The fusion of opposites
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And we're mega back. Let's talk about the syzygy of masculinity and femininity.
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I, I think this is the, this type of discourse has probably the most fables surrounding it. It's probably the most misunderstood concept in the entire space. It's. It's a concept that is extraordinarily complex
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and intricate in the way that the human organism deals with these types of things.
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And historically, if you're well read on
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guys like Carl Jung, firebrands, trailblazers of thought, people have devoted their life's work to fleshing out these unions of opposites because it's undeniable, even to the untrained eye, the allure and the seductive component to an individual that is fully individuated, which means that the anima, which is the feminine and the animus, have a collision and there's a coalescence there. And when those things are functioning synchronistically, it's game over. You become a steamroller, you become a weapon, and it's much easier to conduct your destiny from that standpoint. So here's how it works.
I'll tell you right now, masculinity is pretty gay as a standalone concept. Masculinity on in its. On its own two legs is a slave mindset. Women are the more exhibitionistic sex.
They have the freedom and the luxury of pretty much doing whatever the they want, saying whatever the they want when they want to. And the masculine usually has to sit there and take it. Okay, the function. And I just tweeted about this and I really want to hammer this home.
Chew on this for a second. The, the, the. The true baller function of the masculine, it's much better served as a shell if you are in a masculine shell, which means you have a robust, vital, strong masculine body. Your frame, your constitution is masculine, right?
The hardware, the plumbing, the durability, the hardiness, the steeliness is masculine. If you download feminine software and inject it into a masculine shell, it is game over. You are hell on wheels to deal with. And the reason for that is because especially in the modern landscape, in order to even be a conductor and be a maestro and orchestrate a proper relationship with a woman, you have to have territory.
You have to have mental real estate conquered. And we all know women are the masters of psychological warfare, right? This ain't even my opinion. This is biblical.
If you go back and it's referential, every. There's a reason why every religious doctrine has some offshoot quote about hell hath no fury for a Woman scorned because even the most badass throughout history that were fearless, they were intrepid in the face of battle or in the face of the most Goliath enemies. Every single man throughout history has somewhat had a woman that they feared more than any holy man on earth
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because
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of the psychological terror and warfare that women will put men through. And so in order to level the playing field and in order to quell that, you have to learn the psychological tricks that women have. And so if you get a man in a masculine frame who can defend himself, who can defend his territory, but he also has the psychological wizardry of a woman, good luck. That's all I can tell you.
Good luck, because you're gonna need it,
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you understand?
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And this archetype, this, this fusion of these opposites has worked extremely well for centuries. All the artists, all the, all the types of men who walked around very aloof, very cavalier, very hottie, very arrogant, emotionally exhibitionistic, unpredictable. These men have always, always had women in droves to sign up to whatever voyage they were on. It's unfucking deniable.
And there's a, there's a reason why the blockheaded. Let's, let's go to the other extreme. Let's go to the, all the men who, who have been fucking psyoped into just pure, raw, unbridled masculinity. Let's look at how they're doing.
The blockheads, right, the tough guys, the guys who just have no, no iq, no psychological underpinnings whatsoever, but they can change your tire. They're good, you know, they have mechanical knowledge like that. I don't know where the, that became this like crazy masculine virtue. Like I ain't gonna sit here and bash like having some technical knowledge.
I, I can change a tire if I had to. But like, that ain't the bastion of masculinity. Just because you know how to use a pipe wrench or change a light bulb, that's the, the biggest psyop of all time. Because let me tell you something, there's a more feminine man out there who's got bread, who will just make a phone call and someone else will do it at their behest.
It's pretty masculine, if you ask me. Commanding other men to do your bidding and to fix your shit that's broken. You're in a fucking command role, you know what I'm saying? And that's why I keep telling you masculinity is a slave mindset in many ways because you become overly self reliant.
You become overly self reliant. And what that does is it shuns you. It shuns you from the adventures and the thrills and the exaltations and the experiences in the world that actually kind of build that holistic male. The most alpha on earth.
Have the female software downloaded in that show. There's just no two ways about it. You can try to twist and turn
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this and corkscrew it any which way
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you like, but you're always going to land up in this to the same fucking conclusion.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I told you from day one and I've been vindicated as all heretics are. There was an account, an esoteric account on Twitter. I think her name's Anna something. She's like this very small Russian account.
I think she's got like 3,000 followers.
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She put out a tweet this week
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that was identical to a point that I had made years ago on a spaces. When I told you, what did I tell you? The. The number one thing that gives you the most power in a relationship with a woman.
Not money, not status, not how much weight she can lift. None of your technical skills. What did I tell you? I said it's the ability to display at all times that a woman cannot deceive you, that you cannot be bamboozled.
You.
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She.
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Her psychological trickery is ineffective on you. You see her coming a mile down the pike every time you can call it out. She cannot lie to you. She cannot fool you in any way, shape or form.
That's it. That's the crux of the entire male female dynamic. If you're in a situation and a woman actually can understand that and grasp that viscerally, she doesn't even have to be able to articulate it. But women do not like gullible men.
Do you understand? Women do not like men who can be easily cheated or deceived. That's it. That's the underpinnings of it.
But the, the paradox is how the. Do you think you get there as a man? How do you think you get that skill set? It's by delving, as I've told you, which is the, the natural theater for
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a man to play in.
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The, the playground for men is in the adventure realm, right? It's on the. Your high adventures. Going off into the mountains, going on these, these tracks and, and, and traversing these journeys, these labyrinths, completing these mazes in life.
Those. That's a feminine undertaking, right? Because that, that's what men crave. Whereas I've told You that women on the opposite side of the spectrum, women crave the masculine creation.
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The objects that we make, the ob.
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The. The objects that we use, money that we convert money into. Ferraris, Lambos, bling, monster trucks, cribs, mansions. Women are dazzled by that because that's the masculine realm, you understand?
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So everything is reversed.
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And so if you can walk around and. And here's the thing, there's no prescription for this. I'm just telling you how things are. It's not like you can go back and reverse engineer this, all right?
Because every Casanova suave Don Juan
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had
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a very rocky relationship with their mother. And that tends to be kind of nature's push. That's what sort of beckons men and sort of makes this transformation in men where they start really understanding female psychology. If you're a male who had a very narcissistic mother growing up and you get those rose tinted glasses smashed on from an early age, you're gonna have
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a leg up on everybody because you're
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going to understand to be able to unweave and disentangle yourself from female nature from a very, very early age. And so it is an advantage.
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It is an advantage because what happens is.
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And again, I say this morally judgment free. I'm just telling you how the way the world works. Accept it or don't, but this is how it works. Narcissism, which as we know is a hallmark feminine trait.
A man who's narcissistic is. Becomes the centrifuge of his life, becomes the epicenter. You know what I'm saying? That centripetal force, everything around him literally gravitates and gets sucked into his black hole, that narcissistic personality disorder.
And the reason you know, that narcissism is so powerful is because of all the behaviors that are studied in behavioral science. Narcissism has had more tomes, more experiments, more resources, more time spent trying to crack and unveil what is going on. What is the mechanism that holds narcissism together? Go to a library, Google it.
Go see how many books have been published on dedicating their life to trying to understand and figure out narcissistic personality disorder. It's baffling. It's psychopathy, sociopathy. These other personality disorders don't even hold a candle to this thing.
The amount of time, resources and energy
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dedicated to trying to unwind it.
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And if you're paying attention, you'll have cracked a grin already because you'll realize the irony that it is the Most unattackable, unassailable personality. Because the narcissist, even when you're trying to defend against it and study it, you're still making it all about them. So no matter what avenue you take with the narcissist, you're still playing into their hands at all times. There's.
There's no way around it. Even when you attack it, you're playing into their hands because it's still about them. You understand? So you're always in a defensive, crouched posture.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You're always strafing against a who's narcissistic. And like I told you, don't you dare try to get cute and try
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to behave narcissistically
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as a Persona because
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you're going to get mangled.
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You're going to get absolutely mauled and mangled. These are, these are natural personality aberrations that spawn from usually breaking the chains with family members. That's just how it works.
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And I'll tell you right now, a
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lot of you are going to find
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this to be hard to chew on,
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but I don't give a. Because I'm going to tell you how it works. I have not. I have yet to meet a single interesting figure.
Interesting, okay, I'm not saying right, wrong. Interesting. Who did not have to take a sledgehammer and smash the chains to their parents to pieces. Every interesting figure you can possibly name has had some sort of very, very rocky bouts with their parents.
Because that is the only rite of passage that there is. Like, if you haven't horrifically disappointed your parents, you're not even living anywhere near close to your potential.
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I mean, it doesn't matter how many ways you want to slice and dice it. It doesn't necessarily mean that you have
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to have bad blood either.
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That's not really what I'm talking about. I'm saying that oftentimes you have to
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deprogram and you have to tar and feather a lot of these downloads that are just completely antiquated and outdated. And you have to be willing to rise up and challenge those things. I know a lot of young men that are excruciatingly self destructive and sabotage themselves at every minute and experience self loathing and truly hate themselves. There's a lot of men out there that really despise who they are.
And I'm gonna you, I'm gonna piggyback off in earlier spaces because it's worth mentioning again. These men don't realize that they are destroying their life because it's a cry for help. They actually want to show their parents how badly damaged that they were. They want to show their parents, look, I'm gonna be the biggest loser on earth and I'm gonna suffer perennially to show you mom and dad how badly you fucked with such an innocent, beautiful life.
And that's the reason a lot of men think that they're punishing their parents. They're somehow getting back at them by showing them the damage that was wrought upon them. And that's a very, very bitch response because the correct response should be, you ain't going to let them win.
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You have to win.
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Now. Especially if you're someone that comes from a damaged upbringing and you were not nurtured and you had a lot of struggles with your family life, you have an obligation to win simply because why would you let them win? You are innocent.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Anytime there's friction between, anytime like a, a son or a daughter hates like one of their parents, like literally probably
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99 out of 100 times, 999 times
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out of a thousand, usually the parents
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fault and it's usually because of that narcissism.
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It's, it's real. I've yet to see very many cases
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where the kid was truly wrong in the equation. You know what I'm saying?
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And so you gotta, you gotta really bring awareness when you're self destructing and
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you're destroying your body and you're destroying your life.
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You really have to, to throw some
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light on this and understand that it's
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actually you genuflecting and bending the knee to your parents and letting the damage win. And why the would you do that? Why wouldn't you push back and have that redemption arc and be able to stand tall with your chest out and
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be like, look, I overcame this.
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You, you did it all wrong. But here I am. That's the only baller response. Like why would you let them win?
You were innocent, you didn't deserve it.
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And that's just the reality of the situation.
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And I think almost all of you who have extremely self destructive tendencies can
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relate to what I just told you.
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If you really think about it, it all stems from that. I do want to open the floor. I want to see if some of you have the cojones.
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Because what I've really wanted to do
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actually is I want to do a
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deep breakdown on some relationship problems.
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So if some of you have some crazy relationship problems and you're not afraid to share the gory details, I guarantee You.
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We can get to the bottom of it live on air.
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So come up.
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I'm gonna sit back for a second.
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I'm gonna have some other fucking soliloquies
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and monologues in the meantime, but I'm
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gonna kick back for a second and field some questions.
CALLER 3
Yo, what's up, brute?
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What's going on?
CALLER 4
Hey. I want to share, basically. So about a month ago, I didn't want to talk to my dad, right? And when I was, like, nine years old, my mom passed away from, like, a drug overdose, all right?
And I started to put the blame on him for, like, alcohol, prescription pills, everything. Like, he's like. I. I believe that he's just unconsciously, like, pushing that onto people and then, like, unconsciously, like, consuming it.
So I got in, like, an argument with, like, him a little bit, with, like, my grandma, too. Like, she was trying to defend him because that's her son. But I'm trying to say, like, a marriage is, like a bond between two souls. Like, it's just as much as his fault as it.
As much as it is hers.
HOST
Huh? I mean, you're joking, right?
CALLER 4
No, I'm not joking.
HOST
That's insane, dude. This isn't social commentary. Like, you have to actually ask a question. It's just common social decorum.
Got blake up here. All right, I'm gonna bring up a.
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Like a.
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A coupling of. Of speakers at a time. Do not interrupt anybody who's speaking until I call on you, please. Yo, Don.
Don Shine.
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Oh, my bad, bro. What's up? Let's go. So, Mike, my question to you is, how would you define self respect,
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bro? I don't really think self respect is a real thing. Kind of like how I think. I think self love is fake.
I think the body and the. And your life is meant to be sacrificed in many ways. Self respect. I mean, look, the only reason why we go all in on health and we go all in.
In vitality and take care of ourselves is to expend it. The reason. The reason why I think self respect is. Is because think about it from this perspective.
Nobody gives a mother how much money you have in your bank account.
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No one cares what you. What your accomplishments are.
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People only people are drawn to what you're willing to expend. That's what people. That's what. That's What's.
That's what's seductive to people. No one gives a. About your $100 million sitting in a account.
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Yeah, that makes sense, man.
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But people are drawn to what you're willing to Shed what you're willing to bloodlet, what you're willing to withdraw from the needle. You know what I'm saying?
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What you're willing to throw on the line, that's what draws people.
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What are you willing to spend?
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What are you willing to sacrifice?
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Everything else is complete, man. Stockpiling all that. You could look at that as a form of self respect, but no one gives a. You know what I mean?
CALLER 5
Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. What about like, if you're, if you're the type of person that gets a lot of cravings and you indulge in them sometimes and you feel like, guilty, Guilty, shameful over it, you kind of like, you know, you kind of feel bad over it. You know what I mean? Nah.
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Let me tell you something. Yeah, let me tell you something.
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This is how this works. So in life,
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there's mixed bags of
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good habits and bad habits. Okay? Mixed bags.
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There's only a certain amount of configurations you get to pick. Now you get to choose the bag. You get to choose the bag of mixed.
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The mixed bag of good habits and bad habits. And there's gonna be both in there.
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The marbles inside the bag are not
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for you to play with, which means
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you don't get to. With the marbles. You get to choose the bag. So every bag is gonna have some, some sort of combination, some sort of shuffle of bad and good.
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And you gotta learn how to adapt
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to both and make a fusion so
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that they, that they work in conjunction with one another.
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And this is the problem. This is why anytime someone comes to me and they're like, dude, my bad
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habits, bad habits, I'm like, dude, shut the up.
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Let me tell you something.
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Every successful on earth has learned how to blend the bad habits with the good ones. And if they took away all the bad ones and were left with only good ones, they would no longer have any thrust or propulsion to spring off of. That's how that works.
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That's how it works. So pick the bag, but don't with the marbles.
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That makes sense. I think there's also, like, you feel like.
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Let me, like, Let me tell you something.
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I, I. Look, I'm not, I'll never condone porn, but there's a lot of, There's a lot of idiots on Twitter who genuinely believe that.
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Like, dude, I'm here to tell you
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right now, if watching porn destroys your
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life in any capacity or destroys your
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sex drive or makes you fucking morose or, or fucking steals your energy, I
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don't think you had much of a chance anyway.
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Yeah.
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To be, to be quiet.
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That's real.
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I think very, very overblown. I think it's very overblown. Don't interrupt me.
CALLER 5
Oh, my bad, my bad.
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Listen, it's like all these habits and that people are claiming destroy their life. It's like, brother, you like, if you, you got to learn how to extract the medicine from the poison in life, that's like the real skill set is, is you got to learn how to take the poison and extract the medicine from it. And, and the best of the best. I'll all do this.
I saw a post the other day.
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Some bonehead said that your competition is
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extremely disciplined and the rest of the
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world is suffering and struggling because they have addiction laziness.
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Dude, it's the opposite. Every high functioning has like 20 addictions.
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20 pathologies in the DSM. 20 maladaptive personality traits.
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Like get the out of here. Like, success is. Is naturally gonna you up. You're gonna get up on the journey to excess.
You're not going to come out of that a wholesome being that's just never going to happen. And if you want to remain wholesome, then just don't even, don't even take that first step. Because in order to complete any journey,
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you got to go through the bell curve.
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You know what I'm, you know what I'm saying? You start on the left, you start on the left, and you pass through the middle. And the middle is the slave class. And one.
And you have to pass through slavery. We all have to pay our dues. We all have to pass through that
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golden middle and put in the grunt
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work and put in the slave work.
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And then eventually you pass out through
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the other side like a kidney stone. And you're on the right, and you're on the right side of the bell curve and mission is complete.
CALLER 5
Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, let's go, bro. Thank you very much, huh? Yeah, I'll let someone else get on.
Yeah. Have a nice day, bro.
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Later. Bobby Fiser. What's up,
CALLER 2
yo, what's up, Brute?
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What's up, man?
CALLER 2
Yeah, so I just wanted to jump on because you wanted, you know, some stories to do with like, up relationships and just. I think I know I've gone through your Twitter spaces a lot and
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the
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topics I've kind of picked out were to do with codependencies, you know, addictions, like as a man as well, you know, seeking mastery. And like the topic you just spoke about with porn fits perfectly. Basically, I cut straight to the point like about a year and a bit ago I found out that my dad literally was doing porn. He's still with my mom, they didn't split.
And like I've looked at all those addictions and looking back at my life, you know, I want to ask you because I know that the drive that I have as a man to, you know, just loads of women do all this stuff, get money, smash gym. That's the testosterone, right? But when I found out, like my sister, she, she found out four years ago, bro, that she's younger than me. She told me how she found out.
She tried like self harm and I've always been pushing this positivity stuff and like it just came up with all these demons, bro. Just like it felt like I'd manifested this at a perfect stage of my life to hit rock bottom and give me the drive that I needed. You know, like loads of relationships breaking down at the time I seen that all the struggles I've had with my mother was due to her like codependency on my dad and not being able to, you know, fake the, the, the emotions. So basically how, how does a young man seeking to just the world and just smash his goals fight back that shadow that you know, his, his ancestors, his dad, you know, he.
I can't even look him in the eyes, but I know that I'm fighting the same demons, bro,
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of your father.
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Yeah, like everything.
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Yeah. So that's just an unlucky dice roll. I was talking to my homie about this the other day. What happens is a lot of times is in ancestry there it actually there's an alternating pattern.
So you'll see a grandfather will pass on a majority of the genes to a grandson. And usually the grandson, if, depending on if the father was a, was a bad father or not, will tend to try to go the complete opposite way of the father. If the, if the, if the grandfather was an evil villainous type of character, usually the father's response will to kind of overcorrect the other way and take the saintly path. And then the son will usually inherit some traits from the grandfather and then he'll go opposite again.
So there's like, it's like an alternating cross stitch pattern that you see in family generations. And so the whole rock bottom thing that you're talking about is interesting because look, I'm going to tell you right now, the only freedom that exists in life is it is, is at rock bottom. Financial freedom ain't a real thing. Everyone talks about financial freedom.
When I have hundreds of millies and shit. Everything's going to be fucking peachy. Get the fuck out of here. The hardest thing in life to do is remain naked when life and wealth is going to throw all that attire on you.
You know what I'm saying? Life and wealth will put a ton of attire and adornments and ornaments on you. And it's very hard to remain naked and primal when you have that abundance. You literally see this every day.
What did Ryan Garcia just do the other day on Twitter? Intentionally tried to sabotage his entire empire and hit rock bottom because he's desperate for that freedom again. And he's got you money, by the way. He's got a couple hundred milli and he doesn't know how to handle it.
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And he wants to lose everything and
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he wants to go back to the bottom to play the game again. He wanted to get exiled from boxing. That was done intentionally. That was orchestrated.
That wasn't an accident. And because everybody knows from a primal level, the only freedom that really does exist is at rock bottom, which is why so many motherfuckers never get their feet off the ground. Because you're completely free.
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You're unburdened, you're.
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It's not cumbersome down there. There's no expectations on you. The hardest thing to do is to
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make it and then keep it. And that's. That's. You're not free, my friend.
You have to.
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You have a lot more money, more problems. That is dead on accurate, you know what I'm saying? It's almost like the more wealth you accumulate, the less free you really are. It doesn't matter what people say.
I don't give a if you're flying around private jets, Rolls Royce Phantoms, I. I don't give a what you're doing. All these have basically denounced it at some point in time. Dan B.
Arian, that talks about how his brain is permanently fried and destroyed from all the hedonism that he's engaged in. You know what I'm saying? So all these who strike it big and get everything that everybody on Twitter says they want, they end up denouncing it and wanting to go back and live a simple life, because that's where the true freedom is. You know what I mean?
That's why people conquer and then lose it all and then restart the process again, because that is the masculine impulse. Wisdom is feminine. Storytelling is feminine. Those are all feminine modalities that men are drawn to.
And in order to get wisdom, you have to go into the feminine domains in life. In order to extract wisdom. That's just how it works. There's no wisdom in grinding and making money.
You understand that masculine slave work, putting in the grunt work, putting in the hours, putting in the repetition. There's no wisdom there. The wisdom is in, is in the chaos. It's in the exotic.
That's where all the wisdom lies. You know what I'm saying? So for you,
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I don't, I don't
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believe in refereeing parental disputes at all. You know what I'm saying? If you were sired by your father, you don't, you don't referee disputes between parents at all. But what I'm saying is, is that
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fundamentally, at some point in your life, you should have been able to smash
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those chains and go out on your own. And I'm talking like, this is what people just really don't understand, man. People like, in order to really, really
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become a force of nature, you have
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to disappoint your parents at the level to where they're worried sick about you,
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to where they are.
CALLER 2
Real quick, if I can interrupt you, man.
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Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
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Because, yeah, I'm really the flow that you're going with. I don't want to lose this point. Like, mate, I, I would say I'm consecutively consistently disappointed them blazing my own path. And when I found out this information, so that's why I didn't want to lose this point.
Like. And what you said about extracting the medicine from the poison, mate, like, I was laughing through the pain because I, I knew this was, this was God's gift to me, to convert me from just the desire of, you know, Skull, my path to actually doing it. And, you know, I'm still on the process, but what you talked about with the, the grandfather to father and then that, that generational, like, switch back and forth, I just wanted you to go back there if you could, because I know my dad's got a lot of trauma with his father, and that's something he. He always wanted to be the good dad and ended up and in my eyes, being like, you know, he was my superhero.
And he up and now he's like the evil villain.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So I'll give you a personal example. So my grandfather was, for all intents and purposes, a probably 1 in 20 billion specimen. The was an absolute certified genius Renaissance
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man, huge brain, multi talented architect, global
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developer, inventor, sculptor, artist, painter.
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Huge works of art.
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Huge works of art. A lot of movies that you've seen, especially from like the 80s, a lot of the buildings that the settings were fucking filmed on. He, he literally built those buildings. Huge architectural works all over the place.
Built amusement parks in China. Lot of fucking, lot of fucking global power my grandfather had. And my father, my father, but he was also a degenerate. He was a, he was a brawler.
He was a drug user. I believe he was a functioning alcoholic. He had a lot of mental issues, but very talented at his craft.
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Okay.
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My father went the complete opposite tack and took the saintly. My dad's a super, super devout Christian. Took the saintly road. Lives very lives, a very Christlike life and a massive amount of integrity, virtue, all the, all the, all that.
My dad turned out to be the one of the biggest losers that I know personally. My dad has never had a pot to piss in his entire life. Couldn't make a dollar, didn't know how to self promote, couldn't make a sale. Totally debilitated and uncephalized when it comes to business.
Literally. I had to support him through many years of my life just so he could survive because the guy doesn't know how to make any money.
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Certified loser.
HOST
And my point is, and this is kind of ties perfectly back into the first topic of the show about how masculinity is the slave mindset. He's so attached to this warrior samurai identity of minimalism and living true to himself and never bending his principles. This guy's principles never break. He's the most hard headed, stubborn, pugnacious individual I've ever met in my life.
Nothing gets through his skull. He does everything his way, but he's highly, highly, highly principled. And so my point is, is that any man who is that inflexible and that rigid turns into a loser and the cope becomes, yeah, but I'm sticking to my truth. And so oftentimes sticking to your truth and sticking to your guns and being unwilling to bend becomes you justifying a losing position in life.
And that's exactly what my father did. And then I saw the way he was and I went the complete opposite direction. You know what I'm saying? He doesn't understand the way I live at.
I'm way too wild and chaotic for his style. You know, we don't, we didn't see eye to eye on anything. And so it's that alternating cross stitch pattern. And I have a feeling that my son is probably gonna also overcorrect and be more of like the square type, you know what I'm saying?
It's just kind of how it works because there just, there's just not room for too many archetypes that are stylistically that much of an outlier. Like the whole world would spin off its axis if just.01% additions were made to these types of characters. These who live from the heart, who embrace chaos, who don't schedule, don't plan things very hard to keep up with these types of people, you know what I'm saying? Which is why they're so attractive to women, because they're so unpredictable, you know what I'm saying?
But they're living from the feminine. They're living from those feminine graces and feminine virtues.
CALLER 1
They're so.
HOST
Chaos is feminine, chaos is feminine. We got elements. We got earth, wind, water, fire, ice, and then we got femininity, you know what I'm saying? And don't underestimate that feminine ferocity, because
CALLER 1
that will engulf you in flames.
HOST
And so it kind of goes back to my point. This is tailor made for this discussion, is that you want to have some of that software downloaded. You want to be able to tap in when you need to, you know what I'm saying? Because, look, if you don't give, if you.
I'll tell you one thing right now about women, and this sounds like an issue that your father might have had with your mom. Once you give up mental real estate with women, you never get it back, ever.
CALLER 1
That's how it works.
HOST
Once, once a woman conquers mental real estate, you never get those, those centimeters and those millimeters and those inches back. Some, some of you are down miles. Some of she has some women come in and outstretch miles of real estate on your ass, and you ain't going
CALLER 1
to come back from that.
HOST
You know what I mean? They talk about how some relationships become damaged beyond repair. That's a real thing. And that's usually when the, when you're playing Monopoly, metaphorically, and the woman's got all the land deeds and you got nothing left.
Now what?
CALLER 1
Now what, what you gonna do now? She's got it all.
HOST
She's got all your mental territory, you know what I'm saying?
CALLER 2
Yeah, bro, I hear that. I hear that. Like, the last probably point I've got to do with exactly that topic was to do with like, the sort of like archetypes. And I don't know if you.
I think you've touched on it before, how men can just create these like, fantasies in their mind where they're just coping, but they've created and, and this.
CALLER 1
They're.
CALLER 2
They're. What's the word? Escaping. That's the word.
They're escaping in a fantasy, coping like, you know, not just watching porn, but being a middle aged man with a corporate job working that, you know, literally that square life 9 to 5. And it's probably because these pools of energies across, you know, grandfather to father, then watching his son not want to do that when he's come from Africa to the uk, so maybe even his energy levels were someone that should not be in the corporate environment. And I've grown up in the west my whole life, but I'm seeking to off that western corporate slave mindset. Not.
I can understand the mindset of the man being a slave. The, the masculine mentality and having to put in that graft and regardless of emotions because that's not your progressive. Like these are all things that hitting rock bottom taught me. So the last question I just wanted to ask is, do you think cope and fantasy is just part of your process in going through the file?
HOST
Dude, absolutely. I mean, get all the crutches and cops you can possibly load up on 100. I mean, it's really the only way to limp through life, dude. The, the thing is, truth itself is very bleak if you really look at the truth of any situation.
It's very bleak, it's very dreary and it's not really worth paying any mind to because it's. This is why I was saying the blue pill can actually overpower the red pill in many ways because you have to, you have to snort that shit, you know what I mean? You have to huff that shit like paint canisters. Because if you.
The truth is not even something you can attack directly anyway, you know what I'm saying? And I'll give you a good example of this. In relationships. I know a lot of men who like to snoop, they like to have the fucking passwords to their girl's phone.
They feel like they have to micromanage and fucking monitor and be a fucking warden and basically fucking deputize all of her moves and fucking hover over her. They're trying to always catch her in something that is the absolute gayest way to seek truth. And that is also one of the best ways to prevent yourself from ever getting the real story. Because here's the thing.
If a woman senses that you're that type of guy, that's too overbearing and imperious. If you're too imperious with a woman and you try to control her too much, the minute she finds a moment in time to snap that ball and chain off of her ankles, and take those anklets off. She's gonna fucking do shady shit behind your back. And so the best way to get truth is always to lean back and do nothing.
And the truth is just gonna come to you.
CALLER 1
That's.
HOST
That's like the strongest mindset you can have in a relationship with a woman. It doesn't matter what she's doing. You don't have to ever worry about what a woman's doing behind your back. Because if you just kick back and focus on what you're supposed to do,
CALLER 1
it's all gonna come to light in the end anyway. It might take years, it might take
HOST
two and a half, three fucking years. Might not be on your fucking timeline. But I promise you there's never been a lie told in history that has not been uncovered at some point in time.
CALLER 1
The truth, always fudgeing, finds a way
HOST
to creep up to the fucking surface. It's volcanic in nature. You know what I'm saying? Vesuvius can sleep for 12 years, but when that motherfucker is ready to rumble, you better get the fuck out the way.
And that's how truth works. And it 100% authenticates my whole point on lateral. Everything in life is lateral. The more I.
The more I go through life every day, the more I see how everything is lateral. You're just going to get the truth by completing your own journey. And you know what's funny? By the time you even get the truth, it ain't even going to matter anymore because the journey is already going to be complete.
You know what I'm saying?
CALLER 1
I've had a lot of.
HOST
Of. I'm a naturally Sherlock Holmes type of guy. I love to break down psychology. Love it.
Sport for me, right? It's, it's like my form of poaching and. But I'm not a snooper. I don't go out of my way to investigate things because everything I've ever wanted to know in my life has come to me by me kicking my feet up on the couch, feet up on the table, doing absolutely nothing.
You know what I'm saying?
CALLER 1
It's that whole quote.
HOST
You give someone, if you hang someone, you look like the executioner, right? But if you give someone enough rope, you can usually let them hang themselves. And that's sort of the essence of, of how truth actually works. You just give someone enough rope and eventually they're going to slip up and it's all going to come out anyway.
You never have to snoop. It's, it's, it's really, really, really beta Number one. And number two, you don't. You would be very surprised at how far away you actually push the truth, you know what I mean?
Because women are talkers. This is what men don't understand. Women love to talk. And so if a woman doesn't have any inclination whatsoever that you're trying to pry and you're always asking your probing questions, trying to fucking figure out what
CALLER 1
she's doing, she's going to tighten up
HOST
on you and she's going to start unleashing that psychological warfare. And what did I say before on a prior spaces years ago? I said the last thing you ever want to do is awaken the beast in a woman. You want to keep that motherfucker dormant because women do have the Kraken inside them.
And if you awaken the Kraken in a woman, she will literally psychologically go into panic mode and hide everything from you. You'll never get the truth. But if you're a cool motherfucker and you just roll with the punches, even if you are suspicious of shady going down and you fall back and you lay in the cut, let her talk. Let her talk.
There will be a Freudian slip, there will be a minor moment in time, there'll be a schism, will be a social glitch where you get everything that you wanted to know. That's multi million dollar advice I just gave you by the way, because it's, it's multi applicable. It's not even just applicable with women. It's applicable in any scenario on earth.
CALLER 2
Yeah, brother, I mean you're on fire right now.
HOST
Even fucking serial killers, dog serial killers out themselves eventually. They can't help it. There's who get away for 30 years and they, they start to get cute and they start sending detectives cryptic hieroglyphic letters for them to solve. Like this is what.
This goes back to my point, brother, that karma is not a, is not a mysterious ledger kept by the universe to punish you. Karma is your unconscious desire to punish yourself. We all know when we're doing things that are wrong. It doesn't matter if nobody else knows, you know.
CALLER 1
And because you know that you fucked
HOST
up, your unconscious mind will find a thousand ways to punish you for it. You will punish yourself. You never get away with anything in life.
CALLER 1
You're gonna punish yourself for it one way or another. You're gonna fucking destroy your life over
HOST
the things that are hidden that you thought you got away with.
CALLER 1
Bang for your brother.
CALLER 2
I mean, when you said about the Kraken in, in the woman and how early at this beginning of spaces, like button heads in relationships, like having such love for my mother and the drive of taking, like what you talked about, the rope. I know that all the experiences I'm gonna go through are. I'm the sculptor and the clay. So what is it about butting heads with the people you love most, I.
E. A mother and her son that drives the fire, the flame?
HOST
Like, dude, it's the molting process. It's the molting process. It's. It's animalistic in nature.
And that's why it's so hard for the rational mind to comprehend some of these concepts that I drop on you. Because when you, when you, when you take away the civility of life and you look at the animal nature of things, the animal nature is separation. That's how organisms grow. That's how organisms thrive, right?
It's through hunting on your own, learning how to fly. There's a reason why birds get clipped from the nest early. They got to learn how to fly on their own. If you, if you span across the entire thyla and animal kingdom, this is what's happening, you know what I'm saying?
And it doesn't, And I'm, and I'm talking about this separation is for you to evolve and become who you're supposed to be, and then you unite again. I'm not talking about. This is not a lifetime thing. You have to reunite with your family,
CALLER 1
with your loved ones, but you have
HOST
to reunite with them when you don't have any. There's no detrius left of their programming, you know what I'm saying? When. It's when you have completely programmed your own mind for yourself and you're uncensored, unfiltered now, and you have confidence because you've learned how to stand on your own two feet, then you can reunite.
And even though you won't see eye to eye, you can still stand on that pillar. You know what I'm saying? I got a great relationship with my family now, but I am one tough son of a bitch because I took that leap very early in life. And I embarked on a 20 year, basically sojourn through the wild and the wilderness on my own and learned how to survive and function completely from my own spirit and my own will.
And I removed all the software and I deleted all the faulty programming that I had. And the only thing that's left is just my nature guiding me. That's it.
CALLER 1
But about that whole, about that whole
HOST
awakening, the kraken and women thing, when A woman feels unsafe in a relationship. She feels unsafe or in any kind of jeopardy or danger, whether it's you providing for her or whether you, you know, are. Are being persecutive towards her. The.
CALLER 1
When. Once that animal awakens in her, she
HOST
will scorch everything to the ground. She will burn you.
CALLER 1
She will burn herself.
HOST
Women have no mercy. Women will completely destroy themselves in the process, as long as they can bathe everything in flames. And that's why you don't want to awaken the Kraken in a woman, Because they'll burn everything. And it's okay to do that when it's just YouTube, but when you have kids involved and you have a whole family structure behind it, it becomes.
It's the Samson option. It's. It's a. It's nuclear war.
Everyone's gonna die. You know what I'm saying?
CALLER 1
So don't snoop. Don't snoop.
HOST
Ever fall back.
CALLER 2
You're doing God's work.
CALLER 5
Thanks.
HOST
Appreciate it, man. Yo, Mr. Monroe. Mr.
Monroe. Final call. Yo, michael.
CALLER 3
Yo. I just wanted to ask you how you can, like, properly fail in order to reach, like, new levels. Like, like just how you let yourself. Let yourself fail and be vulnerable.
HOST
I mean, dude, it's. This is like my whole ethos is like every huge winner in life up their entire way up the, the chain to success. I mean, that's just how it works. Like, you, You.
You make thousands and thousands of mistakes along the way. Have you noticed something? This is like, this is an adjunct to what you just asked me. Have you noticed that people talk about the importance of reputation?
And obviously reputation is important, but the paradox to it is, have you noticed that every standout success in their industry pretty much has a stained reputation on some level with everybody else in the industry? Like, you literally can't name me, anyone in their industry who doesn't somewhat have a shitty reputation because the, the sheer amount of volume and amount of shots that you got to take up the ladder to get there, you're gonna up a lot. You know what I'm saying? And the ones who have the stones and the cojones to up a lot are the ones who make it in the end.
But then again, there's a lot of bloodshed and collateral damage along the way. So it's. It's one of those things where you can't be afraid to make mistakes, especially if you're in a leadership position.
CALLER 3
Yeah, and that's why, like, I'm a big believer in, like, sacrificing to the level you Wish to achieve and like, kind of going in the opposite polarity of what you're trying to achieve in order. Let's say, like, if you wanted to obtain strength, you have to be comfortable with weakness. So I'm just curious, like, is vulnerability really that key to strength or is it more complicated to that?
HOST
Dude, vulnerability is everything. You know, it goes back to what I've told you about wearing your heart on your sleeve, man. I mean, vulnerability is everything because if you're truly pursuing what you desire in life, it's always gonna hurt you when you don't get it. And so there's always vulnerability there.
That's why I don't believe in. I don't believe in hiding anything. I believe in. In showing everyone who the you are off the bat.
It's a battle of attrition, you know what I'm saying? I don't cater to anybody on my. On my feed whatsoever. I.
I don't. I don't give a if anyone disagrees with me or doesn't disagree with me. It's my. This is my live journal, you know what I'm saying?
I'm talking to myself basically. Like these iterations that I do when I come on these spaces. I'm helping me because I'm articulating my philosophy and I'm crystallizing my belief systems. So I don't really give a if anyone disagrees with me or if I lose, followers gain.
I don't really give a. You know what I'm saying? I'm here to produce art, and I do believe my art will stand the test of time.
CALLER 3
But spoke before, like, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but you spoke before on like, kind of like trying to like, get rid of all like the brainwashing and like, programming that you're like, hatching your childhood and stuff. So I'm just like, curious, like, how would you go about that? Like, just removing everything, like, it's.
HOST
It goes back, stuff like that. It goes back to smashing the chains tied to your parents, bro. It's. It's.
It's literally the first step. I mean, everything in my life made sense to me only when I took that first step and I had to figure it out on my own and I had to uncensor myself. And once I did that, I started to really get into a deep groove. By the way, that's a good question, because I did want to say I had a tweet yesterday that I think deserves expansion.
I deleted it, but I basically said,
CALLER 1
we all get into a groove and
HOST
find a lifestyle that we know how to live that kind of works very well for us at a pretty early age. And what happens is, is people love to start with things that aren't broken. And I just went through this myself when I was lifting and I was Olympic lifting and that was my only goal. And I was doing two a days in the gym and I was pushing my body to maximum intensity and I was snatching 300 every day.
And I was a machine. I was, I was a total machine. I wasn't even human anymore. I sort of transcended the human body and I was very machine, like, in the sense that I was in such good shape that you could wake me up, Surprise me with £300 on a bar at any given time of the day, and I could lift it.
That's how fucking polished I was. But during that undertaking, what I noticed is, is that everything was lateral. When I was simply focused on pushing my body and lifting the way I was. It had nothing to do with the vanity metrics or the strength itself.
It's that when I was doing that, everything else in my life was clicking seamlessly. I would make tons of money. Deal flow was not a problem. Women were not a problem.
CALLER 1
As long as I was focused on
HOST
the lifting, it was just insane. I would always have money. I would always. I would be.
I would have zero deprivation in any area of my life. And recently, within the last year, I have been in sort of a mental rut.
CALLER 1
Very odd, very, very subtle.
HOST
My resiliency hasn't necessarily been what I'm used to in the last year. And the only thing that I've curtailed is I have kind of scaled back on my lifting. I haven't done it with as much ferocity or intensity. And I haven't really enjoyed the challenge of lifting huge weight anymore.
And it's completely related because I had a model that worked perfectly. Whenever I push my body and I exert myself physically to its maximum capability, everything in my life clicks perfectly.
CALLER 1
I don't, I don't.
HOST
It's effortless. I don't have to worry about anything. I don't have to worry about money. I unconsciously just know the right moves to make.
And, and my whole point is, is that like, we all are usually right the very first fucking time. And then we start making revisions and we start making addendums and trying to improve and fix and we totally destroy our life.
CALLER 1
Even.
HOST
Even with diet, bro. It's fascinating. I had it right the first time. I.
I was. I knew about carnivore like 15 or 16 years ago at this point, I was on the carnivore diet. And you see the, you see these new trailblazers popping up in the space. This guy, Thor Torrance, who I happen to really like, he's.
He's pushing this low vitamin A stuff on Twitter, which literally is basically Carnivore with a couple modifications, right? It's basically a carnivore base. And then he's got some modifications and to kind of optimize it. And it's like for me, I went off the rails.
I was functioning at my apex and optimally on a carnivore diet. High fat, low carb, tons of meat for 20 fucking years. Objectively crushing it in my field, objectively crushing it in every area of my life. Lifting twice a day as a natural athlete, eating Carnivore.
I got fucking cute. I got fancy. I started adding in raw cheese, raw dairy, potatoes, all sorts of crazy ass. Saw a drastic change in my overall performance.
And now I'm going back to just Carnivore had it right the first time. Nothing was broken. And that's what, that's. I was telling the first guy this.
I was like, dude, the hardest thing to do is maintain the success that you have because you get bored and you get existential dread and you want to start tinkering with that ain't broken. Like, I always had it right. My intuition was spot the on from day one.
CALLER 3
That aligned with me when you said that, like when you were like lifting the most weight and everything was going like in that facet, which like, obviously emotionally that was like what was like enlighten you the most. Like that was something that meant the most to you. But you said something that really aligned with me in the fact that when that was going best in your life, everything else was going best. Like me, I'm a baseball player.
And when training stuff for that goes best, everything else, like a ton of other stuff pops into my life. Like I said, suddenly have the capacity to take like a ton of more stuff. But I always let people kind of say, oh, you have to focus on one thing. But like when my energy is high, I can tolerate like a ton of stuff.
So like, what's your.
HOST
Well, that's what I'm saying, dude. That's what I'm saying is like you have the only trick in life, the only life hack is to just be really good at one thing. And it doesn't, it doesn't have to be money. If you, if you are devoted and Obsessed with just one thing in your life.
Like you need to be good at one thing and then everything constellates from that. And like, people don't understand this because it's kind of abstract, but I know for a fact lifting is my biggest lever. When I'm lifting and I'm in peak physical condition, that's my biggest lever. That's my money maker.
All my money, all my gambling wins, all my runs, all my biggest fucking, fucking windfalls, all come when I'm in that, that peak state of mind, you know what I'm saying? And it all stems from the fucking lifting. That's always been my base, that's been my foundation. That's just my nature.
Though I'm an athlete by nature. Any, any athletic endeavor I've ever done, I've excelled at. I blew everyone out of the water on any, anything I ever did. Played bas killed everybody.
Baseball annihilated you, lift you, outlift you, sprinting against you, I'll outrun you. I'm just a athlete. And so if I don't honor that nature, I start to become a decrepit human being. Things start to atrophy in my life very quickly, and thank God I had the awareness to realize that I was straying.
I was actually resisting my nature, you know what I'm saying? I was doing the opposite of the philosophy that I espoused to you guys and I was ignoring my nature and I was cutting back on the lifting. And sure enough, everything was falling apart.
CALLER 1
Everything was falling apart, bro.
CALLER 3
It's almost like the maximal lifting was not the only thing that was maximum about. It wasn't just the load, but it like, it stimulated every part of your.
CALLER 1
Every part of my being.
CALLER 3
Work maximally so everything in your life would work maximum. Like, because like, I'm a big believer in like the way you do anything is the way you do everything. So like the maximal lifting was carrying over to every aspect of your life, not just physically, mentally, emotionally, psychologically.
HOST
Exactly. And the, and the real benefit, bro, is that it wore me out. I was so fatigued and so exhausted that I really, my mind really didn't have the bandwidth to focus on anything unimportant. That's the beauty of strength training, is it silences these critical voices in your head and it leaves you by process of reduction, it leaves you with just the essence of everything.
So it's like the next move for me was just crystal fucking clear at all times because I'm mentally worn out. So now I'm on autopilot. And I got to let the reptile brain just do all the fucking directing and driving for me. Sure enough, that shit works out pretty fucking well.
CALLER 3
Well, also, you're wearing yourself out mentally and like physically, and you're, you're going to reach new levels you can never imagined because of the adaptations that's going on. But also, like right now, I'm in, I'm training three times a day, two times a day, and I'm in the best place in my entire, like physically, like I'm destroying myself every couple hours in the gym, but it's transferred over to every aspect of my life.
HOST
So that's beautiful, brother. Let me tell you too, the paradox of this is that I think people have this concept very twisted if you focus on fun like lifting. For me, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the challenge of lifting.
I didn't really dread it at the time. When I was chasing those big numbers, I never had to worry about the importance, important responsibilities in my life. The fun would just kind of take care of it by proxy. And that was always interesting to me is everyone would always say, you gotta work hard to play hard.
It's the opposite. You play hard and then you can take care of your responsibilities from the fruits of your labor that you earn from playing hard. Because whenever I'm having fun and I'm adventurous and I'm chasing things that I genuinely enjoy, everything else just falls into place automatically. Like, the fun has always carried my responsibilities.
But when I reverse the concept and I and I focus on taking care of the responsibilities first and act like a slave and worry about bills and worry about all this nonsense, it totally destroys and vitiates the fun component. And I think that's as backwards because if I look at anyone who's actually high functioning, who's done it, who's, who's. Who's made a killing in anything. They were goofing around and fucking around with things in the lab.
And they finally came. They just chanced upon an experiment that was the winning formula. And it was a mistake. You know what I'm saying, dude?
There's so many stories of this. I saw a story on Twitter the other day about a guy who sat down at a coffee shop with a longtime friend of his, and this guy was worth like $500 million. And his buddy asked him at the table, he was like, so what was, what was the secret? Like, what did you, what did you do to come across all this money?
And he goes, you know, Fred, it boiled down to this. It all really just came down to one trade for me. He's like, I saw this software company in the 90s, and I just went all in on it and I tucked it away. Sure enough, he's like, 10 years later, I checked, and it was fucking worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
And you know what that company was? It was Intel. This guy was like one of the first fucking investors in Intel. And yet again, I read that and I chuckled to myself and I was like, there you go again.
It validated, Validated my theory that every
CALLER 1
mega wealthy giant fucking winner was fucking
HOST
around, goofing off, malingering, being a jokester, and they fucking accidentally sprung themselves into wealth in one trade. That guy made generational wealth in one fucking trade. This is how life works for men. All the big levers.
It's usually a couple phone calls, a couple hellos that change your life. It's not the grind. It's never the grind. There's like almost zero that gets accomplished working hard.
It's always in the chance phone call in the serendipitous fucking hello that just nets you everything. It's unbelievable how it works.
CALLER 3
It's really beautiful how, like, the most successful people in anything are the artists. And they're really like, free thinking and creative and like, the people, like, the people like, and who, like, sit at their desks and Twitter all day, like, who are, like, trying to find the way, they can never just find it because they're too rigid. Their approach is too rigid. It always breaks.
HOST
Yeah, right before.
CALLER 3
That's an achieve anything.
HOST
Another fucking example of mistaking your way into riches. Airbnb. You guys all know the Airbnb story, right? They were, they were.
They had a startup company that was nothing to do with Airbnb, and they got into a financial pinch and they couldn't pay the lease on their office, and they had to sublease the office out to another entity just to survive the startup. Well, guess what? When they subleased the unit out, that became the business model of subleasing units out. So that Airbnb was a completely different concept.
They shifted when they realized, oh, we're earning income from subletting it out. So Airbnb was a fucking mistake. It was never intended to be that way. It was because they were in the troughs and in the pits of absolute hell and despair trying to save their startup that they chanced upon the concept.
CALLER 1
And also real.
CALLER 3
It's beautiful how also in that situation, they weren't specifically thinking about, oh, I'm gonna make all this money through this exact way. Like, they weren't. Yeah. Like, the goal was obviously to stay, like, alive and to stay on their feet, but the goal wasn't to do that by specifically Airbnb and leasing out, like, homes and stuff.
It was just.