast down with a club. You know what I mean?
They're living in a perpetual state of beating down, of beating down the beast within themselves and taming it and suffocating it and strangling it. And that is impressive in the sense that it takes 24, 7 monitoring your ego takes 24, 7 monitoring of your thoughts. And every time that beast knocks on the door, you gotta bring out the fucking billy club and fucking beat him over the head again. But it's never, it's never gonna die.
And that's why I said the people who have beat their addictions for like 40 years. I remember hearing a guy speak I think he was clean for like 40 years off of alcohol. And he came into a meeting and he fucking relapsed after like 40 years. And I have never seen a defeated human.
It was the saddest story to this day that I' and heard this guy was brought to tears. He was besides himself. He was so distraught, so up, so twisted inside. He couldn't believe that the beast got him again.
And he said in his speech, and it was one of the most powerful things I'd ever heard. He said, I feel like I'd been living a lie for 40 years. He's like, I didn't pick up a drink for 40 years. But he's like, I feel like my entire life was built on a foundation of lies and fakery.
And he said, I just couldn't take it anymore. And when I went back to the drink, he's like, I just felt this alleviation. I just felt this suffusion of tension that had been weighing on me for 40 years. And it was one of the best feelings I had ever had in my life.
And then he broke into a billion little pieces.
CALLER 3
Whoa.
HOST
And that's incredible. That's an incredible story. Because to go 40 years inside self denial of who you really are is, is. Is impressive to me.
Just like it's impressive to me when I see a fat, super morbidly obese at a restaurant. Like, when I'm at a restaurant and I'm at a steakhouse and I see a family walk in and they are morbidly obese and they're disgusting. Like, I don't think people understand how impressive it is that someone allowed themselves to get to that point. It's equally as impressive as a pro athlete to me.
I'm like you. You literally had to deny so many things in this life, so much reality, to create such a behemoth of a human being that you've become that it's impressive in a bad way. I'm just like sitting there, jaw dropped, like, how the did you even get to this point? Because I.
There's so many instruments within my own psychology that would never allow me to let myself go like that. Like, it would be impossible for me to become a fat guy. It's literally not humanly possible. Even if I lost all my limbs, there's no way.
I have way too much circuitry and way too many stop gaps put in place in my psychology that would never in a billion years let me become that way. So the fact that there are people out there who will allow themselves to Become just a grotesque caricature of themselves is impressive. That takes work. Like, people look at this and they're like, these guys are lazy, they're disgusting, they're fat.
As it's like, dude, you don't understand actually how much work it took for them to let themselves go. That is in, I dare to say, almost an impossible feat. And so when I see people in this state of condition where they're the absolute most abject losers on the planet, they have no accomplishments, they don't do a thing, I'm like, that takes so much creativity. It takes so much creativity to be a broke loser.
Like, you have to really, really work at it to get straight Fs in class. You know what I'm saying? Like, people look at that guy and they're like, he's lazy. And I'm like, nah, that working harder than you.
You gotta work hard to be a loser. You know what I'm saying? So like, for me, it's just impressive. I'm just like, man, you are.
You are ghastly. And you did this to yourself. And you know, it, it works in the other way as well. It's a it.
You know what I mean? It's the whole horseshoe theory.
CALLER 3
I've heard the obese one. I've heard it before, like when they say, well, it takes a lot of work to have a, I don't know, a chisel putty. Okay, it takes a lot of work
CALLER 2
to be morbidly obese, dude.
HOST
Of course it does. The, the, the, the sheer, the sheer willpower and denial of reality that it takes to become in that state is actually so magnanimous. Like, that could move mountains. They just redirected it in the wrong direction and look like my whole thing about leaning into your nature.
Most people who are fat as they're. They're not. That's not their nature. There are genuinely some prototypes of men who actually do fare better in this world being overweight.
But that's not the average person. The average person that's obese and grotesque. They're. They're actually so far away from their nature that you'll never actually fit that body back in its frame even if you tried.
You know what I'm saying? Like, look, let's look at, let's do a quick dissection on Goggins. Goggins is a mental fat guy and he always will be. It's just instead of torturing himself with donuts and curly fries, he now tortures himself with marathons and pull ups.
The behavior is the same. He's a self torture addict. He's a self torture addict. That is his self image.
That's the entire foundation that his life is predicated on, is self torture. But in his head, in his head, he's still the fat that he has to abuse every day. You understand?
CALLER 3
Do you think he trans. He transformed it into W, into a win?
HOST
100%. 100%. I'm giving him props. He's leaned in heavy to his nature. He's a self abuser.
He can't stop hurting himself. And so he finally chose a path where he can torture his soul in a way that actually is now marketable. Like, of course I give him props. The guy's a, the guy is the second coming of Jesus Christ to a lot of people.
You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I mean that's, that's an impressive morphology there for sure. But the, but my point is, is the behavior is the exact same and he is the same guy. Even when, you know the donuts and curly fries.
That metaphor is flawless because that's exactly what it is.
CALLER 3
I have a, an unrelated question of a story you told the Mercedes. What happened when you received this letter saying that you, that you left it on, on the road?
HOST
It wasn't a letter. I was doing. I did a credit audit. I think I was trying to get a crib.
And on my credit report it showed that there was a salvaged Mercedes still on the record. And I found out like three years later. Yeah, okay.
CALLER 3
Thank you, man.
HOST
Let's get some new faces up here. New faces, new places. What's up, Christian?
CALLER 2
Yo, what's going on, bro? I want to open up a few cans of worms. The first one is relevant to your own temperament and your own edge. So oftentimes when you put out such a strong message, like, you know, anti transformation, if you will, like going against who you really are, that leaves the listeners in a tough spot where it's like, okay, fuck, I don't necessarily like my natural predicament.
So how do you, how do you view not necessarily rounding yourself out such that you lose your edge, but navigating your predisposition, your temperament relative to your desires. Because oftentimes our temperament or our edge doesn't come in the most pretty package. Right, so.
HOST
Exactly. Which, which is what we just talked about in the beginning of the show. So go on.
CALLER 2
So that brings me to the second thing. You mentioned in a few spaces ago, that when you're on your mission, a day or a week or a month is a Eternity. And sometimes I find that when I'm really working hard, time just sort of elapses and flies by. So I'm interested to hear your take on that and have you expand on that a bit.
HOST
Yeah, so on the first one, I need you to kind of condense that question for me again.
CALLER 2
Yeah. So when you say a day, a week, or a month is an eternity. What?
HOST
No, no, the first part. The first part.
CALLER 2
Relevant to the. The temperament and the predisposition.
HOST
Yes.
CALLER 2
Okay, so how does one navigate not necessarily liking or enjoying their predisposition and who they are, but simultaneously move their life in a direction that they'd like it to go and not nes and not necessarily be pinned down by their predisposition?
HOST
Dude, that's exactly what I just talked about, about hating what you love. Hating love is so close on the dial, so don't understand. It's like hating love are almost identical. You know what I'm saying?
Male hatred is identical to female love. So when. When haters are in my comments or people make fake accounts just to talk on my page, I'm like, dude, you're in love with me. You are literally Stan from that music video in Eminem scribbling letters to me.
That's what you're doing right now. I'm not dumb. I see that coming a mile away. So hate and love are very close.
And like I said, male hatred is identical to female love. It's literally an identical mechanism, but it's just on opposite sides of the barbell. As a man, you have. There's zero prerequisite to enjoy whatever the you're doing.
That's not like a real thing. You don't have to be happy while you're doing things. Happiness is for women and children, first of all. Women deserve to be happy.
Children deserve to be very happy. I don't think men deserve to be happy at all. You know what I'm saying? And look, this is paradoxical, because the most miserable a man is, the happiest he really is.
Because it means. It means things are getting done. It means things are being accomplished. It means the empire is being erected.
Do you understand? Standing. Standing in your own empire, in the ivory tower, and surveying the kingdom that you built is not really a good feeling because there's so much responsibility and there's so much juggling that goes on with that, that it actually is quite miserable. Emperors, kings, all those are very.
There's a lot of pain that they experience when they're standing on the balcony of their kingdom looking out. It ain't fun. There's nothing fun about it. But we sold you.
We soldier on anyway because we're men. And as men, my whole point is nature designed you to get the out of homeostasis and push boundaries. That's how you get a civilization. Because by nature, you know what I'm saying?
Like I said earlier, you're really designed to just be sitting under the sun a little bit, walking a couple kilometers a day, grabbing a papaya, slashing it open, maybe laying a trap, catching a squirrel, catching a fucking rabbit, feasting. Rinse and repeat. That's really what man is designed to do. Man ain't designed to build rockets, skyscrapers, daring works of art that ain't in the fucking design.
You have to go way outside your biology. You have to veer. You know what I'm saying? I think William Blake said man is durable.
And what he meant was, is that man can steer himself in directions that are at direct odds with his biology. That's what nature, transcendence and destiny is, by the way. It's about veering and straight and straying from homeostasis and being able to sustain that state for as long as possible. That's why I've always said if you want to be very successful, you got to learn to be in a very imbalanced state because things don't get done when they're balanced.
You know what I'm saying? I've used the analogy before. You think a detective who gets the biggest case of his life, he's trying to solve a murder mystery that ain't going to his calendar and saying, you know what I think on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, I think I'm gonna put four hours in trying to catch this killer. Maybe on Saturday I'll have a barbecue and a ball game with the boys.
That's not happening. This is obsessed. He's obsessed with his mission. And he's going to be working around the clock 24 7.
It's never going to leave his mind until he solves the case. Well, you know what the fucking second order consequences of that are? He's going to have relationship tension at home with his wife, his kids are maybe even turn their back on him. His friends are going to drift away, but he's going to fucking solve that case.
And that's why I said, you cannot measure, dude, you cannot measure anything. On the surface, on the surface, things can be very ugly. You know what I mean? It can feel like things are falling apart.
But like we talked about in the pro athlete in the beginning of the show. Under the surface, that Detective is actually garnering more love, respect, companionship, and loyalty from all of those relationships that are. That are falling apart. If that makes sense.
Like his wife is with him and going to stand by him because of his insanity. It's because of his insanity, not in spite of it. Bang, bang.
CALLER 2
Yeah, I can agree, and I've experienced that, dude.
HOST
We all have.
CALLER 3
Cool.
CALLER 1
Keep moving.
HOST
Yep.