The disease of order
HOST
All right, fellas, so someone had to address this, and I'm gonna do it for you in true brute to force fashion. Do you guys understand that Bug man. Bug man might genuinely be the greatest metaphor to ever grace your mental palette? It's the greatest metaphor in the entire American lexicon, for sure.
For sure, because it perfectly describes. Look, let me tell you something. I am absolutely intrigued by losers. The loser mentality is so goddamn fascinating when you really deconstruct all the elements that come into play to create it.
Like why some people just legitimately never win, ever. There's nothing more intriguing than picking that apart and polishing those bones and trying to figure out what the.
CALLER 1
Like what.
HOST
Why is your worldview so up? Why are your mental paradigms so up? So let me tell you something. You know how you'll see an army of ants, literal ants, Just like randomly, you'll see an ant, like, carrying a leaf, just carrying a leaf.
And look, I'm sure there's some fucking divine reason in the. In the grand symphony and orchestration of life. I'm sure there's a. Some sort of divine purpose for it.
But you'll stand there and you'll watch an ant carry a fucking leaf and then just drop it in the middle of the sidewalk and just walk away, and you're just like, what is this dumb doing. Humans are no different. Humans are no different. When you are terrified to really move the needle in life, like, really do the things that are actually breaking barriers, breaking boundaries, it's.
You will literally invent problems that are not real, and you'll generate a massive amount of rush, borderline adrenaline from accomplishing Nothing. There are 90% of human beings, all they do on a daily basis is rotate and move things around and rearrange things for no reason whatsoever. Musical chairs just literally moving things around, rearranging for zero purpose, reason, rhyme, or reason, and you think that you've accomplished something, let me tell you something. When you are genuinely on some kind of mission or obsessed, I promise you, the things that will repulse you the most are the menial, trivial tasks.
Because you just. When you're actually trying to achieve something that's grand, it's really disgusting to have any kind of interruption to do menial or trivial tasks. Yet we live in a world where there's a lot of people who legitimately think that if they bring up the trash cans from the driveway and they put the cups back in the cupboard and this chair is a little bit out of place, and they shove the chair back under the table and they fold their shirts and put them away in the drawers that they've literally won the day. You're killing it.
You're killing it, buddy. You got all your room is, is. It's immaculate. It's gorgeous.
And you think just like a ant that dragging that leaf across the crack in the sidewalk and dumping it off that you just accomplished something majestic. I can't even put into words how irrelevant 99% of this shit is. And then you look at the people who are losing in every department of life and you're like, bro, the things that you obsess on and harp on and dwell on and focus on are so unbelievably, profoundly, malignantly, spectacularly fucking stupid that it's really just boggles your mind. You're like, how do.
How did you convince yourself that this is moving the needle, that this is legitimately making your life better? Because you ran errands and took your to the dry cleaners and you got to pick it up at 2pm the is going on here with this mindset, you know what I mean? It's like I've always told you guys that if you looked behind the scenes of high functioning people, it really would appear like they are the most dysfunctional on planet earth. Their, their environment, their life is in such disarray.
Because when you're legitimately in the saddle and you have legitimate pressure to perform at a high level, it's like I've always said, picking up that T shirt or throwing your socks in the dirty laundry hamper literally feels like you're. You're dead. Lifting 600 pounds. It just, it just takes the life out of you because it's just so existentially mundane.
It's so mundane. It's so purposeless. It's so meaningless, it's so minute. It's so trivial.
It's nasty. It's nasty. But there's people who make a complete fucking living out of this. It kind of reminds me of the guy who truly.
It's like when you try so hard not to fuck things up in life, your whole modest operandi is just. You're trying not to be a fuck up. You're trying to be perfect. You're trying to be so meticulous and detailed and orderly and organized.
Those guys literally fuck everything up. You ever notice this? You ever notice the guy who literally goes out of his way and tries with all his might to never make mistakes, just fucks up left and right and gets berated and gets badgered and fucking. He's got bosses always chewing him out and he just can't understand why the reality that he's created in his head doesn't actually manifest in the real world.
He like gets the opposite result of everything he's trying to do. I see this over and over and over again. A guy at some fucking bullshit job that has, that's a dead end, it's a cul de sac, it's never really going to go anywhere. But when he's off the job, he fucking brushes up on all the fucking literature and he fucking reads all this, these pamphlets and fucking leaflets and tries to just get so fucking smart so he can come back the next day and make his boss proud and show him that he's, he's learning outside the job, he's trying to do his best.
That guy literally gets fired after like three days. He just gets, he just gets canned because he doesn't have the aptitude. The aptitude's not there and he doesn't pick up things quickly. And he's just overcompensating by thinking that if he just tries to.
It's like, dude, it really is insane. It really is insane how people will try to sprinkle gold flakes on. It's all you're doing. You're basically just putting gold flakes on, on literal feces, thinking that you're doing a great job.
It's like when you're really, really, really focused on a goal, you can't imagine how much really does fall to the wayside. Like a lot of little, little, little, little problems that eat at you stack up because you just don't have the mental bandwidth or care to address them. And I think that's why a lot of people run into these stumbling blocks and actually get super thrown off course because the little things that stack up do 100 cause some stress. And it's funny because everyone thinks that the stress, the high impact stress, comes from being in the actual saddle itself and taking the big shots.
Believe it or not, that's actually not where the bulk of the stress comes from. The bulk of the stress comes from when you are taking the big shots and you are in the saddle and you're attacking a lofty goal. The stress comes from all the things on the periphery that you actually have to let die because they're going to stack up on you because you simply as a human being, you don't have the mental bandwidth to deal with all the nonsense and all the rigmarole. And that shit definitely does eat at you.
But stress tolerance is Being able to block that shit out. Because as I've always said, once you win, you can go back and clean up, clean up all the mess. But you gotta win first. You gotta win first.
And none of these guys are winning anything. And they're on this fucking hamster wheel of just constantly rearranging furniture and being tidy and neat and organizing. You know what I mean? It's like a guy doesn't even have a business, but he's at a shopping supply store looking for three ring binders, color coded mechanisms so he can file his documents in a manila envelope.
But he's got no documents to fill the envelope. There's no invoices being paid, you know what I'm saying? Reminds me of the who don't even have a product. But he's looking for a graphic designer to get the most badass logo in some kind of like gothic font because he thinks it's badass to have the logo.
And he thinks that if he buys the logo, it's gonna give him some crazy otherworldly inspiration to start taking action. It's like, brother, you don't even have a business. The you worried about a logo for just constantly focusing on all the wrong things in life. That's really what it all boils down to.
That's, that's the gulf between winners and losers. Like the real chasm comes from just focusing on all the wrong fucking things in life. And it will blow your mind. It will blow the top of your cranium off if you have achieved great things in life.
And then you go and look at someone who can't get out of a rut and you go look at how they spend their time, the things they stress about, the things they worry about, where their mindset is. It's, it's fucking insane. It's insane. I mean, look, a fly, your fucking common house fly, is a superior animal to an ant.
Ant is like the lowest end species because a fly, a lot of don't even realize the utility of a fly. At least a fly is vampiric in nature, right? A fly people, most people don't know what the actual utility of a fly is. But these go and cannibalize decomposing organisms.
And it's been said, it's been said, and I think some of this is hyperbolic, but the point still remains. It's been said that if flies didn't exist, you would just see the dead corpses of animals littered all over the world. So basically, flies are like burial removal services baked into nature. These are like Pallbearers, they carry the caskets of the dead and ferry them into the afterlife and remove decaying organisms from the soil.
Very interesting. At least there's utility there, you know what I mean? When a fly is landing and picking on ants, like I said, I'm sure they have some divine miraculous order, but I've seen them just carry things and just drop them off somewhere and bounce. And that's no different than what these optimizing are doing.
It's outrageous the things that people focus on. And as I just said, if you truly want. And look, there's a flip side to this coin, of course, because I've always told you truth is paradoxical. There does get to a point where you'll go through these extended stints of, of letting like these little, little minute things kind of stack up on you.
And the stress definitely does get, get under your skin after a while. Like if you don't wash your car for like six months and then you go get a car wash, like that can actually relieve a lot of that's, that's been cumbersome. Things that have been cumbersome and have been weighing you down that can actually provide some massive alleviation after a certain fucking point. But there's motherfuckers who are like washing their car every week because it has to be fucking shiny.
But they're broke. You're broke and you're polishing your car and you need it waxed and you just, you're literally focused on all the wrong things in life because you're afraid, you're terrified to take on the real biggest challenges. Because to take on life's biggest challenges, you got to be vulnerable and you got to wear your heart on your sleeve and you got to establish, you got to stab your flag into the soil and claim territory. You got to put your chest out there and you got to make your, you got to make your desires very well known, very well intentioned, you know what I'm saying?
And, and look, I'm not going to bash people who work a regular job. But I'll tell you something, there does come a point. There's dudes in their 40s, mid-40s, late-40s, even in their 50s that are literally under the thumb of a boss. They have to comport themselves in a certain way.
They have to be very well mannered, they have to literally look like, be told what to do by a superior authority. And that's just an extended form of childhood. Because if you're an adult and someone has to tell you what to do to pay you all day. You're.
You're literally stuck in childhood. It's some kind of like Peter Pan syndrome. So. So my point is the people who never grow up, and I use that very loosely because there are, there are flaws with truly growing up as well.
But people who never grow up just end up in a constant cycle where they have to be super obedient to authority. You understand where this leads. And that's what happens when you just focus on all the wrong things in life. You're going to be under the behest and you're going to be under the command and you're going to be under the thumb of someone who does focus on all the right things.
And the right things are extremely subjective, by the way. It's just about going all in and putting in the blood, sweat and tears to the one thing that you want to achieve. And that's a very unoptimal state, as we know. I'm gonna bring up a question because I, I really want to springboard off this.
You guys know exactly what I'm talking about. You've seen these types and the things that they stress about you. You, you actually literally are just slack jawed sometimes. And you're just like, how is this real?
How the do you spend all your day worried about the fact that you're the handicap plaque? You know what I mean? Like these, these are the same type of people who will walk into a building and they'll see a handicap placard that's a quarter inch off and they'll be like, that's against building code 2507. We got to call the inspector.
Like just completely zeroed in on all the up things in life. Notice all the little cracks and flaws in just absolute garbage nonsense. Gna bring someone. Yo authentic.
You're up, buddy.
CALLER 1
How are you doing today?
HOST
I'm good, man. What's up, man?
CALLER 1
What was your experience when you went through the depersonalization and nihilism, you know, because I know that all these, the, the ability to ignore these trivial problems comes from putting them into perspective, that nothing matters. So do you have any experience in depersonalization?
HOST
No, I think it's the opposite. I think actually letting the trivial things fall to the wayside is actually the pipeline to godhood, brother. I think the angels play the trumpets for the who are able to let this fall away, bro. Because look, in the modern world, the modern world is inherently nihilistic because of the, of all these man made structures and constructs.
People legitimately are convinced that these, These very small problems have to be solved. And they do not, my friend. They do not. I am very untidy.
Very, very untidy, But I'm clean. You understand the difference? You can be very untidy, but you could still be pristinely clean. I'm a clean motherfucker.
My place is clean, but it's not tidy. It's not organized. You know what I mean? I know how to navigate my own mess.
I got fucking shirts and socks and fucking clothes strewn out everywhere. If I use a cup, 0% chance I'm putting it back in the fucking right location because I have that fire in my belly and I know how absurd it is to exchange and bargain that mental bandwidth for things that don't produce results. You understand? You understand the difference.
So it's the opposite of nihilism. It's extremely spiritual. What I'm saying here, bro, this is. This is what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about the human spirit and having the heart and the capacity to dig super deep and challenge the status quo, which basically tells you that you are a successful adult if all your bills are paid on time and your living space is organized. There's much more to life than this, my man. There's much more out there to be sought. There's much more out there to be rewarded.
Much more. Much, much, much more. So I'm offering you the opposite perspective. But anyway, I appreciate it.
CALLER 1
Thank you.
HOST
El Waro. Yo. El Waro. And then we got next.
What's up, bro?
CALLER 1
Yo, can you hear me all right, bro?
HOST
Yeah, yeah.
CALLER 1
Sorry, I almost. I'm driving. Almost crash over here, bro. It's crazy, bro.
That. What the. The things you're saying, I think it, it all. It almost goes into the same lane of.
When you said about the people that are like, only focused on their health and on their diet and like that. I mean, it all comes down to what you've been saying and talking about that leaning into your nature and your mission. Because at the end of the day, like what you just mentioned about the cup, like what, like how does that change anything in the big picture? Like, you know what I mean?
HOST
Exactly, bro. It's exactly my point. How does bringing up the trash bins right on time, how does that fucking do a goddamn thing? Because here's the deal.
Let me. Let me go further with this. People who lack internal organization need the cope of external organization. Like, I am very internally organized and centered.
Even though I have a chaotic mind, my internal structure is really on point. So I can live in the most chaotic of environments. I can have music blaring. I can fucking have absolute fucking chaos and raucous noises clinging and fucking clanging.
I can have workers outside drilling and fucking hammering nails. Guess what? If I still need to type up a fucking tweet or an email or fucking have a business call, it's going to happen. My environment ain't fucking destabilizing me.
So people who lack that internal confidence and don't have that internal compass or that, or even that internal structure, they need the external organization in order to be internally organized. And it's a, it's a crutch. It's a crutch. And look, I'll tell you something, I'm a, I'm a personal fan of crutches.
I think, I think crutches are, I think coping is good. I think coping is fundamentally very good. I think every human being is coping in their own way. And I think crutches can be very powerful mechanisms for moving life forward.
You know what I mean? There's who can't see, who gotta wear glasses, so be it. I think all forms of crutches, we're all using them in our own way. But it's important to understand that it is a crutch.
CALLER 1
What, like it depends on what a type of crutch it is though. Because I, I've heard you also talking about the cope and how the code becomes your nature eventually. Because I mean the code mechanism is, you know, it's, it's a self defense mechanism that you develop over time, you know, because you needed to, basically the pathological aspect to it. But all these people, bro, that are in the, in that lane that you're talking about, I mean I, I feel like this type of message that you talk about, sadly you're either gonna get it or you don't.
Because I mean that what, what you're saying, a lot of people are gonna take it like, oh, like is this telling me to like just, just be a mess? No, bro, like that. He's telling you to actually just focus on what matters.
HOST
Exactly.
CALLER 1
And listen to your own nature.
HOST
Exactly right. That's exactly right. It's refreshing not to have a midwit up here. That is exactly correct.
I'm not obviously telling people to purposely live in a mess. The point of the matter is, is that you need to take a close examination of what you're finding achievement in. You know what I mean? The things that are giving you, the things that are giving you the Russian life, like do you want to win?
Or do you want to just be neat and tidy and pristine and immaculate? And look, that's what these toy soldiers are all about. A lot of these health maxers, it's, it's just toy soldier shit. It's building up these massive reservoirs of health and fucking energy.
But they never, they never use the energy. They don't expend it. You just store it up for year after year after year. Look, I'll tell you something.
In my 20s, and I recommend this to all fucking dudes in their 20s, I got my eight hours a night. I got my three meals a day. I got my eight hours a Night. I did eight hours of night asleep for years and I've been on the war path ever since because it came to a point where I was like, look, I just got 10 years in the bank.
I'm super well rested. Let's go spend all this stored up, pent up energy I have now. I'm in my mid-30s, brother. I sleep three or four hours a night max.
I'm never too tired to do a goddamn thing. The wheels are always running. I'm always saying yes to things, doing, taking opportunities, making phone calls. I'm always active.
But biologically, because you're actually excited.
CALLER 1
Sorry, bro. Sorry.
HOST
Well, because that's, that's the, what people don't understand is that's the restoration cycle. The rest. The restoration cycle. Yeah, go ahead.
CALLER 1
No, I'm so sorry, dude. I keep talking over you, bro. I'm sorry. I was gonna say like, the reason why, you know.
Yeah, I know. The reason why you're able to like, you know, just go three, four hours of sleep and still be good is because you're actually excited to wake up and go get after the fucking mission, bro. It's the only answer. To be happy and to be fully fulfilled as a person is to have your mission.
Like. And, and I see this in a lot of my family members because I. You also talked about the fact that how the boomers, right, like, they got sold on, on, on, you know, just having a job and, you know, just going that route. And you know, they're 50, 60 years old and then got shit.
They're just living, you know, way below the average person. And so at that point, I mean, I don't, I don't know if, if it's their fault at that point. But, but like, I feel like at this point, like if you're, if you're, if you're choosing to go down that route, it's, it's Mostly your fault. And, I mean, it's just an escape, you know what I mean?
To actually not take the risk, to actually not.
HOST
Facts. You. You nailed it, brother. So what it is, is it's a lot of young guys that are actually in retirement, and they don't even realize they're living a retired lifestyle already.
And boomers are a great example of this too. I mean, boomers get so bored to tears in life. They get so bored, after a while, they really got nothing going on. They stop challenging themselves mentally, physically.
I mean, there's. Dude who will literally belabor themselves for hours about what color to paint the house. They'll go get a flywheel, they'll go get a color palette, and they will sit there and deliberate for hours. They'll go to the neighbor's house and ask for their opinion.
They'll fucking call their nephew, ask his opinion. What color should I paint the fucking house? Should it be fuchsia? Should it be fucking sapphire?
Like, what?
CALLER 1
What?
HOST
What? What do I fucking paint the shed? And, bro, it's like, who gives a. About any of this?
Like, if you. If I go to a store or I need something painted or something, brother, you put a color in front of me, it takes me a millisecond to just be like, all right, that's the one. Let's go. Move on.
Paint it. Let's go. That's it. Clothing, right?
CALLER 1
And that's. You're in that state of flow. You're in that state of flow, bro.
HOST
Massively. Massively. I go to a store, I see a shirt I like, boom, done. It's over.
Like, I don't sit there and go, oh, does this print? Looks. This print, this color? No, no, bro, if I like it, I'm done.
I'm out. I'm out the doors, I'm flying. But there's. Bro, you see this?
You see how this manifests itself? There's people in the grocery store who will be in the grocery store with the shopping cart for, like, 45 minutes. And I. And I know what it is.
I know where it's coming from. A lot of these people have been beaten down in life so bad. They hate coming home to their wife. They hate.
They just have people breathe. They have people breathing down their neck and barking orders at them all day long that when they get an opportunity to go to a store, to go shopping, it's like a breath of fresh air. It's like, fuck. This is the only fucking window of time I have in my life where no one's going to tell me what to do.
So they just go slow and they browse the aisles and they look at fucking the Cheerio box. Should I get honey nut Cheerios? Fucking like it's, it's just insane. And they use it as like a refuge.
It becomes like a respite. Like almost like an hour long vacation. And it just takes them an hour to get common, ordinary things done. Whereas a guy like me, I go to the store, boom, steak, boom.
Eggs, done out the door, like five minutes, I'm blazing through the aisles. I already have my purpose. I already know what life's about. Go get your groceries, go get your.
And move on with your life. But dude, people make a mission out of going to the store. It's crazy. And it's like, bro, no wonder you're broke.
No wonder you've never seen any real money. No wonder your, your life is miserable.
CALLER 1
And that, and that is the only part, I mean that is the, that is the other part about it. Like what you said, like, they hate, they hate going back to their. Because obviously, I mean, you can. Like the way you do one thing is the way you do everything right?
Like at the end of the day, like if, if. I mean, it's crazy that this is what I'm saying.
HOST
It's like the guy knows deep down, he's like, I know when I get home, my wife's gonna badger me that
CALLER 1
I, I have to deal with this.
HOST
Yeah, she's gonna badger me that I left my shirt on outside on the patio. So he's like, I'm gonna take another 45 minutes and maybe take a detour. Maybe I'll go to CVS and start looking at some plastic products. Maybe I'll go get some Pepto Bismol, start looking at some medication.
Bro, this is what these guys are doing because. And they don't even realize. Yeah, it's just they know when they get home they're going to get chewed out. They have zero fucking power over their life.
They know they're going to get fucking hammered. So they just make a fucking fantastical mission over common ordinary things that you should be doing anyway. And they glamorize it. They glamour.
CALLER 1
It's an escape.
HOST
Yeah, total escape. It's a total escape is what it is.
CALLER 1
It's an escape, bro. And I mean, obviously, you know, I'm in the process of learning and I'll say bro, like, it's crazy how like at a very turn turning point in my life, I came across your message. And it is so crazy. I mean, As I said, like, I'm still learning a lot of and I'm still in the come up and I'm realizing, I mean in my, you know, I'm, I'm not at that level where, you know, I'm married to a bitch.
I don't like, I'm very blessed to make money in a way that, you know, it ties to my mission, but it's just crazy. Oh, I'm sorry if I lost my, kind of lost my turn of thought here. No. Okay, so basically like it's, it's, it's, it's a, you know, this route of living by your, you know, wearing your heart, you sleeve and leaning into your nature like at the beginning, you know, I mean if you're kind of like getting rid of all habits and getting rid of all a mentality, it is a painful process and it's obviously a lot easier to stay, you know, in a relationship you don't like in a job that you, you're, you're comfortable in because you're gonna get beaten up at the beginning, like you're gonna have to sacrifice a lot.
But at the end of the day, bro, like, and somebody asked you a question in a spaces like a month ago or something where like this guy was telling you like, hey, like I have two options. Like I'll either go like hyper normie way or I just keep going. Like, you know, I just took like a very God wrenching shot. And I mean bro, like I've been in that situation like, like a lot of times and like right now a lot of things are starting to make a lot of sense, you know, and, and it's, it's been a lot of pain, bro.
Like it's been a lot of pain, you know, the, the learning process. But I just, I could, I like, I kept picturing myself like, okay, like if I go the normie way, I know that when I'm 50, when I'm 60 years old, like I'm gonna either be in jail, be a fucking alcoholic, like I'm going to be miserable as fuck. And so I mean, and that's why I said like right now there's so much knowledge out there and there are so many fucking options that if you decide to be a loser, it's completely on you 100%.
HOST
Think about, think about the level of creativity you have to actually have to be a loser. It takes an outrageous amount of intelligence and creativity.
CALLER 1
That's crazy.
HOST
It's so creative. The fact that these people got themselves in these pigeonholes and Their. Their life is where it's at. It took so much effort.
You have to try so hard to lose in the modern world. You really have to fucking just be like a Picasso at this shit. Like, these guys are just artists of losing. They are so clever and creative at creating restrictions and levying impositions on themselves that are baffling.
It's like these guys will find the craziest ways to put themselves in a fucking straitjacket. It's wild, bro.
CALLER 1
I. I'm. It's crazy, bro.
HOST
By the way, as much creativity to make money as it does to get poor. Like, the dude, I was just gonna. The amount of effort exerted is truly the same. It is.
And you got to be smart to be a loser, too. People think losers are dumb. It's like, no, no, no. They're very intelligently putting themselves in these horrible positions.
Take work.
CALLER 1
Yeah, like, like, like making that labyrinth. It takes, bro. Like, I was. I.
Because, you know, like a couple days ago I saw this homeless guy and I was like this. The same exact thought just came to me, bro. Like, it takes the same amount of energy to get there than to become a millionaire. Like, if you really think about it, bro, like, it takes the same amount.
HOST
It's identical. You write just like making yourself strong or making yourself weak. It's the same amount of energy. You just got to pick one.
CALLER 1
Exactly. Exactly, dude. Thanks a lot, bro. Like, I really appreciate it too.
HOST
Yo, Reds. Yo. What's going on?
CALLER 1
So you mentioned in the past that you think procrastination is a superpower. I'm wondering if you could explain that. And also, does that tie into this disdain for orderliness?
HOST
For sure. Procrastination works really well if you're super overly ambitious and you like to try to like, thread the needle and squeeze deadlines. Look, when there's a genuine desire to get something done in a certain amount of time, the genius comes out. And that's where kind of all innovation springs from in certain types of people.
Certain types of people like to be ahead of the game. But look, there's a reason why the metaphor behind the eight ball exists. Because there are a lot of high functioning who just like to constantly play behind the eight ball because then you got to do trick shots and you got to get really creative and industrious and they. They actually produce their best work.
You know what I mean? At the. In the 12th hour. But I do, but I do see procrastination as an adhd, sort of like an offshoot kind of auxiliary trade of adhd.
And again, it's all about understanding how time condenses for winners. Like, the winners are literally in a whole different time zone than everybody else. Everyone thinks time is created equally. We all have 24 hours in a day to utilize.
Absolutely not the case. Because power and. And having those faculties really does sort of push the time scale. These guys are making things happen on a much faster rate in a much faster pace than anybody else.
I don't know if you recall, but you want to talk about procrastination. I mean, look, the best path in life, in my opinion, is being extremely direct about your intentions with everybody. Zero concealment. Zero concealment.
And then things get sped up drastically. There's a lot of guys who literally have to have to dance and wear the feathered headdress and do the rain dance, and they have to go through the courtship process with a woman for, like, six months to finally get a breakthrough. There's other who just literally walk up to a woman and declare their attentions right away and get it right there on the spot who's. Who's in a different time zone.
Time is not created equally what so ever. Got it.
CALLER 1
All right, man. I appreciate that.
HOST
Thank you. Yo, Martell. Martel, you're up. All right, we'll slide over to.